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Dark Souls III: The Ringed City |OT| One Last Journey
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Not true. Dark Souls 1 flasks heal more than flasks in 3 (atleast according to wikidot numbers). DS1 chug is slower for sure but considering the speed of enemies is much higher in DS3 the animation needs to be faster too. You still need to pick your moments to heal in this or you will eat a hit. Don't know about you but I always just maxed out the bonfires the instant I reached one. No reason not to do that.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
He should do that or
lazer spams
Both are very scary looking and might actually encourage you to run away, but they are super punishable.
CaptainAmeijin
Member
Alright, so I'm thinking of changing up my build to pump out a little more damage in PvE. Until now I've always focused on a Paladin STR/FTH build but I don't feel like I'm doing decent damage to any of the bosses, even using my +10 Follower Sabre with Lightning Blade applied.
I'm thinking of doing a respec into a Quality build and picking up another straight sword. Is the
worth investing in or nah?
I'm thinking of doing a respec into a Quality build and picking up another straight sword. Is the
Ringed Knight Straight Sword
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Beaten all mandatory bosses, last Boss was perfect, one of the best fights in Souls imho.
Sadly the level design sucked ass in my opinion. Way too hard hitting enemies, many stupid things that are kinda random/luckbased etc...
The optional boss is pretty hard, will try again tomorrow, he seems a bit random at some points. Sometimes he instantly chains the next attack without chance to hit him at random, died to that 3 times already.
Sadly the level design sucked ass in my opinion. Way too hard hitting enemies, many stupid things that are kinda random/luckbased etc...
The optional boss is pretty hard, will try again tomorrow, he seems a bit random at some points. Sometimes he instantly chains the next attack without chance to hit him at random, died to that 3 times already.
I've never kindled a bonfire in DS1. The game is designed around the player only having five flasks so I never felt the need to increase them.
With the estus boosting ring a single flask pretty much fully heals me here in 3.
Oh, so is that how it works? need to learn which is one
I found the fire breathing more punishable, the second laser has some kind of aoe while the fire breathing has nothing and the meteors seemed to fall always on the same spot.
I thought I was fighting the Dark Soul itself more than Gael. I think they could have picked a better vessel for it though. I understand why he's there (to get blood for the painter girl to paint with) but I just don't care about him at all. I'd like to know why the primordial serpents don't stop you or Gael from getting to the Dark Soul, what having the Dark Soul even means going forward, etc, but I guess we'll never get that information. Without any context for what even happens now, the story feels incomplete. Maybe someone will piece together something out of the armor/weapon/etc lore bits soon.
I'm not really enjoying exploring. Just the same predictable and annoying ambushes, the army of enemies and enemy placements that I'm used to deal with in the last 3 Souls games and their DLCs.
Demon Souls and Dark Souls 1 are just unmatched in those departments.
I just wanna see the second boss.
That's a cool detail.
Demon Souls and Dark Souls 1 are just unmatched in those departments.
I just wanna see the second boss.
That's a cool detail.
Ugh they keep doing this same gimmick over and over. Some enemy you can't target so you have to run through everything to deal with the asshole who keeps fucking with you.
I can't even talk to npcs because I keep getting interrupted by shit coming to ruin my day. This isn't any fun I keep getting lost and I seem to have missed a shortcut because I'm forced to sprint past everything to make any progress.
I can't get a second to breathe, it's really aggravating me.
I think I'll just drop it and go back to nier. From the sounds of things it's not going to improve so I'd rather play that than continue to be disappointed by this. :\
I can't even talk to npcs because I keep getting interrupted by shit coming to ruin my day. This isn't any fun I keep getting lost and I seem to have missed a shortcut because I'm forced to sprint past everything to make any progress.
I can't get a second to breathe, it's really aggravating me.
I think I'll just drop it and go back to nier. From the sounds of things it's not going to improve so I'd rather play that than continue to be disappointed by this. :\
DorkLord54
Member
You can turn them over, but I feel like there's no timing to it, it's just random. This is honestly starting to make Ariandel grow on me.
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
In all seriousness, don't blame the game for you not understanding what you need to do. Talking to that npc is a trap, because a ton of knights will spawn from the mud. You're supposed to run to the next bonfire, and focus on the smaller pockets of enemies in the side paths. You're supposed to feel the pressure, this expansion is the final exam for all of dark souls. Every enemy has a pattern and a counter. Think it through.
RandomSeed
Member
I totally ate it there. I just wanted to take a nice look around with the binoculars, after the previous areas laser spam, and...yeah.
JudgmentJay
Member
Just finished. I had no idea the last boss was the last boss. It was a cool fight, but pretty easy. Kind of a weak send-off imo.
Anyway, great DLC. 9.5/10. Top-tier level design, fun enemies, fun bosses, crazy weapons, interesting lore.
I wasn't even looking in that direction. I was just staring off in the distance. I of course heard the noise but I assumed I was safe since I was really close to the bonfire. I had a good laugh.
Anyway, great DLC. 9.5/10. Top-tier level design, fun enemies, fun bosses, crazy weapons, interesting lore.
I wasn't even looking in that direction. I was just staring off in the distance. I of course heard the noise but I assumed I was safe since I was really close to the bonfire. I had a good laugh.
Damn. It took me about 4-5 hours, but I finally beat D
.
There was plenty of times where I gave up and tried to summon for help because it's health was too high or my weapons were too stubby. But after I stopped
, I was able to solo it. Only thing that gave me trouble after that was
arkeater Midir
There was plenty of times where I gave up and tried to summon for help because it's health was too high or my weapons were too stubby. But after I stopped
focusing on its legs and tail and baited attacks that leave its head leaned forward after an attack
the crouching dash move it does when I'm already underneath it.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
i feel like an incompetent when i read people that do a boss like at the third attemp, while it takes me 20 time for the hardest bosses.... and
... i don't even count anymore, i don't know how i will be able to beat this thing with so few damage and so few opportunity to hit him
how much damage did you do to him? Any way to bait him? I almost never have any opportunity to hit his head
darkeater midir
how much damage did you do to him? Any way to bait him? I almost never have any opportunity to hit his head
In all seriousness, don't blame the game for you not understanding what you need to do. Talking to that npc is a trap, because a ton of knights will spawn from the mud. You're supposed to run to the next bonfire, and focus on the smaller pockets of enemies in the side paths. You're supposed to feel the pressure, this expansion is the final exam for all of dark souls. Every enemy has a pattern and a counter. Think it through.
It's entirely possible that the game has some mechanics that aren't fun, and someone not liking this doesn't mean they don't "get it" while you do. I'm sorry, but constant enemy mobs and hiding from projectile spam isn't really what I think of when someone says "final exam for all of dark souls". I figured out the angel bullshit and made it through, that doesn't mean it didn't suck.
BossDarkseid
Member
A better vessel for it...possibly. Better for the fans, sure, but it's probably about as good as we could have got in the DS3 story. As for the rest: I think we know one of the Primordial Serpents at least is dead, and considering
the "true" state of the world during the Gael boss, there's a pretty good chance that ultimately the Sable Church + the Primordial Serpent's plans were for naught. Or at least, postponing the inevitable. If Filionare (sp?) was keeping the cycle going, or ensuring that the Age of Fire would never truly end, then she is almost responsible for the timelines being convoluted, for any continuity snafus etc, and in Gwyn's vanity to hold onto the Age of Fire, he doomed the world.
If the Sable Church wanted you to usurp the fire, become the Lord of Hollows etc, they were probably doomed from the start. You see multiple destroyed/sunken buildings throughout the Ringed City with the Sword of Avowal on them so if you even assume they were related to the Sable Church, there's a chance they reached the city and Liliane and Yuria were stopped.
Also in giving the Dark Soul to the Painter Girl (preeeetty sure she's Priscilla's Daughter, based on her remarks about her mother, knowledge of painted worlds and scales/serpent eyes), you ensure that despite the various factions and the battle for power over the First Flame, the only thing that will ultimately survive - separate from the Cycle and the tyranny of the gods - is the Painted World of Ash (& Blood).
One of the bits I enjoyed was how we discover we were lied to about the origins of the world, or at least the "founding myth" of Lordran. The Pygmies did fight against the dragons with the Gods, but were related to the Abyss - something the Gods feared because it was an opposing force to their source of power - so they walled the Pygmies in the Ringed City, made a descendant of the Everlasting Dragons to consume and fight against the Dark, and Gwyn used his youngest daughter as a way to incubate the Dark Soul(?) and placate the Pygmies as best he could.
Of course, it ultimately renders the Furtive Pygmy meaningless as there were many Pygmy Lords, Manus almost definetley being one of them, but I think that is the point. The Furtive Pygmy, and by extension the rest of Humanity, were used as the scapegoats for the Gods' woes, when really it was all Gwyn's fault from being a vainglorious Zeus-analogue
Although using the inevitability as a catch-all is a tad cheap,
If the Sable Church wanted you to usurp the fire, become the Lord of Hollows etc, they were probably doomed from the start. You see multiple destroyed/sunken buildings throughout the Ringed City with the Sword of Avowal on them so if you even assume they were related to the Sable Church, there's a chance they reached the city and Liliane and Yuria were stopped.
Also in giving the Dark Soul to the Painter Girl (preeeetty sure she's Priscilla's Daughter, based on her remarks about her mother, knowledge of painted worlds and scales/serpent eyes), you ensure that despite the various factions and the battle for power over the First Flame, the only thing that will ultimately survive - separate from the Cycle and the tyranny of the gods - is the Painted World of Ash (& Blood).
One of the bits I enjoyed was how we discover we were lied to about the origins of the world, or at least the "founding myth" of Lordran. The Pygmies did fight against the dragons with the Gods, but were related to the Abyss - something the Gods feared because it was an opposing force to their source of power - so they walled the Pygmies in the Ringed City, made a descendant of the Everlasting Dragons to consume and fight against the Dark, and Gwyn used his youngest daughter as a way to incubate the Dark Soul(?) and placate the Pygmies as best he could.
Of course, it ultimately renders the Furtive Pygmy meaningless as there were many Pygmy Lords, Manus almost definetley being one of them, but I think that is the point. The Furtive Pygmy, and by extension the rest of Humanity, were used as the scapegoats for the Gods' woes, when really it was all Gwyn's fault from being a vainglorious Zeus-analogue
Although using the inevitability as a catch-all is a tad cheap,
I believe the Design Works book contains a 10+ pg interview with Miyazaki and the development team so when the talk about the story/lore stuff it'll be interesting to see if they mention how things changed during development, as I believe it covers Ariandel + TRC. Ultimately it's just my interpretation of it.
GwyndolinCinder
Member
In all seriousness, don't blame the game for you not understanding what you need to do. Talking to that npc is a trap, because a ton of knights will spawn from the mud. You're supposed to run to the next bonfire, and focus on the smaller pockets of enemies in the side paths. You're supposed to feel the pressure, this expansion is the final exam for all of dark souls. Every enemy has a pattern and a counter. Think it through.
Is this even a joke post?
Adam_Vania
Banned
you must be really good! i still have to kindle at least to 10 =)
i am struggling with Dancer in one of my games right now. i still haven't beaten AoA. healing tends to be a big part of my strategy loll. i like healing in DS3, it is a big gesture towards player friendliness. Dark Souls has always been branded with that image as a hard, esoteric, player-unfriendly game. there are many things in DS3 that go a long ways towards fixing that. this is fine with me. each game should be its own. DS3 is the high definition current gen version of the classic formula. we already did the super punishing stand in place thing. we have conquered it. let's move on. we have fought the super tough spinning wheel skeletons in DS1, dying so many times, getting super frustrated. i am happy to never have to deal with that frustration again lol. i still beat them in DS1, i still went through that difficult experience. i don't need to do it again. it was cool to see them in DS3.
i am at the second bonfire and i've just killed the third angel, and am feeling pretty good about being able to explore this now. really like what i am seeing, it is a kind of mix of
DS2's Earthen Peak windmill turned on its side and dumped into the bottom of Blighttown.
lol, I remember that part. I just talked to her using Chameleon.
The Harald Knights are really easy with a bow, honestly. Just lure them one by one to the top of the stairs provided you have enough space and distance, lock on to them with your bow and shoot. You can do it without taking any damage whatsoever. I managed to kill all of them rather easily. Bows are so handy in this game.
Funny I tried to use my sneaking abilities to get by the
angel
It really is. Such a boring fight.
Red Liquorice
Member
The animation seems to be from the bat enemies in Cainhurst. And the other small enemies in this area are just Thralls with a different skin - the curse ones are annoying, I thought it was poison at first.
The big humanity-head enemies have way too much HP for my taste, but I've been having fun jumping off the bridges and doing the special animation plunging attacks.
Enemy design is really mixed for me so far. The weird bug things that speak, cool but a bit visually similar to the Cainhurst (again!) bugs. The knights are just Darkwraiths with a few flashy moves from Soul of CInder. It feels like a lot of mix-and-matching so far.
I'm enjoying the exploration of the area after the first boss (haven't got to the second yet) but I don't think the level design is anything amazing. The visual scale and scope is on point though and I think they succeeded in giving this area a unique colour palette within the rest of the game.
I'll try beating
tomorrow, not sure how I feel about the fight yet, I'll reserve judgment until I beat the boss, sometimes bosses appear stupid in the first few tries but are trivial once you figure them out.
The first three bosses have been great so far, although I regret doing my first playthrough with my faith build, I found a really cool int/dex weapon that I want to use. There's one worthwhile faith spell, but no weapon yet...Faith builds continue to be shafted.
Midir
The first three bosses have been great so far, although I regret doing my first playthrough with my faith build, I found a really cool int/dex weapon that I want to use. There's one worthwhile faith spell, but no weapon yet...Faith builds continue to be shafted.
Hikami
Member
I like it. I've been doing the weapon art -> heavy attack combo, then hitting heavy attack again for whatever pyromancy you have on, black flame/great combustion works best for me since you're at close range.
I think it's worth it. The final boss of Ashes is one of the best in the series IMO. You also need Ashes in order to see the ending of this expansion.
There's a side passage you can run into while riding the elevator shortcut.
Nice! I love the Onyx Blade but I also want something faster and lighter.
Now... how do I beat that boss as a pyro..lol
Ah, OK. I'll buy both then. Hopefully my Level 100 or so STR NG character will be do well.
It will. I went into this expansion with a sub SL100 strength character and had no major problems.
I recomended it earlier, Exiled Greatsword isn't super slow and it does a lot of damage, more if you have STR build with Heavy infusion (quality works too).
Benzychenz
Member
Wrapping up my Zelda playthrough now and have both this and Nier Automata screaming to be played. Please slow down 2017 😭
I do about 500-600 dmg with my drang hammer L1.
Best spot to be is either in front of him or underneath him in front of his feet. From there he usually likes to do either do:
- 2 bites from each side, then a sweeping fire breath (dodge them one at a time, then run straight for the neck to avoid the fire and then attack the face)
- Large horizontal swipe from the left (his right), then the right (his left). After that he'll drop his head on the ground for free hits
-Fire breath into laser. Typically when you're in front of him and he aims a firebreath on the ground when he wasn't doing a combo. Just run to the side til the laser appears, then run to straight at him avoid the 2nd attack, then attack his head.
-Roar into leaping bite attack. Don't see if very often but it's a free head attack when he whiffs.
Those moments generally give me the most time to attack. You can attack his head in a lot of his other attacks too, but I'm not too certain on the pattern or the window is not as big. One attack he has is a huge vertical slam attack where he does nothing afterwards, but sometimes he does his firebreath or in his 2nd phase the homing projectiles. So you can risk it, but I'd rather run to the legs/tail and wait for him to turn around.
- 2 bites from each side, then a sweeping fire breath (dodge them one at a time, then run straight for the neck to avoid the fire and then attack the face)
- Large horizontal swipe from the left (his right), then the right (his left). After that he'll drop his head on the ground for free hits
-Fire breath into laser. Typically when you're in front of him and he aims a firebreath on the ground when he wasn't doing a combo. Just run to the side til the laser appears, then run to straight at him avoid the 2nd attack, then attack his head.
-Roar into leaping bite attack. Don't see if very often but it's a free head attack when he whiffs.
Those moments generally give me the most time to attack. You can attack his head in a lot of his other attacks too, but I'm not too certain on the pattern or the window is not as big. One attack he has is a huge vertical slam attack where he does nothing afterwards, but sometimes he does his firebreath or in his 2nd phase the homing projectiles. So you can risk it, but I'd rather run to the legs/tail and wait for him to turn around.
Milwood Battleaxe with Heavy Infusion. Nearly 600 AR on a decently fast weapon with a cool weapon art.
Mace with a Heavy Infusion is also very nice.
So the damage is great on this demon scar? What do you use in your oh?
You can only upgrade correct? Can't use infuse gem. Right? What scaling does it get?