What in the fuck? No souls game ever has done this before! I am shook
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Dark Souls III [unmarked Spoilers Thread]
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What in the fuck? No souls game ever has done this before! I am shook
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Noray
Unconfirmed Member
Biorr did. Between that and Stormruler this fight is 100% a Demon's throwback.
I know biorr throws himself against the dragon, i didn't expect an NPC to show up during the Boss intro.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
DS3 is the easiest Souls game for sure.
DieNgamers
Member
It's either black or white with this one, haha. The people who make these statements seem so sure about it, too. Easiest or hardest..I guess it's somewhere in the middle, then?
Maybe after 3-4 games people have stopped eating shit for stupid reasons. People are smarter now they literally leveled up. It is more welcoming than other games that i agree with.
DeS isn't a hard game anymore after all these years of this kind of game.
It's partly that, but it's also partly some balance issues. Shields are OP. They need to take like 5 off the stability of the normal shields. It could also do with just one really tough boss before Pontiff
ebullientprism
Member
Holy shit. Get fucking got!
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
I think it 100% depends on whether you play with a high-stability small shield or not. If yes, easy game confirmed. If no, it can be pretty rough and unforgiving.
Try throwing some pebbles
Oh, cool thanks! Gonna go try it out now.
JudgmentJay
Member
Fewer bonfires as well. There were several times when I was playing through the game when I thought to myself "There REALLY doesn't need to be a bonfire here." And I'm not referring to the ones immediately after bosses/zone transitions and such; I understand why those are there. The second bonfire in the flooded forest area in Road of Sacrifices is a good example. There are only like 10 or 15 trivial enemies between that one and the previous one. Completely unnecessary.
I agree. The prison area feels about right
This one got me too. Leave the elevator in the "up" position, then walk down the stairs. Got to the platform nearest to the tower and throw a pebble in front of you. Mind. Blown.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
So who is the "Pinwheel" or "Hemwick Witches" boss of this game that's ridiculously easy?
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
Crystal Sage (literally Pinwheel 2.0 but harder), Wolnir, Yhorm, Greatwood. They're all super free. Harder than Pinwheel but that isn't saying much.
There's the Crystal Sages which are harder than Pinwheel but mechanically similar and still quite easy, Deacons of the Deep are quite easy, Yhorm is potentially either really easy or really tedious and his trick is a little harder to work out. On balance, High Lord Wolnir is maybe the easiest
Darryl M R
Member
Is there any real reason to have/use a shield?
Makes the game much easier
Darryl M R
Member
I hear that most people rather dodge than block an attack. Are there a lot of shield users in pvp?
I don't know what most people prefer but shields are really powerful in this game. I found dodging better on certain later bosses but for 90% of the game the shield was very effective. Maybe too much so.
I'd say somewhere in the middle, but there's five games now.
People still need to find out what is OP and what isn't. Shield builds are the best right now, because there's a lot of fantastic shields with low strength and weight requirements.. Over the last few days, there's a consensus forming that Fume Ultra Greatsword is stupid powerful, and that Sorceries and Miracles are simply bugged to the point of being terribly worthless (Pyros are better in almost all circumstances).
OP:
- Shields
- Fume UGS
- Vigor (up to its soft cap at 25). Like, really, spend your first 15 points in Vigor for the love of God.
UP:
- Sorceries
- Miracles
- Heavy armor (damage reduction soft-caps way too early)
I don't know if I have a solid opinion on its difficulty, other than there's actually a difficulty curve, with later bosses being harder than early bosses. Like, wow. It took the series a long enough time to actually figure that thing out.
What do you mean? Ebrietas wasn't that hard of a boss if you were doing her at endgame with a lightning elemental damage. Tonitrus wrecked her.
Her main problem is that her laser wrecked you if you didn't have enough Vitality.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
My first run was Katanas, two handed, with the only shield being the stamina shield on my back. Game was not hard at all.
Jellycrackers
Member
It's so weird to me how many people are saying shields are OP... I came out of the game thinking the opposite! I used Knight's shield through the game until I got Shield of Want and more often than not, I ended up just 2 handing my greatsword because I felt that I could rarely block more than 1 good hit without getting staggered. With how aggressive and fast most enemies are, blocking full combos was impossible most of the time.
I think the only time I ever really blocked any attacks from bosses were a couple of Nameless King, and that was just as a safety because that boss was WRECKING me at first. I intended to dodge, didn't do it in time, so the shield ate 1 or 2 hits on accident.
I think the only time I ever really blocked any attacks from bosses were a couple of Nameless King, and that was just as a safety because that boss was WRECKING me at first. I intended to dodge, didn't do it in time, so the shield ate 1 or 2 hits on accident.
Shield of Want doesn't have enough elemental resistance. Swapping between the Fire and Lightning shields that have 100% physical resist was important.
You don't stand in place with your shield up. You hold it up while circle-strafing into place.
Jellycrackers
Member
Oh I know about circle strafing - I've played enough of the first 2 games that circle strafing is a habit I can't break lol.
I felt like anytime I got on anyone's side, they'd bust out an anti-backstab-fishing move like the Lothric Knights' shield bash and stuff. Shields never struck me as a problem, though. I just adapted.
Umm well its pretty much consensus that she is the hardest boss in bloodborne outside of the dlc. There was the charging headbutt thing too.
Iudex Gundyr would wreck the shit out of any completely new person to Dark Souls. He is by *faaaaaaaaaaar* the hardest 'first challenge' in any of the games.
Well, a bunch of the Chalice dungeons are considered harder, for what it is worth. And Tonitrus completely and utterly wrecks her. So she folds hard to a strength build.
Yeah thats true I should have been more clear by main game I just meant story bosses. Abhorrent Beast wrecks everything if we take chalice into account. (Imo)
DieNgamers
Member
It should be noted that this will probaby be the first Souls game for quite a few people!
It took my girlfriend 45 minutes of total playtime to get past him and she almost never plays action games, is not used to the dual shock, and never touched a souls game before. He's not that hard.
It took my girlfriend 45 minutes of total playtime to get past him and she almost never plays action games, is not used to the dual shock, and never touched a souls game before. He's not that hard.
Does hard constitute 3 hours or more for a boss? It's so arbitrary. The real version of Gundyr is a real athlete though when he's enraged.
No bloody way.
I can't fathom someone seriously arguing that unless you really misremember the old ones.
Enemies and bosses are faster, more complex mechanically, track in a similar fashion to DaS2 (except with good animations this time) and tend to deal more damage.
It's straight up more challenging.
It might not feel that way if you just play each game once, because by now you would have gotten a lot better at those sorts of game so you know what to expect and shit.
But when replaying the games after that, it should be obvious that you first impression is quite different from how the games actually stack up once you have experienced all of them.
I believe this is one of the reasons some people somehow say DeS is the most challenging when in fact it's by far the easiest.
ZeroTheShadow
Member
Bosses I killed on my first attempt in DS3:
Gundyr 2
Dragon Slayer
The Young Prince
Abyss Walkers
Demon King
Defiled King
Big Tree
Decans
Dancer
Crystal Sage
Bosses I beat on my second attempt
Aldrich
Gundyr 1
Dragon
Skelaton King
That's off the top of my head. Game is easiest souls by far. You just have too many advantages.
Gundyr 2
Dragon Slayer
The Young Prince
Abyss Walkers
Demon King
Defiled King
Big Tree
Decans
Dancer
Crystal Sage
Bosses I beat on my second attempt
Aldrich
Gundyr 1
Dragon
Skelaton King
That's off the top of my head. Game is easiest souls by far. You just have too many advantages.
LowlySmokeGuy
Banned
Is that an Asylum Demon? What area is this?
It's the area you can get to from the Wolf covenant bonfire.
No, he is not a DS2 giant.
There's seemingly not just one race of "giants" in the world history.
That's strange, the first trailer very much made him out to be a DS2 giant, I feel like it was a change during development.
Yeah, he looks like a DS2 giant in the trailer, but clearly has two red eyes during his fight.