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[Alienous]

Everything other than the things I mention below I loved:

- Episode 12 had a terribly edited moment. Terrible.
- Kingpin is too ... off, too often. At first it's endearing, then after a while it becomes too much. His first rage fit over being embarrassed was great, but after that it comes across as too unstable for this dude to function. Also the voice wasn't great at times.
- The Stick episode is a momentum killer (but maybe only because of watching all the episodes in sequence).

 

[antonz]

I guess I'm alone on this, but I didn't really like this show's portrayal of Fisk. I always thought of Fisk as a confident, intimidating businessman type, but this show portrayed him as basically a big baby with no confidence who threw temper tantrums when he didn't get his way.

We aren't really seeing Kingpin yet per say. This is when he is just another mob boss among a collection of Mob Bosses. He is clearly very competent before he meets Vanessa as she drives the other bosses crazy wither distracting Fisk to the point they try to kill her.

Season 1 Fisk I feel is trying to do the right thing for the city but his upbringing and everything else has warped him to a point of anything goes to achieve that greater good. It is when everything falls apart he finally accepts fully that dark side of himself as he states in his biblical speech when he realizes he is the ill intent not the good guy who makes a bad choice

Season2 is where I think we would see straight up traditional Wilson Fisk.

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Just finished it up. Loved mostly everything. A season 2 of this can't come soon enough with more Fisk. I also think they did the flashbacks right, seeing Herc as Fisk's dad was nice.

Couple of things that annoyed me:
- The whole way Foggy was acting when he found out Matt was the masked man. Just didn't sell it enough for me and the dialog from Foggy was meh.
- When Karen spoke with Matt the morning after shooting Wesley, I thought Matt wouldve smelled the gunpowder on her hands or something. Idk why this annoyed me so much, maybe because they made his heightened senses seem so powerful, he shouldve at least got the slight hint of gunpowder from her hands. Meh, think I just settled on her just showering and scrubbing really hard. :/

 

[More_Badass]

We aren't really seeing Kingpin yet per say. This is when he is just another mob boss among a collection of Mob Bosses. He is clearly very competent before he meets Vanessa as she drives the other bosses crazy wither distracting Fisk to the point they try to kill her.

Season 1 Fisk I feel is trying to do the right thing for the city but his upbringing and everything else has warped him to a point of anything goes to achieve that greater good. It is when everything falls apart he finally accepts fully that dark side of himself as he states in his biblical speech when he realizes he is the ill intent not the good guy who makes a bad choice

Season2 is where I think we would see straight up traditional Wilson Fisk.

Yeah, the show runners always said the show was just as much an origin story for Kingpin as it was for Matt. Matt becomes Daredevil by the end, red costume and all, and Fisk accepts his nature as the "ill intent", being cruel for the sake of cruelty, by the end

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

I hope we get Bullseye next season.

And I hope they explain that "black death" kid at some point.

Also, what's the next Marvel Netflix show? Jessica Jones? And when can we expect it? I don't want to have to wait too long.

 

[antonz]

Question is will he be doing a season 2 as Fisk? I looked at his imdb he got quite a few movies lined up already.

He did just post on twitter he would love to play the role in a Spiderman movie and he stated if they do a season 2 he has lots of ideas

@vincentdonofrio · 31m31 minutes ago

Vincent D'Onofrio retweeted Grimez Four
this was origin story for Fisk/Matt . If thr is a 2nd ? I have ideas for him as THE KINGPIN but would never tell

 

[Cornballer]

Cornballer, please fix The OP that appearance list is wrong, like not even close.

You're like not even close! (Kidding, I have removed it.)

 

[xaszatm]

People get brutally killed in a lot of tv shows even on basic networks. It's still a shit rule for him not to kill. Thats why i wish this was Punisher instead of Daredevil. Since he the only person who does something about crime.



Most basic tv shows show tortue now so that doesnt surprise me one bit. I just find it hard that Punisher will ever get a tv show well any time soon. All that killing i would love to see it I'm just dont have high hopes.

The whole point behind any superhero not killing is not because of the law, or justice, or whatnot. Any superhero who struggles to kill someone is facing a personal crisis. Daredevil believes he is no different than the criminal he fights with the exception that he doesn't kill. It is how he rationalizes his darker desires and heroics. He knows that he is fully capable and even willing to fall into darkness. That he isn't strong enough to become what he hates if not for that one thing that separates him from his enemies: he doesn't kill. He starts killing, he just lost the last bastion that kept him sane.

That is why these people don't kill. It's a personal thing. And yeah, it's kind of shit, but it's much more dark than "herp derp kill everyone and eviscerate them"

 

[Trey]

Rosario Dawson was wasted in this.

 

[Brian Fellows]

The suit had no point in the show at the end. Matt wants it made cuz it could help him against Kingpin and against knives but in the end what did it do for him in the fight?

The armor on his forearms kept him from getting beaten to death.

 

[More_Badass]

The armor on his forearms kept him from getting beaten to death.

And from getting a skull fracture when Fisk smashed him in the head

 

[JC Sera]

Ok trying to look up Karen's Background on wikipedia

Realizing that Matt is incomplete without his work as a lawyer, Karen founds a free drug and legal clinic, where she counsels drug addicts and Matt provides legal advice and "ghost lawyering".[8] The clinic is destroyed during a demonic invasion of Manhattan,[9] and hours later Karen discovers that Matt has been having an affair with Typhoid Mary. These combined blows leave her psychologically lost, and she runs away.[10]

 

[kinoki]

The most absurd thing about this show is that the kill count isn't even close to Agent Carter's. This might be dark but Agent Carter is down-right brutal in its executions. The strange part is that I felt more sad seeing Wesley go than Ben or Elena. He was, by far, the most interesting character.

 

[Clevinger]

Yeah, Ben was good but I'm gonna miss Wesley and Leland more.

Every line out of Leland was gold.

 

[golem]

One of the best things about Daredevil is the small amount of people with plot armor. Every time I saw Ben and Karen out and about i felt a real possibility they'd be owned at some point or another.

 

[TheGreatDirector]

Yeah, Ben was good but I'm gonna miss Wesley and Leland more.

Every line out of Leland was gold.

Leland had brought comedic levity to every scene he was in and it was goddamn entertaining.

 

[Creamium]

Yeah, Ben was good but I'm gonna miss Wesley and Leland more.

Every line out of Leland was gold.

Yeah, he just complained about everything. Leland in every scene

 

[rexor0717]

The most absurd thing about this show is that the kill count isn't even close to Agent Carter's. This might be dark but Agent Carter is down-right brutal in its executions. The strange part is that I felt more sad seeing Wesley go than Ben or Elena. He was, by far, the most interesting character.

I don't see how thats absurd, but this show managed to make you care a lot more about its characters than any other MCU production to this point. Like you said, Wesley was a bad dude but his death was still not taken lightly. The friendship they established between Wilson and himself really elevated him past being a diabolical sidekick.

 

[Riptwo]

I liked the show and can't wait for more, but I'm shocked that they took out Urich! He's one of my favourites in the comics, and it bums me out that we won't get to see more of him in future shows.

Also, the cowl looks a little derpy, but I'll assume that Matt's fire-vision made it seem acceptable at the time.

 

[Escape Goat]

As much as I liked Ben Urich's character I am glad he died. I really hate when TV shows spend 22 episodes without taking any kind of risk with their characters. You get the illusion of change and everything ends up as it was before too long. Thats something these 13 episode mini series can do. They can cut the wasted filler and keep an eye on how everything is working together in the big picture.

 

[Musha_Soturi]

Just finished Ep 13, I really loved the series. Binge watched over a few sessions the last couple of days, but will definitely go back and re-watch at some point.

I didn't read anything about the show or watch any trailers before going in, so it was a pleasant surprise to see Jessica from True Blood, Ashton Kitcher's best mate from The Butterfly Effect and Tristan from Stardust (although amazingly it took me till episode 7 before I figured that one out).

As a fan of all the comic based TV shows and films I thought this was definitely at the top end of the scale. It was a lot darker and more gruesome than I was expecting (this is a good thing) and the fight choreography was fantastic, I loved Murdoch's fighting style (take note Roy Harper) and that hallway scene was epic, I cannot believe they filmed that in only one take.

I would have liked to see more Claire, and I wasn't a fan of the suit at first but it grew on me by the end of the final fight. By the last episode I was quite used to the black outfit though, plus it clung to his muscles very nicely. Charlie did a sterling job hitting the gym for months before filming.

 

[El Topo]

As much as I liked Ben Urich's character I am glad he died. I really hate when TV shows spend 22 episodes without taking any kind of risk with their characters. You get the illusion of change and everything ends up as it was before too long. Thats something these 13 episode mini series can do. They can cut the wasted filler and keep an eye on how everything is working together in the big picture.

It would've been weird if everyone of the good guys had survived, given their opposition.

 

[Cade]

I thought Wesley's death was unexpected. Not after he'd already kidnapped Page, but just in general.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

I fully expected either Foggy, Karen, or Ben to die. I'd have been surprised if all three had made it through the season.

 

[Mister Wilhelm]

You're right, fuck him for having an abusive father right

I mean really dude?

Yeah, because that's a perfect excuse for doing what he does.

You know, like assisting human trafficking rings that sell people to be used as slave labor and raped for the rest of their lives, selling heroin, murdering innocent people to cover up his crimes, murdering journalists to combat free speech, murdering his own men for trivial issues, bribing people to do similar things, etc.

I feel just awful for that guy.

 

[liliththepale]

I felt so dumb when I figured out Leland poisoned Vanessa. Mind you, I figured it out before the show spilled the beans, but it was pretty obvious in hindsight with his "oh noes I hope I haven't been poisoned" overreaction.

 

[dream]

Fuck, that was good. I know I'm hoping against hope, but I really don't want to see any of that movie shit seep into this series.

 

[Trey]

I felt so dumb when I figured out Leland poisoned Vanessa. Mind you, I figured it out before the show spilled the beans, but it was pretty obvious in hindsight with his "oh noes I hope I haven't been poisoned" overreaction.

It's pretty standard show stuff. Fisk told Leland to meet Gao, and we never hear or see the contents of that particular discussion. So that means it will have to bear out in the plot somehow, and lo and behold, Vanessa comes up poisoned in the very same episode Gao ominously tells Fisk that "someone will choose for him."

I actually thought it was too obvious so they were trying to throw a curveball. Also, I really liked the warden in his role as Leland. It fits so well.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Fuck, that was good. I know I'm hoping against hope, but I really don't want to see any of that movie shit seep into this series.

Just give me a Spidey cameo one episode in season three.

 

[liliththepale]

It's pretty standard show stuff. Fisk told Leland to meet Gao, and we never hear or see the contents of that particular discussion. So that means it will have to bear out in the plot somehow, and lo and behold, Vanessa comes up poisoned in the very same episode Gao ominously tells Fisk that "someone will choose for him."

I actually thought it was too obvious so they were trying to throw a curveball. Also, I really liked the warden in his role as Leland. It fits so well.

Yeah. I'm just kicking myself for not seeing it sooner.

 

[More_Badass]

Could the grapple hook cane work on the show without looking silly?

 

[Cade]

Could the grapple hook cane work on the show without looking silly?

I kept hoping he'd use it but he didn't. I think you can do it in a way that makes it look realistic, but it might be difficult

 

[xaszatm]

Fuck, that was good. I know I'm hoping against hope, but I really don't want to see any of that movie shit seep into this series.

I think there's enough there with all four series to keep continuity within itself. Maybe some SHIELD stuff at best. The movies are kind of too "large scale" to be focusing on one element.

 

[rexor0717]

Could the grapple hook cane work on the show without looking silly?

There were a lot of practical stunts here, so unless they can make it work IRL I doubt we'll see it. CG acrobatic DD doesn't really sound like something I'd want.

 

[More_Badass]

I think there's enough there with all four series to keep continuity within itself. Maybe some SHIELD stuff at best. The movies are kind of too "large scale" to be focusing on one element.

If anything, I imagine any connection to the movies outside of Civil War would be slight. Like how the Battle of New York is a background event and only mentioned in passing.

 

[Escape Goat]

I wonder if Matt goes back to pick up all of his canes he throws away when hes in a hurry.

 

[More_Badass]

There were a lot of practical stunts here, so unless they can make it work IRL I doubt we'll see it. CG acrobatic DD doesn't really sound like something I'd want.

The rooftop parkour scene was cool. Maybe instead of a grapple hook, his cane could extend to perform pole vaults across larger gaps or something like that.

I could see a shorter cable/chain working though. He could use the cane like a nunchuck or tangle up the knife hand of an attacker

 

[xaszatm]

If anything, I imagine any connection to the movies outside of Civil War would be slight. Like how the Battle of New York is a background event and only mentioned in passing.

Well, I feel that the movies will have an impact but we won't see Iron Man talking to Daredevil for instance (though Black Widow would be interesting to say the least given their comic book history). Like how the invasion is used to make Hell's Kitchen the crime ridden despot it was in the comics instead of the highly respectable and gentrified neighborhood it is today.

 

[LyleLanley]

Fuck, that was good. I know I'm hoping against hope, but I really don't want to see any of that movie shit seep into this series.

I just finished the show and I agree. The show was great and I want it to stay as far away from the rest of Marvels lineup as it can.

 

[Rhaknar]

Wheres my "Gao knocks DD the fuck away with a palm strike" gifs damn it

 

[hammertomb]

Anyone else expecting for kingpin to wear a fedora next season?

 

[Cade]

Anyone else expecting for kingpin to wear a fedora next season?

W...why?

 

[The Cowboy]

Wheres my "Gao knocks DD the fuck away with a palm strike" gifs damn it

Which episode was it in? (i forget).

Edit.
Never mind, got it now.

 

[Barzul]

Just finished. Incredible work. Best Marvel TV show by a landslide. Can't wait to see how Netflix handles the others.

 

[hammertomb]

W...why?

His personality calls for it.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I absolutely loved the series. They absolutely nailed Daredevil. I cannot wait for a Season 2.

- Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio nailed their respective roles. Cox was great as Murdock and as Daredevil, he really did inhabit the character and get that moral conflict and rage across really well. Loved D'Onofrio, his weirdly socially awkward way of being, and his rise and fall. Him and Vanessa was a really interesting side plot. The rest of the cast did great as well. Liked Foggy and Karen.

- I was pretty devastated about Ben biting it. Really thought he'd pull through and become an ally in Season 2. It was really gutsy killing him. Same with Mrs. Cardena. Wesley was great too, I liked that he and the Kingpin were genuine friends.

- Was hoping Matt and Claire would become a thing, but it was pretty realistic why it wouldn't happen, Matt's gonna Matt.

- Same with Karen and Foggy, but if they try to push Karen and Matt together (which I hope they don't, I don't think there's as much chemistry there), at least Foggy still has that other smoking hot demanding lawyer.

- Loved the Red Suit at the end. When I saw the initial picture, I really disliked it, it left no impression, but it actually looks fantastic in motion. I really dig it as is, cause it does just look like decent body armour. Need some GIFs.

- Fighting and cinematography were aces.

- Best thing the MCU has done to date. Absolutely cannot wait for Jessica Jones now.

- I guess the loose plot threads will be likely resolved in Iron Fist and Daredevil Season 2. Fisk's trial, Leland's son, Madame Gao (Iron Fist, right?), whatever Stick is up to, The Hand and the Black Sky, Karen's secrets, etc. I wonder what's gonna happen to Karen with her guilt about Ben, Wesley, and her past secrets.

 

[luknotluck]

I hope we see the two overlapping D's in season 2 or in the Defenders.

 

[Escape Goat]

I hope we see the two overlapping D's in season 2 or in the Defenders.

I love seeing overlapping Ds...

 

[More_Badass]

I absolutely loved the series. They absolutely nailed Daredevil. I cannot wait for a Season 2.

- Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio nailed their respective roles. Cox was great as Murdock and as Daredevil, he really did inhabit the character and get that moral conflict and rage across really well. Loved D'Onofrio, his weirdly socially awkward way of being, and his rise and fall. Him and Vanessa was a really interesting side plot. The rest of the cast did great as well. Liked Foggy and Karen.

- I was pretty devastated about Ben biting it. Really thought he'd pull through and become an ally in Season 2. It was really gutsy killing him. Same with Mrs. Cardena. Wesley was great too, I liked that he and the Kingpin were genuine friends.

- Was hoping Matt and Claire would become a thing, but it was pretty realistic why it wouldn't happen, Matt's gonna Matt.

- Same with Karen and Foggy, but if they try to push Karen and Matt together (which I hope they don't, I don't think there's as much chemistry there), at least Foggy still has that other smoking hot demanding lawyer.

- Loved the Red Suit at the end. When I saw the initial picture, I really disliked it, it left no impression, but it actually looks fantastic in motion. I really dig it as is, cause it does just look like decent body armour. Need some GIFs.

- Fighting and cinematography were aces.

- Best thing the MCU has done to date. Absolutely cannot wait for Jessica Jones now.

- I guess the loose plot threads will be likely resolved in Iron Fist and Daredevil Season 2. Fisk's trial, Leland's son, Madame Gao (Iron Fist, right?), whatever Stick is up to, The Hand and the Black Sky, Karen's secrets, etc. I wonder what's gonna happen to Karen with her guilt about Ben, Wesley, and her past secrets.

Gao is definitely going to be a big part of Iron Fist

Symbol of the Steel Serpent, one of Iron Fist's enemies.

 

[The Cowboy]

Wheres my "Gao knocks DD the fuck away with a palm strike" gifs damn it

Ask and you shall receive.

Shorter version.