1) Okay, my bad.
First inkling I had that I was sick with COVID was the night before I found out my boss had it...I felt like my asshole was going to fall out for a minute there.
Scientists also told people for devades it was fine to smoke. Do I want to find out 20 years from now they acrively harmed my health? No.
Covid has killed more people than any pandemic since the 1918 Spanish Flu. Over 4.3 million people. Those are the hard facts. You can't say that's "not many people."
Was the guy who tried to overturn a democratic election through force an authoritarian threat or nah? Just curious.
What the hell are you talking about?
Fair enough then. There's a big overlap in those in the US.
Until over 80% of the population is vaccinated, you can't really claim that things can go back to "normal". Opening by steps and limiting unvaccinated people's access to crowed places is the logical step to keep things in check.
And you're just assuming I am anti vax - I'm not, I encouraged my own mother to get it, and you're assuming I don't have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, is that due to my concrete stance on keeping this country as free and Liberal as it's always been and I'll fight to my last breath to keep it that way? And you also assume that I don't have a medical reason not to have the vaccine, when in fact I do and due to being allergic to seemingly everything for the last 10 years, I won't be allowed the vaccine either. I bet you don't even know that due to medical exemption being certified that GPs and doctors are not required, nor will even provide when asked, written confirmation of your exemption. You even have to provide your own badges and lanyard.
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It should be noted that none of them became sick while actually at schools as schools are closed right now.Three Florida teachers die of Covid, says union
They are said to have died from Covid-19 related complications - days before the school year begins.
It is, but is also the bar used in the past as successful "herd" immunity by the vaccines. We might as well need higher vaccination rate, but that is the low bar some countries are failing to achieve.
As the story says, none of them had been in a school recently but schools in the state are indeed open.
It’s the media’s fault! Lol the cry of the loser.
Erosion if trust in the media has more to do with partisanship than poor reporting though. Like journalistic standards have eroded a bit in the sense that we're moving faster and more profit driven but our media is still more reliable than that of many countries and and at many points in time where it was far worse. The problem is that America is divided, paranoid, and suspicious to an extent that makes it hard to function.
Exactly what you've been told to think
And you're imagining that I'm thinking something that I'm not. I didn't call you a COVID denier. I'm responding specifically to the points you made. Your argument hinged on your claim that COVID deaths aren't that bad compared to flu deaths so why are we all afraid? Your argument used bad math and it was still completely wrong, even if your math was right.
That was a fine strategy pre-Delta. But now that Delta is on the scene, and we know that it is a lot more infectious to even fully vaccinated individuals, we still need to exercise caution.
That's great for your state, but my concern is not just for me and my immediate community. I have concern for the entire country and the entire world. Global pandemics are an "everyone" problem. You can't ignore the global consequences because if you do, it'll eventually come knocking at your doorstep.
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They were incredibly low pre-Delta.
Are you not factoring in long haul COVID into your individual risk assessment?The survival is far greater than 99.7%
this Oxford Uni calculator will give your life expectancy
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Mine is ;
COVID associated death 0.0028% 1 in 35714
Let me guess, only the media that reports news you don’t want to hear is untrustworthy.
Yup, as doctors point out, Mortality/Deaths is a blunt and incomplete metric on the impacts. The belief that it is the be all end all is, in the best cases, part of medical illiteracy. Easy to point out and rebut.
But none of the people complaining about media errors are holding Trump to the same standard when he lies 300 times a day. There's an implicit hypocrisy to all of it that tells the real story, which is that hyperpartisan rhetoric is killing the country."I only killed 12 people. There are worse serial killers out there."
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Our media caught Covid sometime around 2015. It was in the ICU for the last year or so. It's now dead.
How would America have responded to Covid if our media trust was near the top of the world rankings?
On an individual basis, yes. However, this is the real world where the world consists of not just you, but about 7 billion other people. The more people who reason the way you are reasoning, the worse off we all are collectively.
What lockdowns are people in? I feel like I am living in some parallel universe. I have at worst vicious totalatarian signs 'recommending' I wear a mask, my vaccine card has been requested 0 times, I have been to the movie theater multiple times, on a few small vacations and to tourist spots, go to packed restaurants.
Right, so here's the UK's current covid situation:
This is very much what you would call a stable situation. Four weeks after the country completely unlocked from all restrictions, this is where we find ourselves. The doom sayers got it absolutely wrong. There has been no mass explosion in cases, rising into six figures. Even though we have the most virulent and contagious version of covid as the only variant left in the UK, we are continuing to function as a fully open country, without our emergency services being put under severe pressure. All thanks to the remarkable vaccine program.
I only expect things to improve more as time goes by, and our vaccine program rolls out even more.
Like I said it's not just the rate of vaccination being a little higher in the UK, it's that our vaccinated population is somewhat segregated from our unvaccinated population. There are towns in the US where the vax rate is is under 30% despite the fact that there are states where almost 80% of adults are vaccinated. So it's more able to spread through our unvaccinated population because they're more likely to be clustered together.
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