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Console only gamers, what keeps you from PC Gaming?

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Darkman M said:
I own all those consoles and a good gaming PC shames the hell out of all of them.
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I don't want to speak for him but his comment seems to be about the games that are exclusive to consoles not the "power" of the consoles themselves. I don't know how a PC could "shame" a game.
 
Funtruck said:
i really hope you're kidding
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Not at all half of the shit they put out on HD consoles is sub hd, sub 30fps, i enjoy the consoles for the varied genres of games, but some of the things that's went on this gen opened my eyes.
 
MTMBStudios said:
It's funny because all of those games would play better on PC. But alot of PC exclusives don't work at all on console without heavy modification (and possibly dumbing down).

And take a look at that Wii emulator.
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that's funny because it's completely irrelevant; most of those games are first party exclusives and run amazing on their respective consoles.
 
IchigoSharingan said:
Not even Deus Ex or Half Life then?
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This is one of the problems pc games seem to be stuck in a time loop from 5 years ago, i actually bough a good gaming pc about 2 years ago and crisis was still the game to install to test it out which was funny as it was the same two years before!

Darkman M said:
I own all those consoles and a good gaming PC shames the hell out of all of them.
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In what way, graphics?

The list there demonstrates that variety of games, how goes a good gaming pc help with that?
 
water_wendi said:
That isnt what i said, at all. Thats not even what i was addressing. Its clearly evident that by DA2's near universal panning that console gamers do not prefer recycled content and sloppy, rushed sequels that reused assets over and over. What you are trying to put into my mouth is, however, exactly what Bioware must have thought of console gamers during development.
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odd then that you kept responding to posts making this point, and ignoring them.
 
-Price(Yes, I know all I'd need is $400-$500 for a decent rig, but that's a lot for a college student) Although this may not become an issue come later this summer.
-Laziness/Time

Hopefully this reasons won't be holding me back for much longer.
 
I hate WASD. I just hate the keyboard/mouse setup in general. It's so uncomfortable. I have what you might consider a gaming PC to boot with a Core i7 860, Radeon 5850 and 8GB of RAM.
 
Funtruck said:
that's funny because it's completely irrelevant; most of those games are first party exclusives and run amazing on their respective consoles.
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I love how 30fps at 720p and screen tearing is "amazing". And in the case of the Wii, not even HD. The PC ran New Super Mario Bros Wii better the day it came out on the PC in emulation than it did on the Wii.
 
Darkman M said:
Not at all half of the shit they put out on HD consoles is sub hd, sub 30fps, i enjoy the consoles for the varied genres of games, but some of the things that's went on this gen opened my eyes.
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multiplatform games sure

first party exclusives however usually run at hd resolutions with a nice framerate

plus why are we talking about graphics and image quality? PC gamers man...
 
elrechazao said:
odd then that you kept responding to posts making this point, and ignoring them.
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But.. its not what i said. i said that Bioware stated that the audience of DA2 is on console which is an irrefutable fact. i said nothing about console users being stupid for buying DA2 or anything of that kind. You tried to put words in my mouth.
 
I used to be a console only gamer, and then I started playing Minecraft. A few months later I built a gaming PC, sold my Xbox and PS3 (kept the Wii) and never looked back. Best decision I ever made. I don't know how I lived without playing games like the Civilization series and Crysis, I really don't.

I was scared though, because I thought it would be too difficult and too expensive. The truth is, that the initial price is expensive and the initial effort to built and set up and test a PC is difficult and time-consuming. However, what you get out of the that is worth it, at least for me. While building a PC can be expensive, through Steam Sales and just the fruits of an all downloadable environment, the games are a ton cheaper. I have 100 games or so on Steam and it can't have cost me more then 250 bucks for the lot of them. I also had some difficulties initially with my PC, but when I booted up games like Crysis and Bad Company 2 for the first time I sat in awe and knew it was all worth it. The immense increase in graphical performance, framerate, resolution and control was amazing to me coming from consoles.

I went back to play something on my Xbox a few days later and couldn't do it. The drop off between the two platforms was just too big that I got annoyed and decided it was best to sell off my HD consoles and recoup some money from my PC purchase (as well as buy tons of Steam Games!). I guess I decided to keep my Wii because it is not aspiring to have great graphics and therefore I can enjoy the games on it with almost a retro feel. Plus most of the games Nintendo makes are masterpieces in my opinion and they have by far the best exclusives out of the three players.

I know this is kind of opposite of what the OP said, but I am seeing a lot of similar fears about PC gaming that I had a year or so back and wanted to talk about my experiences. I guess I also want to say that PC gaming is not for everyone, but it was perfect for me!
 
lockload said:
In what way, graphics?

The list there demonstrates that variety of games, how goes a good gaming pc help with that?
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Greater frame rate and mods greatly enhance gameplay and longevity for me. Im not bashing consoles here at all just saying...
 
The price, and the time to make all of them work properly. In every thread of a PC game I've looked at, there are patches, and bugs, and ways to get to them to run properly...and frankly I'm not going to spend money to deal with that. I think Steam sounds great, and I have been tempted. But it's too complicated to figure out exactly what you need to run what properly.
 
MTMBStudios said:
I love how 30fps at 720p and screen tearing is "amazing". And in the case of the Wii, not even HD. The PC ran New Super Mario Bros Wii better the day it came out on the PC in emulation than it did on the Wii.
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get out of here with your graphics whore bullshit. it's all you care about.

those games run PERFECT on their respective consoles, idc if they could have a higher framerate, more anti aliasing and higher res on PC; they aren't on PC.


and p.s: the nsmb wii ran perfect on the wii, 60 fps and all; it just looks better on dolphin with aa and hd resolution
 
beast786 said:
I would add this though. It is funny how console gamers argue like crazy between PS3-360 versions, based on FR, resolution etc. But when compare to PC, all of a sudden it does not matter.
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I think its because the PS3 and 360 are near each other in price range so they are comparable. Just the Windows OS alone though is half the price of the 360. Sure you can get all kinds of added performance in multi system games and judge the performance but it comes at a cost so its never factored in.
 
Nicktals said:
The price, and the time to make all of them work properly. In every thread of a PC game I've looked at, there are patches, and bugs, and ways to get to them to run properly...and frankly I'm not going to spend money to deal with that. I think Steam sounds great, and I have been tempted. But it's too complicated to figure out exactly what you need to run what properly.
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This is largely exaggerated. There are countless gamers who just run on Catalyst 10.10 with a 5xxx GPU and either an AMD or INTEL cpu and load games just fine. There are rarely game breaking bugs. Patches simply increase playability or minor tweaks.

It's not complicated at all. Most of the time, shit just runs off what hardware/software you already have. I've been PC gaming for over 5 years now, on multiple machines of different builds. Only ONCE have I had a game not work right out of the bat.

Bugs? Minor annoyances? Both consoles and PC have that. It will always be this way.

But PC has driver updates and patches that increase performance over time. Loved Dirt 2 and its performance when it came out? Holy shit they increased its performance over time. You just don't get that on consoles.
 
MTMBStudios said:
It's funny because all of those games would play better on PC. But alot of PC exclusives don't work at all on console without heavy modification (and possibly dumbing down).

And take a look at that Wii emulator on PC.
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Yadda yadda yadda

The PC lacks those franchises. It is a good point.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
I think its because the PS3 and 360 are near each other in price range so they are comparable. Just the Windows OS alone though is half the price of the 360. Sure you can get all kinds of added performance in multi system games and judge the performance but it comes at a cost so its never factored in.
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It's really a lot more simple than that. People just don't like seeing such a clear winner in a fight their platform of choice can't win.
 
grap3fruitman said:
I hate WASD. I just hate the keyboard/mouse setup in general. It's so uncomfortable. I have what you might consider a gaming PC to boot with a Core i7 860, Radeon 5850 and 8GB of RAM.
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I'm with you, for the most part. The shit is horrid for any modern game damn near that isn't designed specifically for it. The mouse is cool for pointing tasks, aiming, and whatnot, but WASD is terrible for anything outside of something that moves like fucking Doom 1. Very few exceptions for me personally when it comes to actually implementing the keyboard into a game. Typing of the Dead is fuck awesome though :^)

I can deal with it for movement if I'm just romping through something though.
 
CoffeeJanitor said:
Yadda yadda yadda

The PC lacks those franchises. It is a good point.
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It is a good point, but consoles lack tons of good games that PC gamers get to enjoy so it is really a two way street.
 
Funtruck said:
get out of here with your graphics whore bullshit. it's all you care about.
and p.s: the nsmb wii ran perfect on the wii, 60 fps and all; it just looks better on dolphin with aa and hd resolution
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When the game plays the same with the same controls, and the only difference is graphics, I think being a 'graphics whore' is perfectly reasonable.
 
IchigoSharingan said:
Made moot since there are a lot of great PC franchises not on console.
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But Kirby and Gears blow them all out of the water, at least according to a post on this page that was edited but not edited quite fast enough to avoid being captured for posterity.
 
darthbob said:
When the game plays the same with the same controls, and the only difference is graphics, I think being a 'graphics whore' is perfectly reasonable.
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except those games can't be played on PC period
 
I'm a picky gamer, only own a laptop with an okay graphics card. There's no point building a PC since I don't go for the graphics intensive genres (shooters, wrpgs, rts, strategy). Use steam mostly for random indie games. Likes jRPGs so had to pick a console and got a ps3 as a gift. this generation sucks.
 
Funtruck said:
not really
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Wow, nice argument there.

Your whole spiel has been basically that there's no good exclusives for the PC and your best counter is "not really?" It's like talking to a brick wall here.
 
Big B said:
I'm a picky gamer, only own a laptop with an okay graphics card. There's no point building a PC since I don't go for the graphics intensive genres (shooters, wrpgs, rts, strategy). Use steam mostly for random indie games. Likes jRPGs so had to pick a console and got a ps3 as a gift. this generation sucks.
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I hope you bought terraria! :P Definition of an indie game without need for a good PC!
 
Funtruck said:
name 3 great PC franchises that cant be played on consoles
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Star Craft
World of Warcraft
Diablo

And that is just by one company :)

I can name 3 on console too!
God of War
Uncharted
Mario

See?
 
Funtruck said:
not really
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It's not my cup of tea, but last time I checked Minecraft was still only available on PC. It may also not be your kind of game, but there sure are a hell of a lot of people who'd disagree with you.

And there are all of Blizzard's games.

C'mon, son. I don't even play PC games.

Edit: Damn this thread moves quick. Looks like I've been beaten and then some.
 
Even when games are considered multiplatforms,they are exclusive to my pc because of mods that can totaly change and add to the experience..

just labeling MP means jack.
 
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