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Dad owns daughter on Youtube over disrespectful Facebook post

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Kraftwerk said:
Having helped raise my little sister I can understand what he did. It is very disappointing when a child rebels against you in an extreme way, even tho you have done everything for them. It just wrecks you on the inside. Being insulted doesn't help either.

I have to say one thing tho;

I'm tired of parent using this line " Back in my day..."

That is not a good excuse. Who gives a shit really? The further back you go in time, the harder shit was. Back in my great great great great great great great great great grandfather's day, they didn't have ANY of the shit you had. My own mother, had to run away from her village before it was invaded. She grabbed some clothes, some food, jumped on a horse and ran away. She crossed the mountains and shit alone. She has never once said "You are so lazy, back in my day I had to hike through deadly mountains, while running away from people who killed half of my village, and raped the other half".

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All he was saying was that he had to work a fuckload more at her age currently, than she will ever in her life. Thus, her asking for money for her (very limited) chores is dumb.
 
I love this and approve.

I have a bratty 15 year old myself who is disrespectful. The stuff I've seen her post on Facebook and twitter has me sitting around fantasizing about the day I get fed up and all the different ways I can destroy her phone while she sits there and watches.
 
Kraftwerk said:
Having helped raise my little sister I can understand what he did. It is very disappointing when a child rebels against you in an extreme way, even tho you have done everything for them. It just wrecks you on the inside. Being insulted doesn't help either.

I have to say one thing tho;

I'm tired of parent using this line " Back in my day..."

That is not a good excuse. Who gives a shit really? The further back you go in time, the harder shit was. Back in my great great great great great great great great great grandfather's day, they didn't have ANY of the shit you had. My own mother, had to run away from her village before it was invaded. She grabbed some clothes, some food, jumped on a horse and ran away. She crossed the mountains and shit alone. She has never once said "You are so lazy, back in my day I had to hike through deadly mountains, while running away from people who killed half of my village, and raped the other half".

/rant
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I don't know, I think it is a good excuse. Complaining about little stuff like chores (and having the nerve to tell your parents to do it themselves) is really insulting to someone who had to go through much harder. I can see where that line comes from.
 
since when did GAF go soft on entitled bitching kids. She deserved and the dads a hero. People do worse things to their parents. This was epic
 
maniac-kun said:
He did just not shoot it. He used a special type of ammunition (Exploding Hollow Point Bullets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XcVc_0ykU) and emptied his whole magazine into the thing.
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Do you have some sort of gun phobia that you're taking this to such ridiculous levels? Seriously, are you part of some anti-gun advocacy group? Are you getting paid for this? No matter how hard you argue, there's no logical claim that he was threatening his daughter with a gun. Read my previous post to see how ridiculous such a claim sounds
 
eso76 said:
No. If it's premeditated it's not a mistake, as in "one incident".
It obviously wasn't a mistake according to him, since It's not something he did when he was out of his mind, it's something he put all his worthless thought in and did in "cold blood" so to say.
You bet it was a mistake in parenting, what i mean is it certainly wasn't unintentional and that says a lot about this guy.
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1. An error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness.
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His mistake is the first case. Yours is the second.
 
TheYanger said:
Some of Gaf is way too sensitive. He used a gun on her laptop, in a field, and taped it. she was nowhere there. He did not THREATEN his child with a gun. Not even close. This is tame as fuck, his daughter sounds like a piece of shit.
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I think you mean MOST there. Unless they are the vocal minority....
 
I hate spoiled kids who don't appreciate anything with a passion. Those kids need to be taught a lesson and parents need to stop being such pushovers, giving them everything they cry for. The gun may have been overboard because I'm not sure how safe unloading a 45 is in your front yard is (though it looks like a big farm but regardless) but I'm all for smashing the laptop on the ground infront of her. Big fan of tough love. Its whats necessary when you have whiny little shit kids like he seems to have.
 
Daughter sounds like as much a brat as the father comes off an uptight prick. And hiring a cleaning lady (or whatever you want to call her) is a great way to instil responsibility.
 
mxgt said:
What because I wouldn't publically humiliate my kid?

Apart from that the punishment is fine though
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He posted this video originally on her Facebook wall. The idea was that everyone who looked on her wall and saw her post complaining about her parents could see his response.

From the looks of it, it's not like he made the video with the intention to go all over the internet.

Also, she publically humiliated her father (multiple times, as he said in the video) on Facebook, and is just a general brat (that seems to be majorly understating it), so he felt this was the way to respond. I honestly don't see a problem with it. Who cares if he's acting on her level? It seems that it finally got to her this way, and for that I'm glad.

The father's update, from the last page

For those that wondered, commented, criticized, and just in general wanted to know:
My daughter came through it fine.

Yes, she's in trouble, and yes she's grounded, but that doesn't mean every moment of her life has to be miserable. She's going to come to terms with the changes that will be present for a while; no TV privileges, no Internet, etc.

In the meantime, once the initial anger passed, she sat with me reviewing some of the comments that have come in via Facebook and YouTube. One person even suggested collecting the shell casings and auctioning them on eBay. I said I’d do it if it would help contribute to her college fund! When I told her about it, she thought a minute, got a funny calculating expression on her face and said, “in that case you should shoot my phone too. We can use more bullets and I’ll go half-sies with ya on it! It’s not like I’m going to need it any time soon. And I can use the money we get to buy a new one.”

While the whole point of this story isn’t funny, what is funny to me is how weak some people out there think kids are. Our kids are as strong as we help them to be. My daughter took a horrible day in her life, had her crying fit, then got over it, accepted her punishment, and hasn’t let it (or people’s comments) destroy her strength. I don’t get any credit for that. She’s strong and able to overcome almost anything life throws at her.

Since this unsuspectingly threw her into the limelight much more strongly than either of us intended, I asked her if she wanted to make her own response video, and told her I’d let her do it if she wanted to. She doesn’t like being in front of the camera, so she declined, but I’ve told her if she wants to write a response or post a video response, I’d be OK with it. It’s only fair considering the viral nature of the whole thing. So far she’s not really interested. Quite frankly it seems she’s gotten bored of it much faster than the general public has. If that changes I’ll post it here.
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bill0527 said:
I love this and approve.

I have a bratty 15 year old myself who is disrespectful. The stuff I've seen her post on Facebook and twitter has me sitting around fantasizing about the day I get fed up and all the different ways I can destroy her phone while she sits there and watches.
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good god. this thread is really bringing out gaf sociopaths in droves to show solidarity. some of these responses are absolutely chilling
 
ultim8p00 said:
Yep, called it. I really hope some of you do not raise kids.
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I wouldn't go that far. This dad sent the message the best way he knew how, in a way appropriate for his culture. As long as people are clear about rules and unflinching in their administration of punishments...and as long as they don't speak in anger or hurt their children...their kids should be just fine.

Ideally, one wouldn't have to break their child's laptop because they would have engrained a good amount of discipline and behavioral expectations in them from a young age. Ideally, he would have not allowed his daughter to retain use of her facebook account the minute he found out his daughter had blocked her mother and him (or demanded unblocking as a condition of access again).

Sure there are ways to handle these things that don't resort to breaking shit up...but sometimes you might have to break something if bad behaviors have been allowed to exist and persist for too long, if only to send a clear message that such behavior will not be tolerated and that behaviors MUST change. In this example, destroying the laptop served the purposes of shocking the kid, making it clear that the parents weren't going to buy another one (so don't bother asking), and presenting the clear message that being indifferent to work is not in the cards. Not when you rant on your parents after providing things to you for free.

apocalidiot said:
He posted this video originally on her Facebook wall. The idea was that everyone who looked on her wall and saw her post complaining about her parents could see his response.

From the looks of it, it's not like he made the video with the intention to go all over the internet.

Also, she publically humiliated her father (multiple times, as he said in the video) on Facebook, and is just a general brat (that seems to be majorly understating it), so he felt this was the way to respond. I honestly don't see a problem with it. Who cares if he's acting on her level? It seems that it finally got to her this way, and for that I'm glad.

The father's update, from the last page
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Good shit right there. Haters gonna. But I bet the haters won't have more successful kids than his will be when all is said and done.
 
maniac-kun said:
He did just not shoot it. He used a special type of ammunition (Exploding Hollow Point Bullets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XcVc_0ykU) and emptied his whole magazine into the thing.
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That's still shooting a laptop. Not her. Type of bullets don't matter. The amount of bullets don't matter. He was clearly of sound mind, and his destroying her laptop (by whatever means) was clearly a display of his dominance over his household and possessions she incorrectly assumed were entitled to her.
 
gondwana said:
good god. this thread is really bringing out gaf sociopaths in droves to show solidarity. some of these responses are absolutely chilling
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These people had no preparation to raise children in modern society, and yet still had them. They probably didn't have a proper upbringing either. It is absolutely chilling, especially once you consider the psychological trauma and abuse some of these "normal" kids have to endure on a daily basis.
 
I'm shocked that someone who dresses and talks like him was so anxious to use a gun on something.

But yeah shooting everything isn't going to fix your daughter, or that little anger problem you got there.
 
The Lamp said:
Maybe it's because I live in Texas but the idea of someone being freaked out about a father owning a gun is just hilarious.
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I live in South Carolina and I own two guns.

And I'm not freaking out because the father owns a gun. I'm freaking out because making a point via shooting your daughters own laptop seems a bit over the top.

Invisible_Insane said:
How is the gun threatening over and above any of the other possible methods of destruction? Defenestration, immolation, manual destruction--if the message to be extracted from his use of the gun is that she could potentially be subject to similar violence, is that true of the other methods?
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Maybe it's because I'm a very non-agressive person and personally I don't see destruction as a good way to convey a message of love and concern.
 
apocalidiot said:
Yeah dude, that's gotta be it. You cracked the case.

Jesus christ people, you act like YOUR culture is what runs throughout the world... or rather this case, America. Just because you don't own guns and your mom would throw a shit fit if your dad brought a gun in the house, doesn't mean it's the same thing for this family. The daughter would probably call all of you pussies for freaking out so much about this. He didn't point a gun anywhere near his daughter, nor threaten her, nor anything. He shot it because that's more relevant to his interests.

If one of you guys made this video about your daughter, you'd probably take your My Little Pony dolls and attack the laptop until it broke. It's the same idea.
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Seriously. The father sounds like a stand-up dude and she took advantage of his efforts to help her out to make him sound like he's bad at what he obviously cares very much about doing right. It's easy to understand his anger. This wasn't the best way to communicate to her the gravity of the situation, but the girl clearly needs some respect for what it takes to make it in this world and what the parents are trying to teach her.
 
apocalidiot said:
All he was saying was that he had to work a fuckload more at her age currently, than she will ever in her life. Thus, her asking for money for her (very limited) chores is dumb.
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That's what I mean tho, you can't compare one situation to another.

I mean, you can't pamper your child until she is 14-15 then suddenly go " BAM! You need to be an adult now. No more money. Work work work!"

At least, that is how I see it usually. You have to gradually build them up, so it does not shock them. I experienced this personally. My life suddenly changed when I was around 15. I had been used to being pampered all the time. When reality hit me, it SUCKED. I tried to retaliate and rebelled for no reason. I guess it was fear.

As I was saying earlier, I helped raise my little sister. I haven't done a perfect job, but I am proud of her. We have had our problems, but still. I gave her things to do from an early age, since I didn't want her to suddenly break down like me, and many others. Now she is much better off.

I look at my neighbours kid. Same thing. They had to do shit, until their parents divorced. Now, being a single mom, some of them had to help her out. I remember her daughters crying and cussing at the mom when they had to find jobs. They were very afraid.

Shit sucks, but that's life. build them up from an early age.
 
gondwana said:
good god. this thread is really bringing out gaf sociopaths in droves to show solidarity. some of these responses are absolutely chilling
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This.




these are the threads that make me want to just fucking run away to a forest and build a hut an love my daughter and we can garden, love, SHOOT HER FLAPTRTEROP. cause shes a BITCH BRAT.EDIT: PS. IN WHICH SHE TALKS SHIT ABOUT ME. THE MAN.
 
Atramental said:
I live in South Carolina and I own two guns.

And I'm not freaking out because the father owns a gun. I'm freaking out because making a point via shooting your daughters own laptop seems a bit over the top.


Maybe it's because I'm a very non-agressive person and personally I don't see destruction as good way to convey a message of love and concern.
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Well he doesn't seem the brightest guy, being that shocked at a 15 year old girl getting a bit emotional.
 
What the hell, man. Why are people commending this dude? Seriously? This is just plain stupid. There's absolutely no reason to retaliate against your daughter like this. He shouldn't lower himself to her level. So childish.
 
MessieurCouchon said:
These people had no preparation to raise children in modern society, and yet still had them. They probably didn't have a proper upbringing either. It is absolutely chilling, especially once you consider the psychological trauma and abuse some of these "normal" kids have to endure on a daily basis.
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you calling the girl normal and her behavior normal? I know rebelious kids but no one ridicules their parents on facebook or public unless they have a personality flaw. thats not normal.
 
MessieurCouchon said:
So in his culture its fine to use guns as parenting tools? He is a sorry excuse for a father, no matter what culture / country you live in.
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He isn't threatening her with the actual gun. He told her several times that he was going to put a bullet through her laptop, and that basically equates to destroying an inanimate object. It would be the same thing when my parents told me that they would throw my xbox from the ceiling if I didn't do my homework. I never once thought that my parents would cause the same harm to a person, than to an inanimate object.
 
MessieurCouchon said:
So in his culture its fine to use guns as parenting tools? He is a sorry excuse for a father, no matter what culture / country you live in.
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Can you explain this HOW the gun is being used as a parenting tool? I keep seeing people spout that line and I think it's bullshit rhetoric.

"Oh GOD no he used a gun as a parenting tool? YOU MEAN HE SMACKED HER WITH A GUN?"

He destroyed her laptop. AKA he took away something you likes. It's called punishment. That's the parenting tool.

The only reasons he used a gun was because it's appropriate in his culture. I might have used a fuel efficient SUV and ran it over instead, or might have donated it to charity. The end result is the same.
 
Atramental said:
Maybe it's because I'm a very non-agressive person and personally I don't see destruction as good way to convey a message of love and concern.
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That's begging the question. Are you saying any instance of destruction is inherently threatening? If not, how is using a gun more so than any other means of destruction?
 
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