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[Haunted]

I think we may be misunderstanding what the word generic means.

If I can point the in-game camera at a setting while obscuring my own character, and without its HUD someone can tell me what game I'm playing, then at the very least that game has a distinct, non-generic look.

This is Castle Boletaria and nowhere else.

No, that's actually medieval castle #23525. Common mistake to make when some of the levels are grounded in a realistic depiction of environments.

You should've gone with the Nexus or the lava portion of the mines or something.

 

[Urban Scholar]

how many copies will i need to preorder to get all the retailer exclusive preorder bonuses?

Namco is behind this, I know something's up.

I can only think of weapons DLC perhaps, I doubt it would be otherwise. From reading the interviews they expressed that DLC should be something too noticeable for a player without access. Heck we may get artbooks or music...nah.

 

[Pinko Marx]

how many copies will i need to preorder to get all the retailer exclusive preorder bonuses?

Namco is behind this, I know something's up.

Gamestop preorder: extra DLC quests!
Amazon: 10,000 extra souls and a special sword!
Best buy: Exclusive armor set!

 

[vocab]

DS is far from original in concepts. I think that it's fairly obvious.

 

[madara]

Woah, what's going on in here?

DS generic? That's rich.

I think its more to do with the fact Japanese art loses alot of its identity with the typical cg look. Surely is going be megahot title but it does have that cold sterile shiny look typical of this generation.

 

[Melchiah]

Might buy this one if it isn't going to be as hard and frustrating as Demon's Souls.

 

[gdt]

Might buy this one if it isn't going to be as hard and frustrating as Demon's Souls.

It's going to be harder, apparently.


Demon's Souls is a bitch at first by the way, but once you get going and into the groove (in addition to picking up some HP regenerating loot), it's still hard, but very manageable.

 

[Shed_a_Ninja]

my skeletal frame is properly prepared

 

[Canova]

Gamestop preorder: extra DLC quests!
Amazon: 10,000 extra souls and a special sword!
Best buy: Exclusive armor set!

Or

From Soft can release ultra-super-special-exclusive-edition for 300+ bucks complete with original art and all that....and I'd jump on it in a second

 

[WanderingWind]

Or

From Soft can release ultra-super-special-exclusive-edition for 300+ bucks complete with original art and all that....and I'd jump on it in a second

Yeah, but to be fair, you'd also pay 300+ for Hidetaka Miyazaki to come to your house and kick you in the balls repeatedly so....

 

[BobTheFork]

It had better not be anything pre=orders that effect the game in any way.
Swag or GTFO!

 

[Canova]

Yeah, but to be fair, you'd also pay 300+ for Hidetaka Miyazaki to come to your house and kick you in the balls repeatedly so....

because never before dying 1000 times in a game would feel this good ;P

 

[Yoshichan]

Pretty sure the wolf is a weapons vendor.

I literally laughed :lol

Sooo good, considering the weapons on the ground...

 

[Melchiah]

It's going to be harder, apparently.


Demon's Souls is a bitch at first by the way, but once you get going and into the groove (in addition to picking up some HP regenerating loot), it's still hard, but very manageable.

=(

Oh well, I'll have to skip this one, or else I'll have to buy a new controller and get a new girlfriend.

 

[BobTheFork]

=(

Oh well, I'll have to skip this one, or else I'll have to buy a new controller and get a new girlfriend.

What? No, you must force your GF to play the game. If she likes it you marry her, if no then it's no big loss.

 

[WanderingWind]

What? No, you must force your GF to play the game. If she likes it you marry her, if no then it's no big loss.

Look, not everybody is into S&M. If my wife liked the type of punishment DS dishes out, I'd be a little worried when the lights go out.

 

[todahawk]

=(

Oh well, I'll have to skip this one, or else I'll have to buy a new controller and get a new girlfriend.

I'm leaving my wife and kids for Dark Soul's, maybe we should form a support group.

 

[WanderingWind]

Temporarily Alone?

 

[BobTheFork]

Look, not everybody is into S&M. If my wife liked the type of punishment DS dishes out, I'd be a little worried when the lights go out.

Tell you what, pick your own punchline

1) She drags out a pair of Maneaters

2) She's going to make you touch the demon inside her

3) something something white sticky stuff

 

[WanderingWind]

Tell you what, pick your own punchline

1) She drags out a pair of Maneaters

2) She's going to make you touch the demon inside her

3) something something white sticky stuff

Psh. As if I'm going to do your dirty work for you.

 

[Windom Earle]

My logic is pretty much the logic of gaf. Every member is allowed to post their views on a certain subject. Be it positive or negative. You don't seem to understand this with comments like "Just keep it to yourselves." and "I don't go into the other threads and post about it". Threads are not only supposed to be circle jerks like you really seem to want. Am I trolling? Yes I am, but I'm only in her because of your comments against a poster who just posted his opinion. Are really going to label anyone who ever posts a negative opinion as someone trying to get attention? Reading your rants make it seem like conversation is only for those saying positive, because being negative makes you a troll. I guess that would make Armoix a troll when he details and makes an argument about a game he dislikes? Wouldn't it? I can't really tell with how you judge this. Regardless, realize that posting that you dislike something is not exactly trolling. The poster certainly wasn't do that.

Oh wow, what happened here? Thanks for having my back Rahx, but it feels weird to agree with you on something for once Well, not completely, I totally understand why people like this game a lot.

And I stand to my comment about the graphics. There is nothing unique about them (especially the environments), just your standard fantasy scenario. Dragons? Never seen that before. Do we know anything about the engine they use for Dark Souls? The blur/post processing pics in the OP indicate that they have improved their tech (in case they are non-bullshots).

Can we have like a shadow thread for every thread, for degenerate retards to post about how they don't like the game, feel it would be better if this or that were in it, and so on. I'm tired of reading through post upon post filled to the brim with praise, and then a troll every 100th or so post popping up and causing a fight, delaying positive discussion in a thread. If you don't like the game STFU. No one cares!!!

Holy shit!

 

[Melchiah]

What? No, you must force your GF to play the game. If she likes it you marry her, if no then it's no big loss.

I meant, she'll leave me due to my constant cursing and shouting when playing the game.

I'm leaving my wife and kids for Dark Soul's, maybe we should form a support group.

Perhaps. =D

 

[Zeliard]

Oh wow, what happened here? Thanks for having my back Rahx, but it feels weird to agree with you on something for once Well, not completely, I totally understand why people like this game a lot.

And I stand to my comment about the graphics. There is nothing unique about them (especially the environments), just your standard fantasy scenario. Dragons? Never seen that before. Do we know anything about the engine they use for Dark Souls? The blur/post processing pics in the OP indicate that they have improved their tech (in case they are non-bullshots).

Did you only play the first two levels or something? The character designs went far beyond simply dragons and each environment was notably very distinct - how different each environment was from the last was one of the things that stood out about Demon's Souls. Is Tower of Latria a "standard fantasy scenario?" That entire world owes much more to the genre of horror, and it encompasses 1/5th of the entire game.

Does that guy look like a fantasy cliche? When Rahxephon91 is literally the only person in the thread agreeing with you, you know you're horribly, horribly wrong. :>

 

[Draft]

Is it weird that in a game series full of all sorts of amazing, gross, bizarre looking monsters, I'm most intimidated by what looks like an oversized wolf?

 

[BobTheFork]

Did you only play the first two levels or something? The character designs went far beyond simply dragons and each environment was notably very distinct - how different each environment was from the last was one of the things that stood out about Demon's Souls. Is Tower of Latria a "standard fantasy scenario?" That entire world owes much more to the genre of horror, and it encompasses 1/5th of the entire game.

[MG]http://i54.tinypic.com/2wnd3d5.jpg[/IMG]

Does that guy look like a fantasy cliche? When Rahxephon91 is literally the only person in the thread agreeing with you, you know you're horribly, horribly wrong. :>

He wasn't talking about the design and graphics anymore, he was talking about the insistence that no negative comment be put here, and I agree with him too. If threads were limited either opinion then it wouldn't even be a discussion.

 

[Urban Scholar]

Is it weird that in a game series full of all sorts of amazing, gross, bizarre looking monsters, I'm most intimidated by what looks like an oversized wolf?

Nope that thing looks like it will give chase and maul you nasty. It's a good thing this induces fear.

 

[Windom Earle]

Did you only play the first two levels or something? The character designs went far beyond simply dragons and each environment was notably very distinct - how different each environment was from the last was one of the things that stood out about Demon's Souls. Is Tower of Latria a "standard fantasy scenario?" That entire world owes much more to the genre of horror, and it encompasses 1/5th of the entire game.

I don't think the graphics/art are bad, they get the job done, but I just don't see anything special in them. Maybe go back to one of the old DS threads where people only judged the game based on the visuals. Most people love the gameplay and thus seem to accept/praise other aspects of the game that are actually not that good in reality.

Does that guy look like a fantasy cliche? When Rahxephon91 is literally the only person in the thread agreeing with you, you know you're horribly, horribly wrong. :>

Well, this thread is maybe not the ideal place to have an unbiased discussion about the game And I agree that some of the art is pretty good!

Anyway, I guess it's time to get out of this thread, it was really not my intention to spoil the game for anyone, just stating my opinion.

 

[Zeliard]

If that wolf is meant to be a boss I'm really wondering how you're expected to fight him. Generally in Demon's Souls, when you were going up against something huge in melee, they were also slow to compensate for that. Not sure how they can make a wolf relatively slow and not make it look dumb.

Flamelurker was pretty quick (especially pissed off Flamelurker) but this wolf seems much larger in size than he was.

He wasn't talking about the design and graphics anymore, he was talking about the insistence that no negative comment be put here, and I agree with him too. If threads were limited either opinion then it wouldn't even be a discussion.

I was replying to this: "And I stand to my comment about the graphics. There is nothing unique about them (especially the environments), just your standard fantasy scenario. Dragons? Never seen that before."

I don't think the graphics/art are bad, they get the job done, but I just don't see anything special in them. Maybe go back to one of the old DS threads where people only judged the game based on the visuals. Most people love the gameplay and thus seem to accept/praise other aspects of the game that are actually not that good in reality.

Well, I can only speak for myself, and I've always adored the art. Demon's Souls wasn't on my radar till a couple weeks prior to the NA release (I had barely even heard of it), but when I did see it, I was instantly excited for it.

I always thought the look of the game was absolutely beautiful - it was one of the things that initially attracted me to it, along with the rhythms of combat and the lack of hand-holding.

 

[Speevy]

Okay, since so many of you have quoted my castle pic, I had an idea. No peeking at image titles either.

Where is this?

Pretty easy to tell what you're looking at when a game has a distinct art style, isn't it? (even when the individual pieces are typical of European architecture)

 

[semiconscious]

Demon's Souls is a bitch at first by the way, but once you get going and into the groove (in addition to picking up some HP regenerating loot), it's still hard, but very manageable.

yep...

i'm a very mediocre twitch gamer (tho i love playing them). &, while there're times in ds when some twitch-type skills can be helpful, the vast majority of the game can be handled simply by being cautious, patient, & by thinking. & it's this, as much as anything, that made the whole experience so immersive for me (&, i think, so difficult for some - ds runs counter to the way most action rpgs are designed to be played, & you're guaranteed a hard/frustrating time if you're unwilling to adjust to this)...

 

[Canova]

Is it weird that in a game series full of all sorts of amazing, gross, bizarre looking monsters, I'm most intimidated by what looks like an oversized wolf?

Nope that thing looks like it will give chase and maul you nasty. It's a good thing this induces fear.

you mean scarier than the toothed thing which will slam its ugly mouth on your head, then it can do either, liquify and suck you dry alive, or shred you to pieces?

 

[tass0]

GENERIC

GENERIC

GENERIC

Come on guys, really?

 

[Durante]

Anyone who called Demon's Souls' art generic, please allow me to join you in your reality. It must be a truly wondrous place when this art style is so widely used that it can be called generic.

 

[BobTheFork]

GENERIC

[ig]http://www.time4rpgs.net/wp-content/gallery/demons-souls/demons_souls_gargoyle.jpg[/img]

GENERIC

[ig]http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/demons-souls-review_02.jpg[/img]

GENERIC

http://ps3media.gamespy.com/ps3/image/article/102/1020315/demons-souls-20090901050006195_640w.jpg[/img]

Come on guys, really?

I think I'm going to start trolling Demon's Souls just for the hell of it. One of my absolute favorite games but some of you need to learn to just let it go.

 

[Death Dealer]

Most people love the gameplay and thus seem to accept/praise other aspects of the game that are actually not that good in reality.

That's unsupported, a leap to a conclusion.

There are plenty of titles with great gameplay that people have no problem slagging the art or other aesthetic choices. You're in the minority thinking Demon's Souls reputation for those things are undeserved. If having a Dragon makes DS generic, than I love generic games. Perhaps the word you're looking for is cliche.

 

[JasonUresti]

The look of Demon' Souls, the character designs and environments, are what got me to try the game in the first place.

I read all the talk about the game, about the difficulty, and great risk and reward of the combat. But it wasn't until I saw some in game video, and saw the the great atmosphere, and true dark fantasy world they created that I jumped in.

Anyway, it's cool to have an opinion, even a negative one, and to state it in a game thread. Too often though, these one line of poorly written snark types aren't doing it for any other reason than to be a negative Nancy, to jump up and shout "Look at me, look at me! My opinion (therefore, myself) is important! I really know this game is bad, pay attention."

Offer a valid criticism, think a bit about why you disliked a game. Doing so can create a discussion, that can allow all of us to have a greater understanding of the game. It can help those who already like the game more fully understand why they like it, and appreciate the game more. It can also show those who are not fans of the game why someone would enjoy it.

 

[ZephyrFate]

I think the problem is that people have come in here saying the game looks generic, that the graphics aren't impressive, that the art design isn't great...


and have absolutely zero evidence backing this up.

 

[Tunin]

I think the problem is that people have come in here saying the game looks generic, that the graphics aren't impressive, that the art design isn't great...


and have absolutely zero evidence backing this up.

Exactly. I mean, it's so well made that, even if it is generic, can be considered an piece of art in therms of video-games, since it's beautifully crafted.

 

[Blast Processing]

This just popped up on the Famtsu.com feed:

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201103/07041203.html

cut/paste famitsu urls, as always.

Screens are all the same, but some of the info may be fresh.

 

[RyanDG]

Screens are all the same, but some of the info may be fresh.

Looking at the details, everything in there seems to be stuff we already know...

I'll do a rough translation if people want, but it doesn't really look necessary compared to what has already been released.

Part of it does confirm that enemies will chase you up ladders and aren't confined to specific areas in a level (referencing the possibly of having enemies chase you throughout). Is that new?

 

[BobTheFork]

I think the problem is that people have come in here saying the game looks generic, that the graphics aren't impressive, that the art design isn't great...


and have absolutely zero evidence backing this up.

Because those things are subjective. If they posted anything they said backed up their point would you suddenly agree with them or think they had a point? They would post it and you would say they are wrong and we'd still be sitting here. Zen is the answer, just let it go.

 

[Draft]

you mean scarier than the toothed thing which will slam its ugly mouth on your head, then it can do either, liquify and suck you dry alive, or shred you to pieces?

Not scarier, more intimidating.

 

[Blast Processing]

Looking at the details, everything in there seems to be stuff we already know...

I'll do a rough translation if people want, but it doesn't really look necessary compared to what has already been released.

Part of it does confirm that enemies will chase you up ladders and aren't confined to specific areas in a level (referencing the possibly of having enemies chase you throughout). Is that new?

No, you're right, I just finished reading through it, and it's just your typical Famitsu fluff. Nothing new.

 

[ZephyrFate]

Because those things are subjective. If they posted anything they said backed up their point would you suddenly agree with them or think they had a point? They would post it and you would say they are wrong and we'd still be sitting here. Zen is the answer, just let it go.

Evidence is entirely not subjective. I would think they had a point at all if they posted anything to back up their point.

 

[BobTheFork]

Evidence is entirely not subjective. I would think they had a point at all if they posted anything to back up their point.

Evidence can mean many many things. Quality of graphics and style are completely subjective. Again, I think that if they posted any picture and said 'here's the example right there' people would still just say they are wrong, it won't prove anything.

 

[Vic]

DAT WOLF!!

 

[Zeliard]

That almost any screenshot or piece of concept art you post from Demon's Souls/Dark Souls can instantly be linked to that series should have instantly dispelled all this "generic" nonsense.

But alas.

 

[Orayn]

Am I the only one who wants to see Dark Souls' HUD? It'll be interesting to see if they keep the same look as Demon's Souls or modernize things a little. Personally, I'm hoping for the former. Say no to generic smooth panels and common fonts!

 

[Draft]

Generic is a shitty critique, anyway. It's almost never backed up with any meaningful analysis.

 

[Servbot #42]

I wonder what wrong with this girl face because i'm pretty sure they always show her from the back, unless i missed a screen where they show her from the front.