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Daredevil on Netflix *SPOILER THREAD* |OT|
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Just finished the series and I think it's fantastic. I've never given a damn for the Marvel universe before but there's something about the realism (not the best descriptor but will have to do) that really seals the deal for me.
If I were to venture further into MCU and this franchise (DD comics) where would I start?
If I were to venture further into MCU and this franchise (DD comics) where would I start?
Finished the season last night. Everyone's right that the finale ep feels weird.
I guess I basically liked it. Some cool fight / parkour choreography, some good acting, nice cinematography and style throughout.
But like. They squandered the shit out of the premise. Daredevil being blind basically never matters at all? The fights are cool fights but they're not cool *blind* fights. He parkours in exactly the same way a sighted hero would parkour. When he tracks Gou's (spelling?) car by the sound of her music, he might as well have just tracked her by the sight of the car. I dunno, I don't want them to get hinky with it, having people attack him with blowhorns every time or whatever, but do *something* with the blindness. I want Daredevil fights to be more puzzle game than action game. It gets cheesy if you overuse them but boy should be killing lights and fighting in mirror factories and deploying smoke and bad guys should be giving themselves away with sneezes and shit. Rag on that Affleck movie all day every day but the sonar-seeing-in-the-rain thing was a cool concept. Our Daredevil here basically just has perfect echolocation -- to the point of premonition -- that he doesn't even have to click for.
And they've blown it on the lawyer end, too. There was basically one notable courtroom scene, with Matt's closing argument, and then a bunch of jokes about not having clients. They may as well have been private investigators. The Big Legal Action of the series is carried out by that once-noble-now-bimbo lady entirely off screen.
If someone asks you to describe Daredevil, the one-sentence synopsis is "he's a blind lawyer with superhuman senses who fights street-level crime". The show doesn't really care about his blindness, doesn't really care about his lawyerness. He should win *because* he's blind, not just *while* he's blind. Likewise being a lawyer.
I read Daredevil: Yellow once upon a time and liked it but I've totally forgotten the plot and how / if it relates to this show. I think it's a good standalone Daredevil miniseries kinda book.
If you want not-super-goofy MCU the right movies are probably Iron Man and the second Captain America. Definitely skip Agents of SHIELD.
I guess I basically liked it. Some cool fight / parkour choreography, some good acting, nice cinematography and style throughout.
But like. They squandered the shit out of the premise. Daredevil being blind basically never matters at all? The fights are cool fights but they're not cool *blind* fights. He parkours in exactly the same way a sighted hero would parkour. When he tracks Gou's (spelling?) car by the sound of her music, he might as well have just tracked her by the sight of the car. I dunno, I don't want them to get hinky with it, having people attack him with blowhorns every time or whatever, but do *something* with the blindness. I want Daredevil fights to be more puzzle game than action game. It gets cheesy if you overuse them but boy should be killing lights and fighting in mirror factories and deploying smoke and bad guys should be giving themselves away with sneezes and shit. Rag on that Affleck movie all day every day but the sonar-seeing-in-the-rain thing was a cool concept. Our Daredevil here basically just has perfect echolocation -- to the point of premonition -- that he doesn't even have to click for.
And they've blown it on the lawyer end, too. There was basically one notable courtroom scene, with Matt's closing argument, and then a bunch of jokes about not having clients. They may as well have been private investigators. The Big Legal Action of the series is carried out by that once-noble-now-bimbo lady entirely off screen.
If someone asks you to describe Daredevil, the one-sentence synopsis is "he's a blind lawyer with superhuman senses who fights street-level crime". The show doesn't really care about his blindness, doesn't really care about his lawyerness. He should win *because* he's blind, not just *while* he's blind. Likewise being a lawyer.
I read Daredevil: Yellow once upon a time and liked it but I've totally forgotten the plot and how / if it relates to this show. I think it's a good standalone Daredevil miniseries kinda book.
If you want not-super-goofy MCU the right movies are probably Iron Man and the second Captain America. Definitely skip Agents of SHIELD.
MetalFearSolid
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So just finished the series, it was alright but I didn't like how they killed off Wesley. I mean having Karen reach across the table grab the weapon. Wesley brought a great dynamic alongside Fisk seemed like the brains of the operation. The new costume was great, perfect way to introduce it. Fisk, character development/background was so well done with the white paintings, wall and everything.
Good season nonetheless, show is better than The Arrow and Flash in my opinion.
Good season nonetheless, show is better than The Arrow and Flash in my opinion.
You are not expected to forget it, it is the point.
How he goes from his "justice" to actual justice and not being the bad guy.
He even outright says so two 3rds through the movie ...
nintendork666
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Affeinvasion
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Don't know if this was posted in this thread already, but it has a bunch of references I completely missed like Stiltman's legs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY0UdD-d3VU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY0UdD-d3VU
More_Badass
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Season 2 confirmed, woohoo!
BlastProcessing
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Season 2 confirmed, woohoo!
Here's an Entertainment Weekly link.
As an old Buffy fan, it's neat to see all these familiar names.
CaptainofIndustry
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petethepanda
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Finished ep12, I was worried that was coming. First time I've been really frustrated with the show. This and The 100 seem to be the beginning of a weird trend of shows that should have actually had full 20-some ep seasons instead of the almost always better 13ish. Moving too fast, quickly closing off threads that still had lots of potential.
Anyway. On to the last.
Edit: Man, disappointing final episode. Season kind of fizzled out towards the end.
Anyway. On to the last.
Edit: Man, disappointing final episode. Season kind of fizzled out towards the end.
It's going to be ok.
Socially awkward Kingpin is more interesting, but there's something off about it. He always looks so sad.
And I'm not a big fan of Karen. She doesn't seem to have any common sense and keeps putting herself in hilariously dangerous positions because of how naive she is. She's been spouting off the same "We should do something about this!" throughout the season, but never seems to offer a good plan. All of her plans are risky and stupid and she's liable to get Foggy and Ben killed.
And I'm not a big fan of Karen. She doesn't seem to have any common sense and keeps putting herself in hilariously dangerous positions because of how naive she is. She's been spouting off the same "We should do something about this!" throughout the season, but never seems to offer a good plan. All of her plans are risky and stupid and she's liable to get Foggy and Ben killed.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
The middle drags a bit and parts of the last episode are some cornball Arrow level shit but overall the show was ok. It started stronger than it finished.
Iron Fist or bust.
Iron Fist or bust.
I think the issue I have with the cowl are the sewn area around the eys. It makes a triangle shape pointing up which reminds me of these girls that draws their eyebrows really high lol. Also, lose the nose cover.
The body suit is fine, although the black kinda reminds me of Deadpool. Just give me something simple like this all around.
The body suit is fine, although the black kinda reminds me of Deadpool. Just give me something simple like this all around.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Wasn't a DD fan, but I liked the show quite a bit. Actually now that I finished watching this, I'm more interested in Iron Fist. haha
I liked Matt and Foggy. I wish there were more scenes with Claire! Karen is all right, but I'd prefer if the avocados didn't go down the romantic route with her.
I'll miss Ben.. Wesley too. Fisk was hit or miss (pls no more foreign languages from him). Stick and Madame Gao were pretty cool.
Oh and the costume was kinda lame.
I liked Matt and Foggy. I wish there were more scenes with Claire! Karen is all right, but I'd prefer if the avocados didn't go down the romantic route with her.
I'll miss Ben.. Wesley too. Fisk was hit or miss (pls no more foreign languages from him). Stick and Madame Gao were pretty cool.
Oh and the costume was kinda lame.
What about the Brubaker collection run and any other reccomendations?
EndcatOmega
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Miller, Bendis->Brubaker are the usual recommendations. Waid's current run is decent as well, but a little less grim than the others.
More_Badass
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Based on the few volumes I've read, "a little less grim" is an understatement
Based on the few volumes I've read, "a little less grim" is an understatement
I get 60's glorious camp vibes from the cover of Waid's run.
Battersea Power Station
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Wow, I just recognized Will Forte as Abe. Never knew that. Also... Weeeesleeey. Hehe.
ISWThunder
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I'd love for him to drop a "1 out of 5" at some point.
Overall loved the series. I agree with the general consensus that the helmet/cowl sucked on the final costume.
My biggest problem with the series was the "simple" tailor character. So strange and unnecessary. Is that from the comic? I've only read the smith and Bendis run.
My biggest problem with the series was the "simple" tailor character. So strange and unnecessary. Is that from the comic? I've only read the smith and Bendis run.
Not just a mighty duck but the big tough guy mighty duck, crazy.
I don't speak a word of Chinese but have watched alot of films and just hear people IRL speaking it and I could instantly tell Vincent's Chinese is terrible. Put me down for liking Afflecks DD Costume better. The cowl and black ruin Cox's version of it.
Amazing show though, can't wait to season 2!
Amazing show though, can't wait to season 2!
Hours Left
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Just finished this last night. Really enjoyed it a lot. Let's get all the standard stuff out of the way; Whoa it's violent for the MCU, the new costume at the end kinda sucked, Charlie Cox is amazing, why kill off Ben and Wesley, when does Jessica Jones/S2 start, etc, etc.
Cornballer
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We're past the spoiler embargo in the OT, so we're going to lock this thread up and move discussion back over there. Thanks for adhering to the rules, and let us know via PM if you have any comments on the use of a spoiler thread this time around for a Netflix show.
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