MrPink93485
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Dark Shadows |OT| (Depp, Eva Green) Dir: Tim Burton
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Caterina Murino or something like that.
SCULLIBUNDO
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You are well mad.
I'll give you those, especially the second, but otherwise she looks sort of strange to me. Her eyes, lips, facial structure, just sort of strikes me as.. misplaced. Oh well.
Let's talk more about how much this movie will suck. Speaking of, is Dark Shadows available on DVD? I'm interested in seeing the original series.
PhoncipleBone
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Just Google "Eva Green Dreamers" with safe search off. Everything is in its right place. There is not much left to the imagination after that.
Krauser Kat
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fuuuuck. edgar write hyping dark shadows... I might have to see it.
Speedymanic
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Heh, bitter much? lol.
It would be a huge upset. a huge upset.
Nothing against Dark Shadows but I never even imagined it would do something like this. Like Novid said above.
Speedymanic
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Depp is very popular abroad, shouldn't be that much of a surprise. The bigger surprise is that movie apparently isn't as bad as the trailer makes it out to be.
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Am I the only one who thinks Depp looks an awful lot like the actor who plays Simon on Misfits in this?
ITS a 1960's Soap, which wasnt the top five back then - had a run on PBS in the mid 70's - a sort of a rebirth in 90's which was hurt from the Iraq War... then came the sci-fi run in the early 2000's and now is trending higher than the Avengers in France? Crazy ass time in living in.
(Almost forgot it almost came back as a CW series in 2008 but CBS went like srly?)
Speedymanic
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Broken record, but.....dat Depp appeal.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Anton Sugar
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One of my friends recently saw this. He has actually liked ALL of Burton's films (to varying degrees), even Alice and Charlie, but he couldn't stand this one--huge disappointment.
This does not bode well.
This does not bode well.
It's mainly just that she wears weird makeup/fashion when left to her own devices. She cleans up rather well.
windowlurker
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Depp looks even more like Jack White now!
Big Baybee
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That girl from Kick Ass and Hugo is going to be a huge star down the road.
Yup. She's a tremendous talent.
Wow I felt the opposite. Would bitch at length about Alice to my friends, but really loved this. Reminded me of Beetlejuice.
Granted when it was bad, it was REALLY bad. Theres a plot thread in the ending that comes out of fucking nowhere and youre just supposed to accept it because the movie makes a "Deal with it" joke about it
I enjoyed it. Just wish I could have appreciated some of the references more, because I have not seen a single episode of the show yet you can tell a lot of things are there for no other reason than to reference plotlines or character information.
Looks fantastic, totally agree on the way it was shot. Big sections of the film are definitely paying tribute to the way the original show must have been shot and presented. Reminds me of how Spielberg shot parts of War Horse to look as if it were done on an old-style sound stage (particularly the farm sequences). I loved that.
The fish out of water stuff does go a little far.
looked pretty good, but a lot of those shots are distance shots, clearly to hide his age a bit. a lot of make-up there (maybe digital effects too?). in any case it's still amazing they could pull that off.
It won't be remembered amongst his best stuff, but I liked it a hell of a lot more than Alice in Wonderland or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
A lot of people are saying it sets up for a sequel. Honestly I don't think that was intended. I think it ended the way it did as more of a way of saying, hey, this show has a LOT of source material, and clearly there's a lot that happens after this point... we just can't show it all to you
Anyway, kind of rooting for it to bomb. Depp and Burton need to part ways. Burton needs a wake-up call because he is really coasting on little more than style for most of his work anymore. As similar as this is to Beetlejuice at times, this is no Beetlejuice. or Ed Wood, Big Fish, or even Sleepy Hollow. But I'm thankful as hell that it's no Planet of the Apes.
Looks fantastic, totally agree on the way it was shot. Big sections of the film are definitely paying tribute to the way the original show must have been shot and presented. Reminds me of how Spielberg shot parts of War Horse to look as if it were done on an old-style sound stage (particularly the farm sequences). I loved that.
The fish out of water stuff does go a little far.
Alice Cooper
It won't be remembered amongst his best stuff, but I liked it a hell of a lot more than Alice in Wonderland or Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
A lot of people are saying it sets up for a sequel. Honestly I don't think that was intended. I think it ended the way it did as more of a way of saying, hey, this show has a LOT of source material, and clearly there's a lot that happens after this point... we just can't show it all to you
Anyway, kind of rooting for it to bomb. Depp and Burton need to part ways. Burton needs a wake-up call because he is really coasting on little more than style for most of his work anymore. As similar as this is to Beetlejuice at times, this is no Beetlejuice. or Ed Wood, Big Fish, or even Sleepy Hollow. But I'm thankful as hell that it's no Planet of the Apes.
Pachterballs
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The trailer of this seems terrible. Would watch for pfeffier and jonnyleemiller but damn if it don't ... seem really bad.
Ken Masters
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I give Depp and burton credit for milking this gimmick film type for all it's worth
evilromero
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I stopped trusting RT when Hunger Games ended up with an 84% fresh rating. Wow. Boring, poorly acted and underdeveloped for the running time. I'll wait for some more word-of-mouth on this one.
Stormwatch
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I just got back from seeing this and I have to say that I was super hyped for the movie before and I came away disappointed. The movie spends way too much time setting up the backstory and doesn't leave enough time for the actual story to take place. By the end of the movie you are jumping around quickly from one thing to another that it feels like they just ran out of time.
I did enjoy the whole Austin Powers meets Dracula vibe to the movie, though. I like how Barnabus is trying to understand the 1970's through the eyes of someone from the 1770's. I also liked how he was a playboy that all the women fell in love with. It kinda added to the 1970's free love mentality.
I did enjoy the whole Austin Powers meets Dracula vibe to the movie, though. I like how Barnabus is trying to understand the 1970's through the eyes of someone from the 1770's. I also liked how he was a playboy that all the women fell in love with. It kinda added to the 1970's free love mentality.
Speedymanic
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On what basis is it underperforming? What were the studios expectations for OW?
James Woods
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It was expected to go over 100 million? LOL wut. I don't think so, Tim. A gross of over 50 million will suffice like a motherfucker for Dark Shadows opening weekend, dude. The studio expects this shit to bomb.
Speedymanic
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With a 40M opening weekend and a shitty 2.5 multiplier, 100M was attainable. However that seems not be the case .. unless its grows some legs.
It would have opened higher if it wasn't in Avengers wake. Really bad time to launch the movie.
It will still gross 80-90m domestically, and seems like it will be another Depp blockbuster overseas from the initial reports I'm seeing.
I doubt anybody is sweating its performance.
It will still gross 80-90m domestically, and seems like it will be another Depp blockbuster overseas from the initial reports I'm seeing.
I doubt anybody is sweating its performance.
I actually liked that a whole lot but the running gag about Barnabas not being able to find a place to sleep went on for way too long.
Its funny you bring up digital effects, I read this morning
that it was originally supposed to be a CG de-aged Alice Cooper, but Alice felt that the end result looked uglier than he did now so he just did the scene himself
I felt everything about the ending was rushed and poorly done. That last scene could have been intended as anything really.A lot of people are saying it sets up for a sequel. Honestly I don't think that was intended. I think it ended the way it did as more of a way of saying, hey, this show has a LOT of source material, and clearly there's a lot that happens after this point... we just can't show it all to you
Apart from France and a few corner markets I havent heard it doing good let alone blockbuster level business.
Im one of the biggest fans of the show. I saw it today.
Let me give you a short refesher, I consider Dark Shadows, After Star Trek and a few other shows tops on my list.
Im going to start with the females first. They had to do some creative editing on Victoria after the first test screening. She was good in this movie. Pfeiffer was fun in this role. She actually improved on the role. Chloe Moranz... this is a fucking star. She and Gully Magraph stole this movie. STOLE IT. Eva Green did a nice job as Angelique. Playful, Spry.
However, even though Carter's Hoffman was better than i though it would be... WOW they cocked it up big time (ill get to that) with how they resolved thet Julia/Barnabas relationship. BIG, BIG miswrite.
The Men: Haley wasnt bad. It was a bit slow but it was a bit diffrent. Johnny Lee Miller played the jackass role to the t, but i think it was another huge miswrite here because Roger should had a role towards the end. Gully like i stated before stole the movie, he was a great David and i would love to see him back in a future series.
Depp - should have done more towards's Frid's Mannerisms but i understand why he wanted to chart a diffrent path - Its the same thing Pine did with Kirk on JJ's Trek - he didnt want to be like Shatner, just to use aspects of his Kirk and Pine chart his own way. That being said, this Barnabas Collins is a bit of a bad ass - perhaps TOO MUCH so. This is more of Burton's problem because Depp i felt had him the right way (because you know Edward from Twilight gives Vampires a bad name) but Burton keep going back to - be part of this dude you did before, and this dude you did before... and this Barnabas just felt like he was almost like Frid but never quite a step up from him which hurts it.
This gets me to the story.
the first hour (lets make it 30 mins to be far) is Dark Shadows Heaven. Im not kidding. They may have switched some things up but they had me from the intro onwards.
Up untill
Then the story started to LOSE ME. for a little bit.
Then the final 20 or so min was too much LONG Con-esce for me. The ending was way too Hollywood imo - to make the Twihards happy.
The acting was way better than the script or the directon and thats all on Burtons head. This is the reason why one has to be careful. If another director had this film, and there were many more rewrites (like three) the movie would be amazing. Burton isnt hungry anymore, or he doesnt take TV work like Scott did with Good Wife. Hes stuck on Gothic and thats no way, no way to keep ones mind sharp. The script needed some Gary Whitta, some bite and hell, some kinda transgressive stuff like the old series did?
My worry was why this was treated as a one-off instead of a lead into other projects? But in any case - the reviews are all over the place. Mine is that the traliers play it off as a comedy - it isnt. The first 30 mins is great...but once it get to that part i metioned before its falls off. B -, 3 stars.
Let me give you a short refesher, I consider Dark Shadows, After Star Trek and a few other shows tops on my list.
Im going to start with the females first. They had to do some creative editing on Victoria after the first test screening. She was good in this movie. Pfeiffer was fun in this role. She actually improved on the role. Chloe Moranz... this is a fucking star. She and Gully Magraph stole this movie. STOLE IT. Eva Green did a nice job as Angelique. Playful, Spry.
However, even though Carter's Hoffman was better than i though it would be... WOW they cocked it up big time (ill get to that) with how they resolved thet Julia/Barnabas relationship. BIG, BIG miswrite.
The Men: Haley wasnt bad. It was a bit slow but it was a bit diffrent. Johnny Lee Miller played the jackass role to the t, but i think it was another huge miswrite here because Roger should had a role towards the end. Gully like i stated before stole the movie, he was a great David and i would love to see him back in a future series.
Depp - should have done more towards's Frid's Mannerisms but i understand why he wanted to chart a diffrent path - Its the same thing Pine did with Kirk on JJ's Trek - he didnt want to be like Shatner, just to use aspects of his Kirk and Pine chart his own way. That being said, this Barnabas Collins is a bit of a bad ass - perhaps TOO MUCH so. This is more of Burton's problem because Depp i felt had him the right way (because you know Edward from Twilight gives Vampires a bad name) but Burton keep going back to - be part of this dude you did before, and this dude you did before... and this Barnabas just felt like he was almost like Frid but never quite a step up from him which hurts it.
This gets me to the story.
the first hour (lets make it 30 mins to be far) is Dark Shadows Heaven. Im not kidding. They may have switched some things up but they had me from the intro onwards.
Up untill
Julia did WHAT to BARNABAS? FUCK... COME THE FUCK ON BURTON FOR REAL MAN?
Then the final 20 or so min was too much LONG Con-esce for me. The ending was way too Hollywood imo - to make the Twihards happy.
The acting was way better than the script or the directon and thats all on Burtons head. This is the reason why one has to be careful. If another director had this film, and there were many more rewrites (like three) the movie would be amazing. Burton isnt hungry anymore, or he doesnt take TV work like Scott did with Good Wife. Hes stuck on Gothic and thats no way, no way to keep ones mind sharp. The script needed some Gary Whitta, some bite and hell, some kinda transgressive stuff like the old series did?
My worry was why this was treated as a one-off instead of a lead into other projects? But in any case - the reviews are all over the place. Mine is that the traliers play it off as a comedy - it isnt. The first 30 mins is great...but once it get to that part i metioned before its falls off. B -, 3 stars.
Spectral Glider
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I saw it and enjoyed it for the most part. It's well shot, slickly edited, well acted in parts and has a good share of amusing moments. Some scenes are groan worthy and the ending sucked, but all in all I felt entertained. It reminds me of something like Beetlejuice mixed with the Munsters.
Ventilaator
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Probably a not so great movie, but Burton directing + Depp being weird confirms that I will at least enjoy it.
Expendable.
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My guess? Gangster Squad, Argo and The Dark Knight Rises. Then probably Frankenweenie since it's Burton.
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Most of the reason that Dark Shadows is awesome is because it plays it straight. It's not Passions--it doesn't really float as a comedy.
Also, is it just me or does Johnny Depp look terrible? He's not particularly Barnabas-y looking. The makeup just seems kinda half assed or somethng. I can't put my finger on it but this is even worse than his Mad Hatter.
Also, is it just me or does Johnny Depp look terrible? He's not particularly Barnabas-y looking. The makeup just seems kinda half assed or somethng. I can't put my finger on it but this is even worse than his Mad Hatter.
HP_Wuvcraft
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Yeah, the trailer makes it look completely dreadful.
While it was not a great movie, it certainly wasn't bad. It just didn't have any structure until act three. That and it tried too hard to integrate 1990s Movie Conventions into the narrative.
I enjoyed very much how they kept the majority of the humor stemming from the overdramatic reactions to situations.
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