Its been a while so my memory isn't perfect but what I remember happening to me was I took the back entrance into blight town via the valley of the drakes before even stepping foot into the depths. Hadn't killed capra demon yet either. I got down to the bonfire near Quelaag and explored a bit but couldn't figure out what to do. So I left and went back to firelink shrine and he was gone. If I had to guess, it would be that stepping foot into blighttown is the trigger.
I just did the Capra Demon with my new character, so I think now I'll go Depths -> Darkroot Garden -> Farm Green Titanite for a Divine weapon -> Catacombs.
Yoshichan said:
If this would happen to me, I'd instantly scream out 'GAME OF THE YEAR!'
an inversion of the Old Hero fight from Demon's Souls. Slow-paced, but instead of the boss not being able to see you, you can't see the boss. Really liked that fight just for that and the atmosphere, even though it was awfully easy.
I didn't imagine my lightning weapon working; It actually did work in keeping skeletons dead in the Tomb of Giants. Not dead, and then I ran away and I have no idea what happened to them, but dead in the "I watched them, they never revived" sense. The only portion that they revive in is the Nito fight, and it happens pretty immediately after I kill them. Very inconsistent. My divine weapon is crap, so I'm kind of just throwing myself up against Nito and hoping I can kill him before the skele's do me in (he really can't).
They don't revive at all in the cave. It's not until you get to the boss that they start reviving, so you can use any weapon you want up until that point. The way to do it is -
drop down, and move around the starting area - 3 skeletons will run over to you. Kill them with the divine weapon. They won't get back up. Then, go over with your best 2 handed weapon and the wolf ring on and wail the shit out of Nito. He'll periodically do an AOE attack, so make sure you defend/retreat for that as it has a long range, and then wail on him some more. Don't go into the back as there's big ass skeletons back there waiting. He should go down quick.
They don't revive at all in the cave. It's not until you get to the boss that they start reviving, so you can use any weapon you want up until that point. The way to do it is -
drop down, and move around the starting area - 3 skeletons will run over to you. Kill them with the divine weapon. They won't get back up. Then, go over with your best 2 handed weapon and the wolf ring on and wail the shit out of Nito. He'll periodically do an AOE attack, so make sure you defend/retreat for that as it has a long range, and then wail on him some more. Don't go into the back as there's big ass skeletons back there waiting. He should go down quick.
If you can get to the second tower (there's a root that leads up) with a bow and lots of arrows - just pull them to you, let them kill one another and then finish off whoever is left. That's how I did it.
Also, for those thinking that the Chaos weapons are over powered because they scale with humanity - they cap out at 10, and have diminishing returns after 3 - 4 humanity, so someone can have a million humanity if they wanted and it wouldn't matter. Their weapons stop getting stronger after 10 humanity.
I just did some farming to get some more demon titanite (more on how to do this below) and got Queelag's Furysword to +5. I compared this to the +10 Fire Server I made earlier. Here's the results:
Quick attack 1 handed/2 handed: Queelag's Furysword is slightly faster than the Server here, but does less damage and doesn't have as much range or as wide of an arc. The Server has a slight delay on the swing in comparison, but covers more area and generally does 50 - 100 damage more (note that I have 10 humanity for this test).
Power attack 1 handed/2 handed: Both swords have a slight wind up time, with Queelag's being no faster than the Server here. It still has a shorter range and does less damage than the Server.
At this point, while Queelag's Furysword is cool looking - it relies on humanity for its attack power and, even with humanity at the cap, it still does less damage than the +10 Fire Server - which is also easier to make and upgrade due to the ease of farming the red titanite.
Now, if you want to farm demon titanite (2 guaranteed demon titanite on every drop) - here's what I did.
In the ruins of izelath there is a titanite demon on a long bridge to the right of where the boss is. Instead of going to the boss, run down the root to the right, up the small staircase and onto the bridge. He respawns and drops 2 demon titanite every time. Mages will have an easier time with this than melee due to how close things are.
So, get onto the bridge and kill him. Since I'm melee, and to speed things up with as little risk as possible, I used Strong Magic Shield, The Mask of the Child that I bought off Patches (it regens stamina), and the Grass Shield (which also regens stamina). I then cast Strong Magic Shield onto my shield and went at him with my Dragon King's GreatAxe for a lot of quick damage. Took around 7 hits to kill him.
The reason I used Strong Magic Shield wasn't so that I could block - right now if you use that spell it makes you invulnerable to ALL damage. So, I used it, switched back to my weapon and went at it. It only lasts for about 20 seconds, though, so be mindful of the time limit so you can get away and recast. Also, you can't 2 hand your weapon while using magic shield as it will dispel the effect - so that's why you want a lot of poise and a very strong/heavy weapon so that you can do lots of damage fast and stagger the demon.
Warp back to the previous bonfire using a bone (the one in the second tower in the lava), and rinse and repeat. The enemies there are super slow so you can run past all of them, and with some strong magic, or the above method, you're set. Takes me about 3 - 4 minutes to do a run and it results in 2 demon titanite each time.
In addition to your technique of taking out tougher enemies in melee, everyone should consider using Iron Flesh. Because of this I feel that I've cheesed bosses. It reduces a TON of stagger and you only take 30% damage (except lightning which is 75%). I beat
Nito
on my second try while ignoring his minions. Just pop an estus flask when you feel like you are going to die soon. Because you don't really get staggered you can just keep swinging wait til your stamina regens and then continue. I also beat
Seath
on my second try using the same technique and
the four kings
in under 10 tries.
My weapon was a +5 lightning spear. And my vitality is at 9, with 10 weight of armor... if I can do it with that low resistance and health and no shield I couldn't imagine how easy it would be for you guys.
aren't any Necromancers in the Tomb of Giants other than the ones in the room before Nito, and Nito himself, hence why there aren't regenerating skeletons anywhere else.
In addition to your technique of taking out tougher enemies in melee, everyone should consider using Iron Flesh. Because of this I feel that I've cheesed bosses. It reduces a TON of stagger and you only take 30% damage (except lightning which is 75%). I beat
Niko
on my second try while ignoring his minions. Just pop an estus flask when you feel like you are going to die soon. Because you don't really get staggered you can just keep swinging wait til your stamina regens and then continue. I also beat
Seath
on my second try using the same technique and
the four kings
in under 10 tries.
My weapon was a +5 lightning spear. And my vitality is at 9, with 10 weight of armor... if I can do it with that low resistance and health I couldn't imagine how easy it would be for you guys.
That spell is great, but wasn't ideal for this situation as it kills your mobility. The demon I was fighting likes to jump all over the place, so I wanted to make sure I was mobile. I have definitely used iron flesh on many occasions, though, as it turns me into a complete beast.
LordCanti said:
They actually do revive in the
Catacombs if you don't use a divine weapon
which makes no sense =/
It's the inconsistency that bugs me.
Also lol @ guy that invaded me in the Tomb of Giants. He got "vanquished" before he ever got to me . Not sure how he planned to find me anyway.
Edit: Just beat him. Thanks for the strategy of not going to the back.
It's only the catacombs - in the tomb of giants they don't revive anywhere except the boss.
Oh, and you're welcome - I died a few times until I realized that myself. I did the entire battle without any divine weapons, though - I just GreatAxe'd everything to death with my AOE attack.
In addition to your technique of taking out tougher enemies in melee, everyone should consider using Iron Flesh. Because of this I feel that I've cheesed bosses. It reduces a TON of stagger and you only take 30% damage (except lightning which is 75%). I beat
Nito
on my second try while ignoring his minions. Just pop an estus flask when you feel like you are going to die soon. Because you don't really get staggered you can just keep swinging wait til your stamina regens and then continue. I also beat
Seath
on my second try using the same technique and
the four kings
in under 10 tries.
My weapon was a +5 lightning spear. And my vitality is at 9, with 10 weight of armor... if I can do it with that low resistance and health I couldn't imagine how easy it would be for you guys.
That spell is great, but wasn't ideal for this situation as it kills your mobility. The demon I was fighting likes to jump all over the place, so I wanted to make sure I was mobile. I have definitely used iron flesh on many occasions, though, as it turns me into a complete beast.
Yeah it turns a damage dealer based character into the equivalent of a boss. It works GREAT on AI because they tend to keep running up to you regardless. It is what I use to beat groups of enemies and strong, slower enemies.
I'm done. I literally cannot get pass these archers and I'm not having fun getting back to them. Those lightning bat things aren't fun even with their attack patterns and a lightning resist shield. Giant harpoon archers on this one walkway isn't challenging or fun, it's cheap and shitty. Which is a shame because I absolutely love everything else so far.
I got stuck for a bit here, too. If you can stomach it, exit the area and go buy some Poison Arrows. I got past those two archers by basically just shooting each one with an arrow and letting the poison do its work until they died. It was a cheese ball way to beat it, but meh, I'll take it.
Smough and Ornstein --- I'm really glad I stuck with my decision to solo them. It's easily the most difficult boss battle I've had so far, especially since I'm a melee only character, but the feeling of happiness that I got from finally beating them made everything worth it. I took out Smough first but I tried it both ways. It may have been easier the other way but I didn't know because the one time I did it I died super fast and decided not to go that route again.
When I finished the fight I found a message at the top of the stairs, just outside the boss room. It simply said, "elation." Well said my mystical phantom friend, well freakin' said.
Indeed - I've been wearing it the entire game. My girl looks badass, especially now that I swapped out the hood and the pants for the Gold-Trimmed stuff. She looks like a Wanderer Nazgul.
Oh, and you're welcome - I died a few times until I realized that myself. I did the entire battle without any divine weapons, though - I just GreatAxe'd everything to death with my AOE attack.
No divine weapons for me... lol I didn't even realize he had minions. Just ran up and kept stabbing the guy until I went low on health (then healed) or was about to run out of Iron Flesh which resulted in me switching back to 1-handing to prepare to re-cast it.
Still rockin' the Gold Hemmed Black armor, huh? That's what I'm using right now.
I think the armor and weapons are much cooler in Dark Souls than they were in Demon's Souls. I feel like there are a lot more options, but that could just be me.
It's only the catacombs - in the tomb of giants they don't revive anywhere except the boss.
Oh, and you're welcome - I died a few times until I realized that myself. I did the entire battle without any divine weapons, though - I just GreatAxe'd everything to death with my AOE attack.
Nito take care of the three skeletons himself with his AOE, and just stabbed relentlessly with my lightning halberd, while turtling during AOE. Took maybe a minute and a half, and the skeletons really never put up a fight.
Also wow at the
scenery outside the room before Nito. You really get a sense that this game was probably designed to happen inside the big ass tree from Dark Souls before Sony decided that they didn't want to pay for the licence, or whatever happened.
The_Darkest_Red said:
Still rockin' the Gold Hemmed Black armor, huh? That's what I'm using right now.
I think the armor and weapons are much cooler in Dark Souls than they were in Demon's Souls. I feel like there are a lot more options, but that could just be me.
No divine weapons for me... lol I didn't even realize he had minions. Just ran up and kept stabbing the guy until I went low on health (then healed) or was about to run out of Iron Flesh which resulted in me switching back to 1-handing to prepare to re-cast it.
Haha, yeah, I didn't even use any iron flesh or strong magic shield in that battle. I just went with high poise all around and the skeletons never had a chance to stay up for more than a few seconds.
Some people talk crap about the Dragon weapons, but I'm not seeing it. At +5 nothing comes close to the raw attack power of the Dragon King's GreatAxe - and the AOE attack is amazing. In one attack I can kill multiple enemies, or do 800 - 1000 damage to a boss.
What makes this game so great, I think, is the many ways that you can tackle a situation as well as the conversation that it generates. People love to talk stats, compare upgrades, and talk about all the amazing ways that they beat a situation
So what do you guys think about setting the PvP level cap at 50? It is pretty easy to get to and it allows you to PvP everyone from 40-60 which is a pretty good gap and level to invade people.
I plan on starting a new character strictly built for PvP built around stamina regen, and speed. Getting the backflipping ring, the stamina regen ring, the stamina shield, and the stamina mask. Sure the shield only has 95 reduct for physical, but I think it should still do fine. I'll be one of the most mobile PvPers out there... screw armor. lol... End at 40 for max stamina, Vit at 30 to get a good amount of HP (also the peak before diminishing returns). What do some of you PvPers think? Would it be viable?
I'd be running Lightning or Fire to ignore stat scaling.
Now, if you want to farm demon titanite (2 guaranteed demon titanite on every drop) - here's what I did.
In the ruins of izelath there is a titanite demon on a long bridge to the right of where the boss is. Instead of going to the boss, run down the root to the right, up the small staircase and onto the bridge. He respawns and drops 2 demon titanite every time. Mages will have an easier time with this than melee due to how close things are.
So, get onto the bridge and kill him. Since I'm melee, and to speed things up with as little risk as possible, I used Strong Magic Shield, The Mask of the Child that I bought off Patches (it regens stamina), and the Grass Shield (which also regens stamina). I then cast Strong Magic Shield onto my shield and went at him with my Dragon King's GreatAxe for a lot of quick damage. Took around 7 hits to kill him.
The reason I used Strong Magic Shield wasn't so that I could block - right now if you use that spell it makes you invulnerable to ALL damage. So, I used it, switched back to my weapon and went at it. It only lasts for about 20 seconds, though, so be mindful of the time limit so you can get away and recast. Also, you can't 2 hand your weapon while using magic shield as it will dispel the effect - so that's why you want a lot of poise and a very strong/heavy weapon so that you can do lots of damage fast and stagger the demon.
Warp back to the previous bonfire using a bone (the one in the second tower in the lava), and rinse and repeat. The enemies there are super slow so you can run past all of them, and with some strong magic, or the above method, you're set. Takes me about 3 - 4 minutes to do a run and it results in 2 demon titanite each time.
You, sir, are a life-saver. I was getting bored with the Furysword + Lightning Spear routine and I was about to upgrade this nifty Great Scythe. Also, I forgot where you can do this (at least I think so), but where can you get Homeward Bones?
Getting cursed sucks.. I went to the Undead Parish and did a trade with the crow. What a pain.. I her the other way to get a curse removed is the priest at the bell tower?
You, sir, are a life-saver. I was getting bored with the Furysword + Lightning Spear routine and I was about to upgrade this nifty Great Scythe. Also, I forgot where you can do this (at least I think so), but where can you get Homeward Bones?
There's a couple vendors that sell them - try going to the undead woman that's near firelink shrine on the way towards the sewers. They're 800 souls each, but you get more souls than that just farming the demon anyway so it pays for itself.
Is there a boss by boss run down of what the optimum level you need to be to give/receive help online? I have no idea if I'm over or under leveled at any given time to use the online functionality.
You, sir, are a life-saver. I was getting bored with the Furysword + Lightning Spear routine and I was about to upgrade this nifty Great Scythe. Also, I forgot where you can do this (at least I think so), but where can you get Homeward Bones?
The merchant at the Depths/Undead Burg shortcut sells them.
Interfectum said:
Is there a boss by boss run down of what the optimum level you need to be to give/receive help online? I have no idea if I'm over or under leveled at any given time to use the online functionality.
You, sir, are a life-saver. I was getting bored with the Furysword + Lightning Spear routine and I was about to upgrade this nifty Great Scythe. Also, I forgot where you can do this (at least I think so), but where can you get Homeward Bones?
It is also worth buying the Homeward miracle and a talisman. It equals infinite homeward bone. It only has one use, but when you use it it refreshes itself. If you have the attunement slot available this works out much better.
So I just beat Quelaag but I still haven't found a good weapon I like that I want to invest into for upgrading - I'm still using the Drake Sword. My character is a pretty light build focused on mobility, so I'd prefer something fairly quick. Anybody have any recommendations?
It is also worth buying the Homeward miracle and a talisman. It equals infinite homeward bone. It only has one use, but when you use it it refreshes itself. If you have the attunement slot available this works out much better.
That too. Unfortunately, I only have one attunement slot as a beefy warrior dude and I need my poise ring (the other is the one that boosts load/endurance/hp so I can't take it off) - so bones was my only option
I only needed 3 of them to get the titanite I needed, though, so it's not like I spent a lot of souls.
HeresSomeWeapons said:
So I just beat Quelaag but I still haven't found a good weapon I like that I want to invest into for upgrading - I'm still using the Drake Sword. My character is a pretty light build focused on mobility, so I'd prefer something fairly quick. Anybody have any recommendations?
Make a +10 Fire Weapon, or use Queelag's soul to make Queelag's Furysword which is a scimitar and is very quick. Either one will work, but as I noted a bit earlier (20 - 25 posts up), Fire out damages Chaos and is cheaper/easier to do.
I've graduated from DS1 Winged Spear to the Dark Souls Halberd... fucking love it. It takes a little more skill to wield but it's so awesome. And looks cool.
The AoE does hit you from behind sometimes, just not always. Also, while behind him, he will sometimes fly up in the air and try to land on you. Of course you just run back behind him when he does this, but it does change the dynamics a little. Either way, if you never got hit by the explosion while standing behind him, and he never flew up in the air, you got extremely lucky
But he telegraphs that AoE badly, so I just backed up and got out of the radius. It may hit if you are directly behind him, but it's not nearly as hard to avoid as when you are in front.
He did jump at me a ton, probably 4-5 times, but that was easy to dodge, and other bosses have had versions of that move that were much harder to deal with.
Sorry if I wasn't clear... I mean optimum level for co-oping / helping other players on a boss-per-boss level. The level range you can summon is only 10% right? So when I'm fighting a certain boss I'd like to be in the main average so there is a better chance I can get a co-op buddy to help.
Sorry if I wasn't clear... I mean optimum level for co-oping / helping other players on a boss-per-boss level. The level range you can summon is only 10% right? So when I'm fighting a certain boss I'd like to be in the main average so there is a better chance I can get a co-op buddy to help.
#1 guy in book of guilty is 45. That's what I shot for. Seems like a good level. Seeing lots of white signs around this level. 45 on my new character right now. Now focused on upgrading items and getting darkwraith. Then its invasion time.
I was actually going to ask if anyone from Euro-GAF could help me. If some of you guys dropped summon signs would I see them?
I only have 2 humanity left, don't want to waste it I was human earlier but idled for a pee and a black phantom killed me Well by the time I noticed I'd lost most of my HP.
I've managed to get it down to one guy twice, but the dude keeps 1 hit killing me from a spear stab/electricity combo.
Made good progress in a limited time--right before having to pick up my kids from school. Felt damn good. Made it out of Undead Burg to the Parish, beat the Boar, beat a huge ass Knight and got his steel armor and helm, found the next bonfire and the blacksmith. So satisfying.
Question: what Strength do you need to wield the Halberd?
. Not sure how he planned to find me anyway.
