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[Deleted member 17706]

Thank you.

Damn, ignorance like that is aggravating. At least I have the peace of mind that, if mr.hands keeps posting like that, he won't be around here much longer.

 

[Version 3.0]

On console, because it was designed that way. Everyone with that console and game are experiencing the exact same thing. There is no way to tweak it out. You don't have to pull out your hair finding out what's wrong with your system.

On PC, it's your fault, and your system or settings may really suck.

A PC game I just had to throw my hands in the air with was NFS: Hot Pursuit. No matter what I do I can't make it look smooth. No forced AA (bring your own AA with this game, no natural settings), 720p, everything lowest settings, and so on. It still looks a bit too choppy for a racing game, while effects like snow dust rolling down a hill look smooth and 60fps.

That's weird. That game is one of the ones that just worked perfectly, all by itself, for me. Sorry to hear this. :-(

 

[Kalnos]

mr.hands has his troll face on.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Then the issue becomes cost when you need to buy a whole other gaming rig. What's a compelling reason to spend that kind of money if you already have a console?

To enjoy the substantial advantages of gaming on a PC? Nobody argues with the proposition that PC gaming is inherently superior on a number of levels, notably price, performance, visuals, customisation, backwards-compatibility etc, so the question looked at objectively and free of emotion should actually be "what's the compelling reason to spend any money on a console if you are buying a dedicated gaming device?"

Why would you put the Xbox in the brasco

Spoiler

I have no idea what that is :/

in the first place? There are plenty of legitimate reasons to have your multi-function PC in another room.

The brasco = the shitter.

My point is that my PC is primarily a gaming machine which does a bunch of other cool stuff as well, so I put it where I play games. If your buddy put his Xbox in the crapper and then moaned that it was too far from his TV you'd think he was a bit of an idiot, yeah?

Aren't you the guy who said Shogun 2 will be ported to console?

lol. Yes. Yes he is.

 

[THE Caffeinated]

Games.

I mainly play Action/JRPGs/Sport Games and have negative interest in RTS/FPS.
I do have a fairly good laptop though and if it so turns out that the game I want to play happens to have a PC port and I can't find the console version, i'll end up playing through the PC version. Mass Effect 1/2 for example.

 

[Gravijah]

To enjoy the substantial advantages of gaming on a PC? Nobody argues with the proposition that PC gaming is inherently superior on a number of levels, notably price, performance, visuals, customisation, backwards-compatibility etc, so the question looked at objectively and free of emotion should actually be "what's the compelling reason to spend any money on a console if you are buying a dedicated gaming device?"

Really, the only reason I spend money on any console is for the games. I spent 250 dollars on my 3DS so that I can play Animal Crossing 3DS in the future.

 

[abstract alien]

Thank you.

Damn, ignorance like that is aggravating. At least I have the peace of mind that, if mr.hands keeps posting like that, he won't be around here much longer.

Well, I don't like PC gaming much at all, but I'm not so sure he can be banned for such a thing. It is ignorance, not really trolling. He is also being honest(according to him anyway), so its his opinion more than anything. An ignorantly filled opinion, but an opinion none the less.

 

[luka]

 

[Seanspeed]

I went through the trouble. Got a 50' HDMI cable for about $60 and plugged it into my receiver. I did have to mess around with some drivers but it eventually worked. It's worth it for the couch internet access alone.

Add the cost for a wireless keyboard and mouse, and the cost and effort involved isn't worth it for me. If internet access mattered that much to me from my couch, I'd buy a little netbook.

Besides, NOTHING changes the big problem of having to spend $500/600 at least to build a decent gaming rig.

My personal situation with PC gaming is a large combination of factors. You can fix a couple, but until all of them are solved, its not gonna be a realistic solution for me.

I appreciate y'alls efforts, but I'm telling you, PC gaming just isn't ideal for my and my situation. I want to play some of these PC games, dont get me wrong. I have very little against PC gaming from a 'gaming perspective', but I just dont have the means to do it.

 

[NullPointer]

Well it's no longer bliss when you awaken to a new reality. I mean.... Call of Duty was gaming bliss for me until Half Life.

Red Dead Redemption did that for me, and only managed to reinforce my choices for gaming bliss.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

That's weird. That game is one of the ones that just worked perfectly, all by itself, for me. Sorry to hear this. :-(

It's not as bad as I make it sound. It runs good enough to play, just that the inconsistent framerate and aliasing got to me.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Really, the only reason I spend money on any console is for the games. I spent 250 dollars on my 3DS so that I can play Animal Crossing 3DS in the future.

Ah now here my petard has indeed hoisted me. I really was only talking about the 360 and PS3 where most of the content is multiplatform and has substantially better PC versions.

Well, I don't like PC gaming much at all, but I'm not so sure he can be banned for such a thing. It is ignorance, not really trolling. He is also being honest(according to him anyway), so its his opinion more than anything. An ignorantly filled opinion, but an opinion none the less.

No he shouldn't be banned, we should do our best to help the poor unfortunate because I actually think that he genuinely holds the views he's expressing in this and similar threads.

 

[elrechazado]

For all the folks who say they have their PC connected to their main TV... how big is your house? I have my dedicated office on the second floor of my house and there is no way I could even connect my computers anywhere close to the TV.

My house isn't too big. My pc is connected by a 20 foot dvi > hdmi cord to my 52 inch lcd. Rocks very hard.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Well, I don't like PC gaming much at all, but I'm not so sure he can be banned for such a thing. It is ignorance, not really trolling. He is also being honest(according to him anyway), so its his opinion more than anything. An ignorantly filled opinion, but an opinion none the less.

A lot of people in this thread seem to be mistaking "opinion" with "stating whatever the hell pops in your head as if it is fact." Factually incorrect statements are not opinions.

 

[Freshmaker]

In general, I find that I don't really like memorizing 20 keys plus movement controls to operate a game. Consoles tend to force actual thought into user interface design. Yeah, I know I'm overstating the case a bit but after trying Mount & Blade and The Witcher I do find there are way too many specialized key mappings. Plus EE Witcher was a slide show. Nothing like having to buy a 4670 just to play a $10 game...

 

[Red]

to me.. PC's are obsolete bullshit.
This has to do with microsoft windows, and being big and clunky.

My laptop is as fast as many pc's, it's 10 times smaller, it's more quiet, it's more energy efficient and so on. And because of the OS it's even faster (booting, starting programs, deleting shit, etc). I have a big monitor, and a keyboard/mouse, should I choose to work in my office.

PC's are ancient, clunky technology to me. They make a lot of noise, and aside from some games, are much slower than my old 2006 laptop.

Why in the world would i invest in such a thing, to play certain games?
I don't like WoW and strategy, so for me PC is not even a valid recent platform; it doesn't get any halo/uncharted/gears/vanquish/zelda. Only some high res multi plat games.

I have a recent laptop, a ps3/360, a big ass tv, an iPad, a smartphone.
I believe PC's are a big waste of time. Even though my laptop is capable of playing recent PC games at decent settings, I will never go into that trouble.

Gaming to me is big screen, dolby surround in the back, sitting on the couch. and most importantly: good games.
It don't get more honest than this

Ahahaha what

No he shouldn't be banned, we should do our best to help the poor unfortunate because I actually think that he genuinely holds the views he's expressing in this and similar threads.

I don't recognize his name, but man his posts must be hilarious. I'm leaning on the side of troll, because there's no way a person could rationally believe what he's saying.

 

[IchigoSharingan]

UNGA BUNGA PC GAMING BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh me no understand. Graphics integrated into hard drive!? Huh! Too complex. Pay even MORE money over time, no need use brain. Me sit. Comfy couch design for me and this thing call experience.


The fuck is with the utter ignorance in this thread!?!? Half of the ignorance can be wiped out with a god damn google search.

 

[Trent Strong]

Bioshock, Silent Hill: Homecoming, Torchlight, Divinity II: these games will not run on my computer. I either get a "fatal error" notice, or I press play and nothing happens. Probably five or six other games that I own wouldn't run until I did a bunch of time consuming research on the internet to find out what was wrong with them and fix them. Probably a dozen more games I have run, but run very poorly. Why would I want to deal that all that bullshit? I'm done with PC gaming unless I can get the game incredibly cheap on a steam sale. With consoles, I put the disk in and the game runs. Period.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

What' the compelling reason to buy a 360 or PS3 when you already have a Wii? You can already play video games!

I'm not asking why people don't switch to PS3/X360 when you already have a Wii. The obvious answer to that though would be exclusive games.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

In general, I find that I don't really like memorizing 20 keys plus movement controls to operate a game.Consoles tend to force actual user interface design.YeahI know I'm overstating the case a bit but after trying Mount & Blade and The Witcher I do find there are way too many specialized key mappings. Plus EE Witcher was a slide show. Nothing like having to buy a 4670 just to play a $10 game...

Sigh.

Outside of WSAD and the mouse buttons, what did you need to know for The Witcher? Sure there were hotkeys to just about every menu screen, hotkeys to select each stance, each weapon, items, and each sign, but you didn't need to use those. Hitting space bar and clicking on the appropriate icon worked just fine.

Mount & Blade has a pretty simplistic control scheme, too. What do you need beyond WSAD, mouse, and the space bar, F and, TAB keys?

Also, what does the cost of a game have to do with its hardware requirements? You can find used PS3 and 360 games in the bargain bin for like $5. You still need the hardware to play them.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

Plus EE Witcher was a slide show. Nothing like having to buy a 4670 just to play a $10 game...

Holy shit, PC games need video cards? Why didn't someone tell me sooner!?

*burns desktop*

 

[NIN90]

In general, I find that I don't really like memorizing 20 keys plus movement controls to operate a game.Consoles tend to force actual user interface design.YeahI know I'm overstating the case a bit but after trying Mount & Blade and The Witcher I do find there are way too many specialized key mappings. Plus EE Witcher was a slide show. Nothing like having to buy a 4670 just to play a $10 game...

Yeah I like when console games turn the face buttons into AWESOME buttons.

Sigh.

Outside of WSAD and the mouse buttons, what did you need to know for The Witcher? Sure there were hotkeys to just about every menu screen, hotkeys to select each stance, each weapon, items, and each sign, but you didn't need to use those. Hitting space bar and clicking on the appropriate icon worked just fine.

Mount & Blade has a pretty simplistic control scheme, too. What do you need beyond WSAD, mouse, and the space bar, F and, TAB keys?

But the buttons were not labeled AWESOME buttons. How in the world am I supposed to remember that the "I" key opens the window thingy where I can euqip my shit?

 

[luka]

UNGA BUNGA PC GAMING BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh me no understand. Graphics integrated into hard drive!? Huh! Too complex. Pay even MORE money over time, no need use brain. Me sit. Comfy couch design for me and this thing call experience.


The fuck is with the utter ignorance in this thread!?!? Half of the ignorance can be wiped out with a god damn google search.

You remind me of myself a few years ago. I can't take it seriously anymore and prefer to just bask in the ridiculousness of these threads. Makes for an entertaining read at work.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I'm not asking why people don't switch to PS3/X360 when you already have a Wii.

It's the same type of question. Why would you want any gaming console if you already have a perfectly good one that lets you engage in the act of playing video games? Whatever your answer is to that question also applies to your question about why anyone would buy a PC.

 

[Trent Strong]

UNGA BUNGA PC GAMING BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh me no understand. Graphics integrated into hard drive!? Huh! Too complex. Pay even MORE money over time, no need use brain. Me sit. Comfy couch design for me and this thing call experience.


The fuck is with the utter ignorance in this thread!?!? Half of the ignorance can be wiped out with a god damn google search.

I like playing video games more than I like doing google searches. Consoles let me play games without doing google searches. How the does that make me "ignorant"?

 

[Narag]

Bioshock, Silent Hill: Homecoming, Torchlight, Divinity II: these games will not run on my computer. I either get a "fatal error" notice, or I press play and nothing happens. Probably five or six other games that I own wouldn't run until I did a bunch of time consuming research on the internet to find out what was wrong with them and fix them. Probably a dozen more games I have run, but run very poorly. Why would I want to deal that all that bullshit? I'm done with PC gaming unless I can get the game incredibly cheap on a steam sale. With consoles, I put the disk in and the game runs. Period.

What was wrong with them?

 

[abstract alien]

A lot of people in this thread seem to be mistaking "opinion" with "stating whatever the hell pops in your head as if it is fact." Factually incorrect statements are not opinions.

...that is why I said it is an ignorantly filled opinion. Regardless of a person being right or wrong, their opinions are always just that...their opinions. We all hold ignorances toward something, and at times it's things we thought we actually knew a bit about. He just hasn't been properly educated on what is possible with a PC in today's world.

Its still his opinion, because he is drawing from his personal experiences to state what he thinks about it and how it in turn makes him feel.

 

[mr.hands]

Don't know about Shogun2, but I'm the guy who said Red Alert, Deus Ex, Crysis, etc would be ported to consoles ;-)
('oh noes, teh consolified, the cake is a lies oh noes!!')

I am really serious when I say PC's are obsolete (especially to me).
Aside from the very few games that are 'must-own', PC's lose to laptops or iMacs in everything else. People don't need to sit behind a desk to post on Facebook, or to watch youtube.

To do real work (writing thesis, doing programming, 'work'), yes.
But even for real work, you don't need that much power. Even HD video editing can be done on a cellphone these days.
The sum of all this, is why people don't invest in big PC's anymore.

You can look up the numbers: less and less pc's sold every year.

The PC gaming market is an even smaller piece of the already declining PC pie.

Consumer PC's nowadays are nothing more than a hobby. No amount of .gif in the world can ever change that.


edit: you can also see this in the GPU market 'decline'; a good friend got a new pc around the end of 2006, this was with a intel dual core, and a geforce 8800.
This is almost 5 years ago now
Last week I played Crysis2 and Portal 2 on his ancient rig; they ran silky smooth with medium/high settings. (1280*960 i think).

In 2004, none of you PC 'fans' would have believed if I told you that pc's bought in 2006 would still play all pc games on medium/high... in 2011.

There has been a big shift in game development for pc's.
Now tell me again who is ignorant

 

[IchigoSharingan]

Bioshock, Silent Hill: Homecoming, Torchlight, Divinity II: these games will not run on my computer. I either get a "fatal error" notice, or I press play and nothing happens. Probably five or six other games that I own wouldn't run until I did a bunch of time consuming research on the internet to find out what was wrong with them and fix them. Probably a dozen more games I have run, but run very poorly. Why would I want to deal that all that bullshit? I'm done with PC gaming unless I can get the game incredibly cheap on a steam sale. With consoles, I put the disk in and the game runs. Period.

PC specs plz.

 

[dacuk]

1- No Nintendo Games
2- Not all games suppor...er, lemme rephrase it, can be played with just a gamepad. The only thing I wanna play with a keyboard is called Microsoft Office
3- No time for driver downloadin', game installin', settings tinkerin', and update managin'; I just want to pop the disk, and play in a minute or less.
4- Currently thinking on moving to handhelds exclusively...

 

[jim-jam bongs]

I don't recognize his name, but man his posts must be hilarious. I'm leaning on the side of troll, because there's no way a person could rationally believe what he's saying.

Seriously, I don't recall the context but that thread Ysiadmihi mentioned, where he suggested that Shogun's sales are doomed so the next TW would be a console game, had some amazing moments.

Don't know about Shogun2, but I'm the guy who said Red Alert, Deus Ex, Crysis, etc would be ported to consoles ;-)
('oh noes, teh consolified, the cake is a lies oh noes!!')

I am really serious when I say PC's are obsolete (especially to me).
Aside from the very few games that are 'must-own', PC's lose to laptops or iMacs in everything else. People don't need to sit behind a desk to post on Facebook, or to watch youtube.

To do real work (writing thesis, doing programming, 'work'), yes.
But even for real work, you don't need that much power. Even HD video editing can be done on a cellphone these days.
The sum of all this, is why people don't invest in big PC's anymore.

You can look up the numbers: less and less pc's sold every year.

The PC gaming market is an even smaller piece of the already declining PC pie.

Consumer PC's nowadays are nothing more than a hobby. No amount of .gif in the world can ever change that.

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Almost every sentence of your post contains factually incorrect information.

 

[Ysiadmihi]

I like playing video games more than I like doing google searches. Consoles let me play games without doing google searches. How the does that make me "ignorant"?

Evidently because you think every single PC game needs extensive troubleshooting.

But hey, let's keep up the blanket statements. I don't play Halo because friend codes suck!

 

[elrechazado]

I like playing video games more than I like doing google searches. Consoles let me play games without doing google searches. How the does that make me "ignorant"?

Google searches that take less time than making the posts you've made in this thread to play games you've presumably paid for. Yeah, that's murder dude. I'd rather flush the games down the toilet too than spend 30 seconds to make them work.

 

[Snuggles]

In general, I find that I don't really like memorizing 20 keys plus movement controls to operate a game.

This is something I definitely had to adjust to when I first went PC, but most key-heavy games let you map them however you want, so once you have a system it's no problem. Shift is always sprint, left ctrl is always crouch, j is always journal and so on.

 

[Gravijah]

Don't know about Shogun2, but I'm the guy who said Red Alert, Deus Ex, Crysis, etc would be ported to consoles ;-)
('oh noes, teh consolified, the cake is a lies oh noes!!')

I am really serious when I say PC's are obsolete (especially to me).
Aside from the very few games that are 'must-own', PC's lose to laptops or iMacs in everything else. People don't need to sit behind a desk to post on Facebook, or to watch youtube.

To do real work (writing thesis, doing programming, 'work'), yes.
But even for real work, you don't need that much power. Even HD video editing can be done on a cellphone these days.
The sum of all this, is why people don't invest in big PC's anymore.

You can look up the numbers: less and less pc's sold every year.

The PC gaming market is an even smaller piece of the already declining PC pie.

Consumer PC's nowadays are nothing more than a hobby. No amount of .gif in the world can ever change that.

But laptops and hell, even Macs these days, can play computer games...?

 

[Trent Strong]

PC specs plz.

i5, 6 gigs of ram, GTX 260. Pre-built Dell.

What was wrong with them?

I don't know, and I don't want ot spend my free time trying to figure it out. I'd rather play games.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Don't know about Shogun2, but I'm the guy who said Red Alert, Deus Ex, Crysis, etc would be ported to consoles ;-)
('oh noes, teh consolified, the cake is a lies oh noes!!')

I am really serious when I say PC's are obsolete (especially to me).
Aside from the very few games that are 'must-own', PC's lose to laptops or iMacs in everything else. People don't need to sit behind a desk to post on Facebook, or to watch youtube.

To do real work (writing thesis, doing programming, 'work'), yes.
But even for real work, you don't need that much power. Even HD video editing can be done on a cellphone these days.
The sum of all this, is why people don't invest in big PC's anymore.

You can look up the numbers: less and less pc's sold every year.

The PC gaming market is an even smaller piece of the already declining PC pie.

Consumer PC's nowadays are nothing more than a hobby. No amount of .gif in the world can ever change that.

Holy shit. He's completely retarded.

 

[IchigoSharingan]

You remind me of myself a few years ago. I can't take it seriously anymore and prefer to just bask in the ridiculousness of these threads. Makes for an entertaining read at work.

hehe, am at work too. Some of these issues I can actually help but my god the utter ignorance that keeps some of these guys from actually enjoying the systems they already paid for.

 

[Version 3.0]

UNGA BUNGA PC GAMING BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

grahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh me no understand. Graphics integrated into hard drive!? Huh! Too complex. Pay even MORE money over time, no need use brain. Me sit. Comfy couch design for me and this thing call experience.


The fuck is with the utter ignorance in this thread!?!? Half of the ignorance can be wiped out with a god damn google search.

Stop having fun! You're not having fun unless you believe what I believe! People who have different preferences than me are stupid!

 

[Deleted member 17706]

1- No Nintendo Games
2- Not all games suppor...er, lemme rephrase it, can be played with just a gamepad. The only thing I wanna play with a keyboard is called Microsoft Office
3- No time for driver downloadin', game installin', settings tinkerin', and update managin'; I just want to pop the disk, and play in a minute or less.
4- Currently thinking on moving to handhelds exclusively...

Guess you can't play consoles anymore.

Gotta love the "no time" argument when the person obviously has time to argue about video games on the Internet.

 

[NIN90]

I am really serious when I say consoles are obsolete (especially to me).
Aside from the very few games that are 'must-own', console lose to iPhones or Xperias in everything else. People don't need to sit behind a desk to post on Facebook, or to watch youtube.

To do real work (writing thesis, doing programming, 'work'), yes.
But even for real work, you don't need that much power. Even HD video editing can be done on a cellphone these days.
The sum of all this, is why people don't invest in big consoles anymore..

Hey, look! I can do this too!

 

[highrider]

because i'm perfectly happy with my 360 and ps3. there may come a point where i want to more graphics and performance, but it hasn't happened yet. there are also not many pc exclusives that interest me. i hear pc gamers discussing settings and all the stuff they do, and i dunno, i just want to play games.

 

[water_wendi]

I like playing video games more than I like doing google searches. Consoles let me play games without doing google searches. How the does that make me "ignorant"?

i just wanted to point out its very difficult to take your posts seriously with your avatar. i keep reading them in the Rick Dagless voice and cant tell whether to take them as sarcasm or not.

 

[IchigoSharingan]

i5, 6 gigs of ram, GTX 260. Pre-built Dell.


I don't know, and I don't want ot spend my free time trying to figure it out. I'd rather play games.

Awfully strange that a 260 wouldn't run Bioshock. Sorry to hear that. I thought you were on an AMD config, and that's had a few problems at one point with NVidia centric stuff. And if you never updated drivers, that case would never change.


Consoles let you play games without google searches sure. But you are also forced on firmware and game updates, as well as installs. PC and console have both their fare share of problems in that regard. For the most part, you don't have to 'struggle' to get a game running on PC. Please do not take an example and make it out to be the rule rather than the exception.

 

[NullPointer]

hehe, am at work too. Some of these issues I can actually help but my god the utter ignorance that keeps some of these guys from actually enjoying the systems they already paid for.

They are actually enjoying the systems they already paid for.

You're the one trying to piss in their corn flakes for not sharing your perspective.

Some people also prefer using their iPads instead of their laptops. Shocking, but true.

 

[Cipherr]

Why in the world would i invest in such a thing, to play certain games?
I don't like WoW and strategy

This is what fuels this nonsense. I think most of us PC gamers own consoles, but it is clearly not the same the other way around. So every reasonable person says "Play what you want", but then someone comes along and says something stupid like "I need a $1k rig to play games" Then someone steps in to correct them, but the guy insists they are wrong, and round and round we go.

 

[Zertez]

When did laptops stop being a PC? Must have missed something.

 

[etiolate]

1. Sometimes google search doesn't have the answer. Sometimes its a new problem or an old problem without a resolution reached.
2. I don't have to google search a console game to see it run.

 

[water_wendi]

How many PC Only gamers are in this thread?

 

[Gravijah]

i just wanted to point out its very difficult to take your posts seriously with your avatar. i keep reading them in the Rick Dagless voice and cant tell whether to take them as sarcasm or not.

But Rick Dagless was completely serious.