More room for fingers.
Probably more comfortable.
Heh, it's still serves the same purpose and probably won't be hard to see.
ENELOOPS.
Enough said.
Doesn't really matter much in terms of actually using the controller.
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CVG: Xbox 360 controller vs. Xbox One controller
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More room for fingers.
Probably more comfortable.
Heh, it's still serves the same purpose and probably won't be hard to see.
ENELOOPS.
Enough said.
Doesn't really matter much in terms of actually using the controller.
Flatline
Banned
Noone is mentioning the LB and RB in these videos. Are they as terrible as on the 360 controller?
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Can't wait to get one of these.
Rickenslacker
Banned
He said they were a bit more resistant than the 360's, but not really much of a noticeable change.
Syphon Filter
Member
what did you feel was better on the 360 controller?
Flatline
Banned
I want to know about their position which is terrible on 360. Btw they're pretty resistant already, that's not the problem with LB and RB.
You didn't have enough room for your fingers before? Lol. A few journo's have mentioned that the new width of the triggers leads to far more accidental presses or undesired half presses (they also mentioned this had never happened to them with the 360 pad). Dampened soft triggers (akin to the SIXAXIS and less so the DS4) imo aren't as good to use. Hopefully the Xbox One's still has a good degree of spring back to it. It's one of the things I dislike most about the PS pads even with Giotek triggers.
Agree with you on the light, but that's why I put it in the positives too. And by Eneloops you mean rechargeable AA batteries lol. That is pretty archaic for an expensive 2013 pad, but given all the other improvements, somewhat excusable. If people made a bigger stink about it though, they might throw in the play and charge kit for free, but if that happens it most probably won't be because of Xbox fans.
idrinkalone
Banned
Disagree. I like the idea of the bumpers being closer to the triggers and bigger. Now you can click the bumper while having your finger on the trigger. Or at least that's what I'm hoping.
I've read the same thing from a lot of hands on.
ChosenPredator
Banned
yeah all his negatives were actually positives for me lol
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
The position of the bumpers always felt fine to me. I like how it feels more than L1 and R1 on the Dualshock, if that's what you're comparing it to.
But this is what controller arguments always come down to: a war of preferences.
anexanhume
Member
Looks perfect to me. I hope the DS4 is close.
Syphon Filter
Member
Aren't softer triggers worse? I like the different feels you can get on 360 for racers like froza or even shooters.
goldenpp72
Member
If I had to guess, they loosened the sticks very slightly in order to fix the drifting issue the 360 pad had, which was in part due to the sticks being too tight and the dead zone, so I wouldn't worry much about it if that's the case it would only be a very minor loosening. It's funny how this controller is basically perfect looking, as in I can't imagine what they could do with a new pad to really improve it, but time will tell.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Agreed. Hope it isn't as loose as the dualshock.
ChosenPredator
Banned
Not sure just my personal preference not to much of racer guy - what I use right now is the razer tournament controller because you can adjust the joystick level - but i dont really like their trigger.
BadAss2961
Member
I still don't understand how people prefer batteries over USB. Makes no sense to me. USB was a little forward thinking for a console in 2006, now batteries are a glaring flaw in 2013. What other modern devices like this use batteries?
If internal batteries were dying left and right, I could see it. But all of my DS3s still hold charge.
If internal batteries were dying left and right, I could see it. But all of my DS3s still hold charge.
I think by softer he meant the actual noise levels not the tension of the spring. It could just be a more solid build quality or an increase in dampening around the mechanical parts. DS3 didn't have soft triggers, they were just mushy feeling, had a strange angle of movement, were convex, and didn't have enough play in the springs.
Depends what the response and feedback is like when you're actually playing a game. Clicky triggers aren't inherently better (especially when they start sounding like squeaky hinges), it's just what we are all used to. That being said, they could also be the worst things ever.
goldenpp72
Member
Many reasons, when my 360 pad dies, I walk 3 feet over to the wall, pull out 2 more eneloops, and continue. With the ps3 you're required to be tethered to the console for X amount of time until you finish charging it, and it came with a 1 foot USB cable. You then have to deal with the long term issue of the charges holding worse and worse and of course outright dying in the future. I have 3 PS3 pads and none of them have crapped out yet but, when they do, it's going to be a much bigger hassle to take care of. And don't tell me how you can by a USB cable for a few bucks, because guess what, that's how much multiple eneloop batteries end up costing.
In the end, the cost of rechargeable batteries that are also universal means the controller can in theory last forever until you outright break it, so while I won't condemn Sony's approach, as someone who likes to whip out vintage consoles from time to time, I do prefer this. It's ultimately cheaper to handle it this way anyways, My Wii remotes, 360 pad, remotes for the tv, other devices, I just buy a pack of eneloops cheap on amazon and keep a set on the charge. People who prefer the lithium method are either bad shoppers or short sighted in my mind. I'm not sure what kind of battery the PS3 pad uses, but is it a universal style that i'll be able to buy with a perfect charge in 10 years?
Syphon Filter
Member
I saw some people whose ds3's batterey died and they had to get a whole new controller. I prefer the xbox way,
Syphon Filter
Member
Maybe it was that, just watched it again.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Awesome rechargeable battery
Amazing rechargeable batteries which hold their charge for a ridiculously long time
the 'grip', the way it FELT in my hands, overall. I don't really like the new shoulder buttons, they were more difficult to use than the 360 pad. To be fair, I don't have large hands so that probably contributes.
I have a AA battery charger (oddly enough, bought it for my Wavebird back in the day and still does its job) and I imagine many other people do as well. I can keep multiple sets of AAs lying around and it's easier than constantly plugging in the controller. When a controller battery suddenly dies it's not usually because I played for 30 hours straight, but rather because I forgot to charge it - with AAs that's no problem.
I don't mind my Wii U pro controller at all because its battery lasts like 100 goddamn hours or someshit, but it drives me nuts with my PS3 especially since it doesn't charge with the console off. And if the controller dies on you mid-game, what are your options there? Plug it in and lose the wireless-ness, or buy extra controllers I guess.
That's not any better of an argument because you can just as easily buy a 10 ft usb cable for a couple bucks, which is much less than a set of eneloops. In any case you can buy the charge and play that finally has a decent battery.
It's not a negative to give people options though and its easy as fuck for people to change batteries. Eneloops last like weeks in my controller so it's either people judging eneloops by comparing them to the crappy current play and charge or people saying it's more difficult than unscrewing a DS3 that have no idea whatsoever. Many people already have a bunch of eneloops from this gen alone, and even if you don't want to spend extra money you surely have your 10 ft usb cable that you can use wired like you would with your DS3.
Always-honest
Banned
Yeah teh controller is the best thing about the Xbone imo. Seems great.
The last batteries you'll ever buy for your Xbox One controller. This one pack will last the entire generation. Believe!
goldenpp72
Member
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004UG41XW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Pack of 8 (probably the typical amount someone would buy) is 20 dollars, so 5 dollars per set of batteries for each controller, with the added flexibility of being able to never be tethered, use them on other devices (everyone has need of AA's) and such, it's a very difficult argument to win in favor of the USB cord, especially since most of us agree wireless is better. I imagine a long USB cord would be at least 3-5 dollars, but I can't say for sure as I don't buy them. I'm not saying people who like USB charging are idiots or something, I make due with it on the U which is far more frustrating as it dies in 4 hours, but still, i'd much rather all my pads share the same common batteries. It's more insane when people go buy disposable batteries for devices they intend to use a ton over a decade.
With PS4:
1) The console charges the controller in standby mode.
2) You can buy a controller docking station if you don't want any wires hanging from the machine (what I'll be doing)
Complete non-issue.
goldenpp72
Member
So how will you be playing your games while the controller is docked? Unless you just never have the controller die of course, I surely don't like keeping my pads charging all the time. Plus, the 360 already charged the controllers (with the official cord) in standby mode so this isn't some new PS4 thing, it's been done for ages (I actually figured the Ps3 could do this as well)
Don't forget, you'll need to pony up for Windows 8 to run it! Good ol' MS.
Wait what? Seriously?
goldenpp72
Member
You just remember to dock or plug in your controller every few days and let it charge overnight? How is that any worse than opening a battery door, removing batteries, taking batteries off a charger, putting them in the controller and placing the dead batteries on a charger? It seems far more annoying to me than remember to place a controller in a charger every few days or week.
dragonelite
Member
I just bolted my controller open for shits and giggles and i wanted to see inside of the controller. Was a mess to get it all into place and working again
I just bolted my controller open for shits and giggles and i wanted to see inside of the controller. Was a mess to get it all into place and working again
lol, was it hollow??
No confirmation as of yet, but this is Microsoft we're asking about. Would anyone be surprised if it requires Windows 8?
goldenpp72
Member
Wow, you've just made an act that takes about 15 seconds sound infinitely more complex than it really is. Fact is, I have access to a 100 percent charge at all times, aside the few seconds it takes to reach over to the wall and put new ones in. It's a very cheap additional cost that also compliments plenty of other devices in the process, and that's all i'm saying. I'd be curious to see a poll of people who own both who would say the PS3 method is superior, I own both, the 360 method is preferable to me, but I can see why someone who only owns a PS3 would say otherwise as well as it's not something most would put much thought into.
If the PS4 took AA batteries i'd be happier for it, it really does remove a long term problem for a very small cost. I do applaud Sony for taking on the additional cost for the attempt to make life easier for the user however, it's certainly not something I hold against them, but it would be nifty to be able to maybe opt in for a 5 dollars cheaper pad that uses AA batteries.
Even if we set aside the dying internal battery, which doesn't happen often.
By having an internal battery, you HAVE to have one of two scenarios.
1) Buy a second controller that is charged and ready (what I did, HATE wiring a wireless controller)
2) Wire your wireless controller to a 1 foot cable for hours while you play. Or buy a longer cable and still wire your wireless controller.
I can't see in what parallel universe this is better than simply swapping out batteries or a battery pack.