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CVG Rumor: Microsoft to reveal EA partnership at Next Xbox event
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This, on the other hand, would be the bigger deal.
Highly doubtful. Microsoft want full control over their ecosystem, and their past actions show this with not allowing Steam on to their platform for Portal 2.
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swordsman720
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BF4 one year exclusive on xbox720
A rumor came up that BF4 will require an always online connection, and this rumor has got quite a lot of things right so far.
Napalm_Frank
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zomgbbqftw
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It's probably some kind of timed exclusive DLC.
EA won't fuck with FIFA or Madden, so that leaves BF4 and ME4, I'm guessing MS have got timed exclusive DLC for one or both of these titles. However, with Sony jumping into bed with Activision we don't know if they are going to wheel out some kind of timed exclusive DLC for COD.
In the end all of these deals will cancel each other out and unless EA decide to fuck with FIFA and Madden (which doesn't seem likely as they would incur the wrath of the licencors and their investors) this strikes me as no more or less important than Sony's deal with Activision.
EA won't fuck with FIFA or Madden, so that leaves BF4 and ME4, I'm guessing MS have got timed exclusive DLC for one or both of these titles. However, with Sony jumping into bed with Activision we don't know if they are going to wheel out some kind of timed exclusive DLC for COD.
In the end all of these deals will cancel each other out and unless EA decide to fuck with FIFA and Madden (which doesn't seem likely as they would incur the wrath of the licencors and their investors) this strikes me as no more or less important than Sony's deal with Activision.
What if this 'exclusive' deal is for EA to showcase all it's upcoming next gen titles at the MS 'nextBox' reveal event first because MS don't have such 'core' titles themselves?
What if MS's first party development is (apart from HALO and one or two other titles) still an anemic as ever and focused on Kinect and 'family titles'?
How would the loyal 360 audience react is the pre E3 MS next gen machine event only featured 'core titles' from EA titles and whatever the next HALO game will be....., ?
We're through the looking glass here people.
................., or not whatever.
What if MS's first party development is (apart from HALO and one or two other titles) still an anemic as ever and focused on Kinect and 'family titles'?
How would the loyal 360 audience react is the pre E3 MS next gen machine event only featured 'core titles' from EA titles and whatever the next HALO game will be....., ?
We're through the looking glass here people.
................., or not whatever.
The one that came out of China?
Hmm. So... let's work with BF4 requires an always online connection... EA state there are opportunities from always being online... rumours of the nextbox requiring an (always?) online connection (to what degree isn't clear)...
There's a missing link - what's the incentive for EA and MS? - and I've got to take the dog for a walk.
shinra-bansho
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I really don't see how this:
That's a somewhat liberal interpretation.
is derived from this:
That's a somewhat liberal interpretation.
We don't know whether Bungie are doing something where every platform gets its own exclusive content and whether the deal with Activision extends beyond that. Come E3 and Microsoft doesn't roll out the next COD then you know something went down.
Man-is-Obsolete
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^^^^^That's his point, that EA could also have a similar deal with Sony, but Microsoft will get the announcement. It's all a mole hill in the end, they are just trying to convince us it is a mountain.
I know some of you guys are kidding, but a timed exclusive for a game is not happening. Dlc I could see, but EA will want their games on as many platforms as possible at once. Especially with something like BF4. Which is their flagship series, and is coming ot PS360 even.
DLC is going to become more and more fought over, not so much games themselves. With dev costs rising through this gen and possibly more next, 3rd parties can't afford not to have console parity when it comes to releasing games.
I know some of you guys are kidding, but a timed exclusive for a game is not happening. Dlc I could see, but EA will want their games on as many platforms as possible at once. Especially with something like BF4. Which is their flagship series, and is coming ot PS360 even.
DLC is going to become more and more fought over, not so much games themselves. With dev costs rising through this gen and possibly more next, 3rd parties can't afford not to have console parity when it comes to releasing games.
zomgbbqftw
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I hope this article is based on more than just the investor conference yesterday.
Ha ha. QFT. To be honest though, I'm not sure I'm at all interested in what EA have to offer at this point. I expect nothing exciting or surprising from them at this point. I'm sure prettier Fifa and BF4 will be huge though.
Phonomezer
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Things like this don't take a week. Note EA not being at Sony's presentation.
grimshawish
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Am pretty sure there are business partnerships with almost all early pubs/devs and the producer on the new hardware.
Yeah or even some kinect 2 shite like they banged on about ea being tight with ms last e3 showing kinect features etc.
What if MS went to the licensors and paid them to allow for it to be exclusive to their platform?
That would cost far too much money.
Yeah that was the joke
It must have flew right over my head lol.
zomgbbqftw
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Well Sony also announced a partnership with Blizzard on the night as well, I'm guessing it is some kind of top level marketing partnership (read: money) in return for (timed) exclusive content covering the whole of ActiBlizzard as a publisher. It strikes me as too coincidental that Sony had both Blizzard and Activision showing their premier IPs at the unveiling unless there is some kind of deal in place. That's not to say Destiny won't be on NXTBX, it will, just that Sony may have paid for some DLC etc...
That's why I think all of these timed exclusive deals and "co-marketing money" will cancel themselves out over the medium term and eventually they will come to nought and be cancelled.
SkullplateMurray
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EA makes far too much money to go entirely exclusive. What about mobile? What about their online social stuff?
I'd be surprised if this extends beyond earlier DLC, platform exclusive in-game content and the like.
I'd be surprised if this extends beyond earlier DLC, platform exclusive in-game content and the like.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Are you being serious or you just trying to play devil's advocate?
Because that ain't happening.
Black Republican
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Wonderful.
zomgbbqftw
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The only way to do that would be for MS to buy the licences and then sub lease them to EA on an exclusivity basis. We're talking billions of dollars for FIFA, NFL and PGA. It's not really something worth considering as MS investors would rail at wasting money on frivolous endeavours. Most already see Xbox as a distraction, a move like that would anger them further.
travisbickle
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In for example FIFA, Aren't the licensors most, if not all, the Football Associations in the world?
You might be able to bribe some of them, but not all.
CommonSense
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In this thread EA choses the right partner and gaf asplodes.
BF4 xbox/windows only ya heard it hear first.
BF4 xbox/windows only ya heard it hear first.
zomgbbqftw
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To be fair, it looks like Sony are paying Activision to screw Xbox gamers out of Destiny DLC. It rubs both ways. Neither MS or Sony have the gamers' interests at heart so let's not pretend that either one of them is acting in our interests.
Then we already know which shooter everyone is betting on. MS on the Respawn game and Sony on Destiny. If Respawn's game is just another shooter Sony might have the better deal. We will see.
Well with Activision announcing Destiny PS4 exclusive content and Blizzard stating an strategic patnership, it is starting to look like roles are going to be reversed again.
It wouldn't surprise me if EA made this move to balance things like they did with Battlefield timed exclusive content for PS3 because of CoD content.
So, it looks like timed DLC across the boards. Shame really as that was the shitiest practice to come out of this gen.
Why cant any of these idiots realise that one paying customer deserves the same DLC support as another, regardless of platform
It wouldn't surprise me if EA made this move to balance things like they did with Battlefield timed exclusive content for PS3 because of CoD content.
So, it looks like timed DLC across the boards. Shame really as that was the shitiest practice to come out of this gen.
Why cant any of these idiots realise that one paying customer deserves the same DLC support as another, regardless of platform
The Living Tribunal
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It's a two way street, son.
Devils advocate.
Seriously I expect a deal, IMHO, where if you buy an xbox 720 disk version of a game. You have digital copy access code water marked to the disk, kind of like PS3 Cross buy games.
Is it meaningful not really - but if we are moving to digital only future in the next 15 years then it could be.
CommonSense
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Sarcasm.....I don't think EA would be stupid.enough to cut out 50 million potential users.
However if they actually DID finagle an origin deal with MS then I could see the cost of the partnership being BF4 exclusivity I suppose.
Nope.
This announcement depends soley on whether Microsoft has taken the leap and blocked used games.
If they have, this is going to be FAR bigger than a timed exclusive. This is going to be an outright exclusive, or multiple outright exclusives. Again, that's working under the assumption that MS are blocking used games.
I've posted many times saying that there's zero chance of them blocking used games if they don't have assurances from the big publishers/developers. This partnership is the first hint at that.
Timed exclusives just aren't worth the commercial suicide of blocking used games.
If Microsoft and EA are looking at this long term, as in eradicating the used game market, this will be big.
This is what makes me laugh with a lot of people on GAF. They think that Sony and Microsoft actually care abut them, like you said they are only interested in one thing: the bottom line.
Like I said in my previous post we should get some answers come E3.
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