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Daredevil S3 Netflix teaser. Season looks to be inspired by Fall from Grace possibly.

TheSadRanger

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I'VE WAITED TWO FREAKING YEARS FOR THIS. After putting up with Iron Fist, Defenders and all that other stuff we finally get Daredevil back!!

Foggy hitting way above his league.

Comic spoilers
will Karen become a heroin addict and suffer from her fate in the comics?

TUUURRRRKKKK.

 
Can't wait.

Daredevil and Punisher are the only ones out of Marvel's TV universe that's worth watching at all.

Defenders was so bad, but Charlie Cox still managed to shine.
 
One subplot is going to inevitably involve Turk using Matt Murdock as his lawyer to sue Daredevil for the chronic case of arthritis in his hands.
 
WHAT THE FUCK

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Marvel TV would never do that to a female character especially not with the feminist approach they've taken to her character since season 2.
 
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Karen not only becomes a prostitute, she also gets hooked on heroine and ends ups selling Daredevils identity to the Kingpin just to get another dose.

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Born Again is a goddamn masterpiece.

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I've watched the first 5 episodes and it's... okay, I guess. I can already tell they've spread themselves too thin over 13 episodes - 10 should be more then enough for these kind of shows.

Was hyped for the return of the Fisk (his S1 portrayal is still one of the best bad guys in the entire Marvel movie & tv production) but he's mostly just sitting there for almost half of season now - yeah, plotting, sure, but they wrote themselves into this long game of him setting himself free that just feels like wasted time to me.

FBI agent character isn't grabbing me at all (he's supposed to be sympathetic but I'm finding him more and more annoying to watch), while Pointdexter's characterization and slow transformation into Bullseye is just okay, nothing to write home about. Some cool fights again though, but that's no surprise.

Hopefully it picks up soon - especially on the Fisk's front, which was the backbone of S1 awesomeness.
 
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brian0057 said:
Give me Born Again/Guardian Devil or give me death.
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Well... you kind of get Born Again here.

Back during preproduction of the show, a showrunner came into the comic store which I was at. I helped him pick up the essential Daredevil graphic novels. Born Again was the first book I recommended, and one of many he bought that day. So in closing, you're welcome.

I'm the reason this show is awesome. /s
 
I´ve watched the first 3 episodes and it feels like basically nothing has happened. I don´t know why they insist on a 13 episode order every season if they just end up having to stretch it out every time.
 
Guys episode 6 is really really good.

No wonder they gave the critics eps 1-6....after viewing ep 6 you have this feeling of "Damn...and I thought season 1 and 2 had me on the edge of my seat"

Now I am worried that eps 7 - 13 will go the way of season 2 where the 2nd half of the show went downhill...fingers crossed.
 
I binged the shit out of this.

Huge step up over S2 (especially the back half of S2), and seems like they toned down his power scale enough by taking away his body armour that hes struggling to fight 2 or 3 guys at the same time which makes things way more interesting than beating the shit out of legions of undead hand ninjas solo.

It felt mostly filler free, but theres a long flashback to Karen Pages early life that I really didn't give a shit about, but thats probably the lowest it gets.
 
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but theres a long flashback to Karen Pages early life that I really didn't give a shit about
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Haven't watched this yet but I got seriously fed up up with the other Netflix Marvel shows constantly cutting to other characters doing boring shit rather than the hero they're meant to be about. It started with Iron Fist with Colleen where it really was the worst, felt like all Rand did was sit around and moan whilst Colleen got all of the fight scenes. Then in Luke Cage S2 it was Misty Knight who ate up a load of screen time and when it wasn't Misty it was Tilda or Mariah. In Punisher it was Dinah who we were forced to watch not murder people. It would make sense that the new season of Daredevil kept this crap up and kept cutting to Karen but from what I've heard that isn't the case.

Oddly enough Jessica Jones, whilst cutting to other characters never feels like any of them are eating the main character's screen time like the others.
 
Alright I´m halfway through now and it got way better but I really can´t stand Karen. Feels like every scene she´s in is just a bunch of arguing/crying/yelling/being overly emotional about everything. It kinda becomes hard to take her seriously when it looks like she´s on the verge of tears in every god damn scene.

I like the actor playing Poindexter though and the action scenes have been great too. Hopefully they stick the landing.
 
Episode 4 is good. Just starting episode 5.

I do have one gnawing hang-up:

How can understandable debt be something the FBI really REALLY cares about but a history of borderline personality disorder and sociopathy barely bother the FBI? It's tough for me to believe both. It feels like Poindexter's issue would have kicked him out by now.
 
Geki-D said:
Haven't watched this yet but I got seriously fed up up with the other Netflix Marvel shows constantly cutting to other characters doing boring shit rather than the hero they're meant to be about. It started with Iron Fist with Colleen where it really was the worst, felt like all Rand did was sit around and moan whilst Colleen got all of the fight scenes. Then in Luke Cage S2 it was Misty Knight who ate up a load of screen time and when it wasn't Misty it was Tilda or Mariah. In Punisher it was Dinah who we were forced to watch not murder people. It would make sense that the new season of Daredevil kept this crap up and kept cutting to Karen but from what I've heard that isn't the case.

Oddly enough Jessica Jones, whilst cutting to other characters never feels like any of them are eating the main character's screen time like the others.
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It's almost like they purposely insert insufferable supporting characters and side plots to make the main story and protagonist look cooler....

upon rewatch it just makes me skip so many scenes.
 
Pumpkin Seeds said:
How can understandable debt be something the FBI really REALLY cares about but a history of borderline personality disorder and sociopathy barely bother the FBI? It's tough for me to believe both. It feels like Poindexter's issue would have kicked him out by now.
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His killing a dude as a kid would have been sealed so they wouldn't have seen it (if it even made it to having a record, as it appeared accidental), and his psychologist basically 'fixed' him by teaching him how to hide what he really is and act like a normal person.

His resume would have been care -> army -> feds, with a side order of volunteer work at a suicide prevention center for personal life, and a carefully coached response as to what he 'should' say for any psych evals.

I mean, its basically Dexter the TV series, even to the on-the-nose point that everyone around him calls him Dex. Except it wasn't his cop dad who 'fixed' him and gave him a code to live by, it was a psychologist.
 
I don´t really know what the comic book origins of daredevil are but the self-righteous "no killing" attitude is starting to get old for me. Comically evil super-villain holds entire city hostage under his criminal enterprise, sending maniacs to murder innocent people and violently beating to death everyone who looks at him the wrong way. He is totally above the law and corrupts whoever he can and murders whoever he can´t and keeps trying to kill everyone I know, but we can´t kill him because that would advance the story. Come on.

Foggy just said that nobody is above the law and the only thing that could take down a guy like Fisk is the law. Has he been asleep through the entire season?
 
Secret_Lover said:
I don´t really know what the comic book origins of daredevil are but the self-righteous "no killing" attitude is starting to get old for me. Comically evil super-villain holds entire city hostage under his criminal enterprise, sending maniacs to murder innocent people and violently beating to death everyone who looks at him the wrong way. He is totally above the law and corrupts whoever he can and murders whoever he can´t and keeps trying to kill everyone I know, but we can´t kill him because that would advance the story. Come on.

Foggy just said that nobody is above the law and the only thing that could take down a guy like Fisk is the law. Has he been asleep through the entire season?
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It's why I like MCU Cap. He is a good man who has no issues killing for the greater good.

It's why Nolan's Batman started getting on my nerves. For fuck's sake kill the Joker.

When the NYPD commissioner said "oh please STFU" to Foggy it was so refreshing...felt like he was speaking for the audience.

The only thing that made it work for me this time was that.....Matt realized Fisk wanted it.

 
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I'm on episode 8 now, and I have to say I am REALLY enjoying this season! I was prepared to feel disappointed, but color me surprised. Fights have been entertaining, plot has been moving steadily and I've really liked it. Episode 6 had my jaw down, was really unexpected, gritty and awesome. I can only watch a couple episodes a night, can't have this on in front of the kiddos, but pretty excited to see where it goes and I really hope they stick the ending.
 
Yea, some of this stuff seems laughably inconsistent. Like, these characters just had a big conversation about the sanctity of life and how killing a person is the absolute worst thing imaginable, and then in literally the next scene
FBI guy shoots a bunch of no-name henchmen and nobody cares. So is he now an irredeemable bad guy because he killed in self-defense or was all that grand standing earlier just a load of horseshit.
 
I'm on episode 9 so far and this certainly has to be the best season yet. These shows always start on a slow-burn but then really amps up, tying in all the small asides that you think were irrelevent. Season 2 took a hit with Elektra and the Hand but was saved overall by also being Season 0 of The Punisher.
 
It sure was convenient the bad guy's fixer decided to keep that certain body on ice for someone else to find.

I enjoyed this season a lot, but it could have been a little quicker in the setup and a little slower with its conclusion.
 
Those of you going "man, I don't get why DD doesn't just straight up murder folks"... were you even paying attention to this season?
Bullseye puts on a DD suit and goes around killing people and the entire city is on heightened alert to take him out

MC Safety said:
It sure was convenient the bad guy's fixer decided to keep that certain body on ice for someone else to find.
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I think it was internally consistent; that dudes job was leverage on people, makes sense for him to have some leverage of his own, even just for some job security later down the line.
And by 'job security' I mean not having Fisk slamming his head to fucking pieces in a car door or in the back of a car with his head wrapped up in his own jacket.
 
LordRaptor said:
Those of you going "man, I don't get why DD doesn't just straight up murder folks"... were you even paying attention to this season?
Bullseye puts on a DD suit and goes around killing people and the entire city is on heightened alert to take him out


I think it was internally consistent; that dudes job was leverage on people, makes sense for him to have some leverage of his own, even just for some job security later down the line.
And by 'job security' I mean not having Fisk slamming his head to fucking pieces in a car door or in the back of a car with his head wrapped up in his own jacket.
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I don't buy that at all. There's fixing and there's creating problems, and this dude created a whopper. Also, leverage can be applied without having a corpse locker.
 
LordRaptor said:
Those of you going "man, I don't get why DD doesn't just straight up murder folks"... were you even paying attention to this season?
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But in episode 12
he straight up murders folks when they are under attack in the van and Matt instructs FBI guy where to shoot the bad guys through the wall. Unless there´s some kind of ridiculous catholic loophole that its not ok to kill people but its ok to tell a guy with a gun "hey kill those fucking guys".
I would have thought we´d grown out of the "kill the no-name henchmen, dont kill the big bad" trope by now.
 
Pretty much every court on the planet draws a distinction between "killing a guy who is actively shooting at you in an attempt to kill you" and "go off and kill someone after planning how you're going to go off and kill them"
 
Just finished the season and I can't wait for the next one. The ensemble cast plays well with each other and their tied subplots relative to their overall big picture.
 
Atrus said:
Just finished the season and I can't wait for the next one. The ensemble cast plays well with each other and their tied subplots relative to their overall big picture.
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That's good to hear, Im about 5 episodes in. Not liking where Foggy is going. Loving where Matt is going. Karen is Karen.
 
I loved the season, but I'm more than a little disappointed that something didn't play out like I had hoped due to the story arch it's based on 😡
 
Secret_Lover said:
But in episode 12
he straight up murders folks when they are under attack in the van and Matt instructs FBI guy where to shoot the bad guys through the wall. Unless there´s some kind of ridiculous catholic loophole that its not ok to kill people but its ok to tell a guy with a gun "hey kill those fucking guys".
I would have thought we´d grown out of the "kill the no-name henchmen, dont kill the big bad" trope by now.
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Yeah that was a bit...inconsistent now that I think about it.

Best reason I can come up with is it was closer to self-defense in that they were dead men if caught.
 
Finished it. Thought it was solid overall but not as good as season 2 for Punisher reasons. I feel like Matt didn´t get enough screen time in his own show and I had to sit through too much of Karen and Foggy´s estrogen adventures but overall it managed to keep me entertained. I know he has his own show now but I still really hope they manage to reel Punisher back into this series since he provides such a great contrast to DD.

I´m surprised I actually liked the way the final confrontation ended.
I´m typically not a fan of no-kill policies but the way DD told Fisk to get bent was pretty great and well acted.
 
Secret_Lover said:
Finished it. Thought it was solid overall but not as good as season 2 for Punisher reasons. I feel like Matt didn´t get enough screen time in his own show and I had to sit through too much of Karen and Foggy´s estrogen adventures but overall it managed to keep me entertained. I know he has his own show now but I still really hope they manage to reel Punisher back into this series since he provides such a great contrast to DD.

I´m surprised I actually liked the way the final confrontation ended.
I´m typically not a fan of no-kill policies but the way DD told Fisk to get bent was pretty great and well acted.
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I finished it last night too, and while I definitely liked the season overall I think the ending fell a little flat for me. It definitely felt rushed, and the plot kinda fell apart on me. Spoiler for last episode:

Like, Matt didn't know that video was going to circulate, so wtf was his plan with regard to Fisk? Get in his penthouse, beat the shit out of him then leave? The only reason it worked at all was the video and Fisk getting arrested due to it. Otherwise, Matt would've had 0 leverage. It was clear Matt didn't intend to kill him from the getgo, since right away he was protecting Fisk from Dex. I just don't think the writers really put enough thought into this, it could've used one more episode here to set things up better for the finale. All that said, the emotional beats this season were really good. I cried a bit for Karen's brother, the preacher and Nadeem. I was certain Maggie was gonna bite it too. I thought maybe Maggie was going to be murdered and it'd drive Matt over the edge to kill Dex or something. Good season, hope we get a fourth one without having to pay for a Disney streaming service :)
 
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Secret_Lover said:
I don´t really know what the comic book origins of daredevil are but the self-righteous "no killing" attitude is starting to get old for me. Comically evil super-villain holds entire city hostage under his criminal enterprise, sending maniacs to murder innocent people and violently beating to death everyone who looks at him the wrong way. He is totally above the law and corrupts whoever he can and murders whoever he can´t and keeps trying to kill everyone I know, but we can´t kill him because that would advance the story. Come on.

Foggy just said that nobody is above the law and the only thing that could take down a guy like Fisk is the law. Has he been asleep through the entire season?
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I think the must no kill rule is an exercise in the character's narcissim. Which doesn't even hold water if you think about it too much,. I get it Daredevil you don't kill but what do you call telling that agent to fire through the van into those criminals.Doesn't count he didn't pull the trigger he only told him where to shoot.
 
Bleepey said:
I think the must no kill rule is an exercise in the character's narcissim. Which doesn't even hold water if you think about it too much,. I get it Daredevil you don't kill but what do you call telling that agent to fire through the van into those criminals.Doesn't count he didn't pull the trigger he only told him where to shoot.
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*Sigh* killing in self defense is not the same as killing for pleasure or revenge. Which is what was driving Matt to kill Fisk. As Foggy said "pre mediated murder is not self defense"

We had this conversation last season. Daredevil believes in redemption, not killing for the sake of the cause or killing to circumvent the law's failure. If that was the case he might as well be the punisher, or even Bullseye to a extent.
 
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