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While I agree that refusing a macrobrew at a ballgame is pretty douchey, you never talking to him again after that doesn't make you any better. In fact, I think that's worse.
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Craft Brews Chipping Away At Big Beer's Dominance
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LegendofJoe
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Yeah if someone buys you a Miller or Bud at a game or wherever you're a douche if you refuse it. On the other side of the spectrum I've had friends who have refused to drink craft beers I've offered them saying they only want to stick with what they know, it doesn't make me mad but I don't understand why they're so afraid of trying something different?
David Incorporated Esq.
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I just want to point out that anyone who prefers IPAs isn't a real person. Science.
That said, I had an awesome black IPA the other night, which I wasn't aware was a thing until then...wish I could remember what it was called...
Edit: I'd definitely refuse a free bud, I seriously can't drink that shit. Not in a "this is somewhat icky but whatever" way but in a "wow I can't force this shit down my throat" way.
That said, I had an awesome black IPA the other night, which I wasn't aware was a thing until then...wish I could remember what it was called...
Edit: I'd definitely refuse a free bud, I seriously can't drink that shit. Not in a "this is somewhat icky but whatever" way but in a "wow I can't force this shit down my throat" way.
distantmantra
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Craft beer is pretty much available everywhere in Seattle. Granted, you don't have as much choice at a sporting event or a concert, but you can always get something that wasn't made by the BMC.
When I'm talking to people (particularly those from outside the Seattle/PNW region) about my interest in craft beer, I get a lot of "You mean like Blue Moon?" or "You mean like Shock Top?"
When I'm talking to people (particularly those from outside the Seattle/PNW region) about my interest in craft beer, I get a lot of "You mean like Blue Moon?" or "You mean like Shock Top?"
According to most, Yuengling might be considered too big. They are with Sam Adams as the largest American owned breweries. Although, I think Sam might have surpassed them in the past year.
turnbuckle
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I'm really looking forward to the Tigers v Yankees game I'm going to in a couple of weeks. I love the contrast I get - A nice Bells or Sam Adams before the game starts, another nice $8-$10 craft beer when I'm still motivated enough to go seek one out between innings, and some canned Lebatt's poured into a plastic cup when the swill vendor comes by.
No ketchup on my hot dogs though. Grilled peppers and onions, with the occasional mustard. I haven't seen any fancy mustard at CoPa, but the straight yellow stuff works for me.
A douchey co-worker who is willing to flaunt his douchiness at a ballgame is uncouth unless you're a Yankees fan. Then it's just expected.
No ketchup on my hot dogs though. Grilled peppers and onions, with the occasional mustard. I haven't seen any fancy mustard at CoPa, but the straight yellow stuff works for me.
A douchey co-worker who is willing to flaunt his douchiness at a ballgame is uncouth unless you're a Yankees fan. Then it's just expected.
Do you remember the brewery?
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I lost my best friend because he wouldn't shotgun old milwaulkee red with me in the taco bell parking lot.
sazabirules
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Does Sam Adams have better distribution than Yuengling? I always read in threads on here that many posters have never seen it in stores.
distantmantra
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Boston Beer/Sam Adams has a much larger distribution market than Yuengling.
I really don't like lagers, regardless of who made it. There are a few random pilsners that I kinda like, and some local places make a nice kolsch, but that's it.
I really don't like lagers, regardless of who made it. There are a few random pilsners that I kinda like, and some local places make a nice kolsch, but that's it.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Alaska something? I think it may have been an Alaskan Black IPA, but I'm pretty sure "Moose" was in the title so I'm not sure.
Fenderputty
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Another cool brewery east of LA
http://www.hangar24brewery.com/
Whyen I drink beer, it's a micro brew.
http://www.hangar24brewery.com/
Whyen I drink beer, it's a micro brew.
CitizenCope
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Yes all of them. Every last one of them. Rolls eyes. Love beer threads.
If someone gave me a Budweiser at a game, I would drink it. But, if I go to a restaurant and all they have is that sort of beer, I'll go with a red wine instead. I don't really like lagers much anyway. Luckily around here, most places carry either Stone IPA, Arrogant Bastard or Sierra Nevada. I'm quite happy with any of those.
Dad's Little Helper from Rogue perhaps?
Edit: Ah, Alaskan Black. Their Amber is awesome as well.
...spending over twenty dollars for someone who rejects everything purchased of non-refundable items is not as "douchey"? There were obviously more factors with this person that lead to my decision, but if you think that is worse then I fear how you act in public.
I have a friend that all he drinks is Blue Moon. I often get him to try other things, but it's just his comfort zone. Don't hold anything against him.
HappyBivouac
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This makes me pretty happy. I drink exclusively craft for a number of reasons.
Spider from Mars
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I am a bit of a beer snob but damn, I love malt liquor also. Steel Reserve represent!
Absolutely. Yuengling has expanded though, it's just not readily available on a broad scale. Most liquor stores specializing in craft beers will normally carry them. Rarely see it on draft at any bars.
I've never seen it in OK or TX, and Sam Adams is everywhere here.
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This is actually true. One of the things I miss most about the region.
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distantmantra
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Yeah, I don't care what people drink. If they like it, that's great. My problem is the behavior of the large macrobrewers and their attempts at screwing over the craft market.
Sam Adams is available at least to Texas, and probably in most of the 50 states. Yuengling doesn't even make it to Kentucky.
distantmantra
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Sam Adams is able to advertise nationally on TV and radio. There isn't another "craft" brewery of that scale.
turnbuckle
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Before I knew anything I thought Sam Adams was as ubiquitous as Miller/Budweiser. They definitely do great with their distribution; just had a Cherry Wheat on tap yesterday here in Michigan. Pretty much every restaurant/bar I go to has at least one variant of Sam Adams on tap.
distantmantra
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Recommendations for craft beers or any other beers similar to Kingfisher I can buy in regular grocers? Loved the taste of that beer - Trader Joe's used to carry it but no more.
Where do you live? Not all craft beer is available everywhere.
Sam Adams has a huge brewery and distribution center near Cincinnati so your area and mine gets a lot of Sam.
Eh, it depends. I like Shock Top Belgian White, just because it tastes kinda like Oberon and they serve it at venues that are Bud exclusive. It's the best of a bunch of bad options.
The lemon shandy Shock Top, on the other hand, tastes like Ajax. It is literally like drinking lemon glass cleaner. I threw it away.
Yeah. I would say even the seasonal brews Sam does reaches even farther than Yuengling. I don't see them too often, but was surprised how often I saw them in Texas.
There was this chain in Texas called UFO or Flying Saucer (I think?). They had a ton on draft and always had a special going. Remember I drank nine/ten Harps for a dollar a piece in the span of a few hours watching a ball game. Went a few more times on my next visit. Always enjoy the girls in school outfits and the specials they have.
I think I actually poured that out on the sidewalk this past summer. I think it was the one branded with a mustache or something.
Flying Saucer. They are a regional chain. You can find them in Memphis and Nashville, some locations in Texas, and I'm not sure where else.
distantmantra
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I think that's it. They've partnered with Untappd a few times on special badges.
I got no problem with PBR. Something about Coors doesn't click with me at all, but it's probably not a problem as a 2nd/3rd beer. Having said that, the local beer bar had Piney or Pliney or whatever it was called, which was supposedly one of the highest-ranked beers on some enthusiast website. $8 a pint but I agree it's one of the better beers I've had, and it goes down very easily.
I really don't see the big dogs really making a huge effort to win the craft brew market. A lot of those people are going to ignore them irregardless of the quality, and more variation means costlier manufacturing since they'd have to create processes for yet another line, nevermind the marketing to have it even show up on people's radar.
I really don't see the big dogs really making a huge effort to win the craft brew market. A lot of those people are going to ignore them irregardless of the quality, and more variation means costlier manufacturing since they'd have to create processes for yet another line, nevermind the marketing to have it even show up on people's radar.
Jealous. I tried to get tickets to that Saturday game vs. the Yanks, but struck out. Going to try for the Twins game later on.
Comerica Park's food is incredible for ballpark food, but the beer selection is eh. I usually go with Labbatt's. They have Leinenkugel, but it's the berry/shandy stuff I'm not a huge fan of.
Ford Field actually has a stand that sells Founder's and Bell's now. Maybe Comerica relented in the off season and has one too.
Flying Saucer is definitely cool. If you get in their area don't be afraid to check them out. 100+ beers on tap, and fun daily specials. I know I got a Yuengling 1 liter glass mug filled with their Oktoberfest for like $8.
maquiladora
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I don't drink anymore, but when I did, it was craft beer.
Always.
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I don't really see the point of drinking a beer like bud light or MGD. They're generally very weak on flavor and ABV. I'm not "above" drinking them if that's all there is or whatever, and if I hadn't started drinking them when I started drinking I would never have found my way into the much-more-awesome craft beers, but if I'm going domestic I'm going PBR. Might as well go all the fucking way to that side of the spectrum.
That said, Utah has some great microbrews, my favorite being Epic. They seem to always have something new for sale on their store. And it's one of the few places you can get beer >4% ABV on Sunday since all the liquor stores are closed.
That said, Utah has some great microbrews, my favorite being Epic. They seem to always have something new for sale on their store. And it's one of the few places you can get beer >4% ABV on Sunday since all the liquor stores are closed.
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Most of my friends know me well enough to not hand me Miller Lite at a baseball game, though. They sell Ballast Point at both of our stadiums. I wouldn't throw away beer, of course, but still.
CrunchyFrog
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I feel like this is a sign of a general and growing trend towards local markets following the backlash from the bank/car bailouts. People are feeling more comfortable paying slightly more for quality product and services, and they're more reluctant to throw money at large faceless corporations not beholden to local interests. I know here in NOLA, while we certainly did feel some effects of the recession, the impact appeared to be severely diminished since a large segment of the metro area relies on local business, PARTICULARLY in the entertainment and restaurant industries. I honestly think it's just what this country needs atm. I'm a localvore, and as much I love getting 1.5x the meal at Taco Bell and at far more convenience, I'm coming around to the fact that some red beans from Breaux Mart down the street and Manda sausage (green onion, accept no substitutes) is so much better - and even cheaper when I've got the time commitment to spare.
More relevant to the topic, Abita beer is also definitely the beer of choice around here, being a fan of Purple Haze and Amber myself. There's actually a pretty vocal minority that almost actively protests against the "shitty domestics," my sis being one of the loudest, preferring either local or imported. TBH, though, most beer tastes like shit to me so take that as you will. Also Abita's rootbeer is possibly only second to Barq's, which while owned by Coca Cola, got started and still keeps most of its business here in the French Quarter.
More relevant to the topic, Abita beer is also definitely the beer of choice around here, being a fan of Purple Haze and Amber myself. There's actually a pretty vocal minority that almost actively protests against the "shitty domestics," my sis being one of the loudest, preferring either local or imported. TBH, though, most beer tastes like shit to me so take that as you will. Also Abita's rootbeer is possibly only second to Barq's, which while owned by Coca Cola, got started and still keeps most of its business here in the French Quarter.
Most stadiums now give you some options. You may need to find the specific vendor, but they have them. In Boston, you pretty much can find most things. The Boston Garden has a great selection. The place I could only find Miller/Bud was Shea Stadium. Place was torn down, sure the new one has a good selection.
Part of the other problem is, lines! You don't want to miss any of the game or walk all over the place. If that's the case, I just find whatever is closest and has the least line. In some cases, it will be the vendor serving the craft beer as they just aren't as popular.
Freyjadour
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It's cheap and some of them are moderately drinkable for long periods of time.
I don't see why they'd want to. The low end is taken care of by the multinationals. If microbreweries have a premium product that caters to discriminating customers and earns a decent margin, I think many breweries would be happy with that.
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CouldBeWorse
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I love this development. I've also noticed that these craft beers are more and more represented at restaurants of all types, including chains.
Sweetwater was my first love and will always be my favorite.
Sweetwater was my first love and will always be my favorite.
turnbuckle
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I am quite fond of Oberon but I don't like Shock Top's Belgian White at all
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They were actually a gift from a very generous gaffer. I usually take my dad out to a few games a summer, but this will be the first time we get to go to a home opening series.
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Leinen's Berry Weiss is so bad but I know a lot of people that like it. It tastes just like Fruity Pebbles to me. I've been able to get Atwater's IPA and Dirty Blonde at Copa but I had to do a little bit of searching.
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