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StMeph said:
If by forest you mean Darkroot, there's one wielding a spear near
the Bonfire that connects Darkroot Basin to the Valley of Drakes
; there's also loot:
Grass Crest Shield
nearby.
I'm sad because I tried to fight him, he was winning, but then we both fell off the cliff! Got the loot first, though.
 
Forgive me if asked but isn't there a way to circumvent that 20k soul door in the garden by going through a waterfall or something? I spent all my souls from Gaping upgrading my character and am now far from 20k lol

Oh and protip for sorcerers and Gaping. Equip low weight armor such as black leather. Helps running and dodging around him to cast spells MUCH easier than heavy armor.
 
Guevara said:
Evidence for not a glitch: you have to kill
the Black Knight before you can reach the tower to kill the dragon (and there's nothing else to do on that tower besides enjoy the view),
plus that's the only way to access the bonfire and shortcut (as far as I know).

The purpose of the tower is to take on the Black Knight and get his souls and loot ;) Also you can not consistently see the dragon from the top of the tower, it works for some and not others. If you want to get in the dragons room, you can cross the bridge and take him on with melee. You can also strip naked and with excellent timing lure him out to melee range and run under the gate while he is flying towards you on the bridge. I BELIEVE this causes him to fly away as well, but as I could not successfully do this I can't verify if its the same glitch behaviour.

Also if it's not a glitch feel free to stand on the bridge and shoot an arrow at his head ;) He disappears because if you shoot him with an arrow (from under the bridge) he flies up and on top of the bridge in order to start stomping to shake rocks around you, and then flies back to the gate. Since you are not under the bridge for him to fly to, the game screws up and he vanishes.
 
Psy-Phi said:
Haven't encountered any yet but my first inclination when getting knocked off is to stop getting knocked off. Have you tried a heavier armor that gives you some poise? Knight Armor will assist you in not getting knocked around so much. Or a shield with hi stability. I'd go with Armor first. So far all the knights I've fought have been straight forward battles.

Never thought to try this, great idea! I'm going to get out the ol' Stone Armor later and give it a shot. I have been stuck in this spot for a while now.
 
Side note: I am LOVING sniping/headshotting baddies with my longbow. I am VERY early like level 17 with my best stat being DEX.
 
Humanity is confusing me. Just getting to first castle boss but can't stay undead and not finding humanity. Been hallowed almost from the start.

Do I need to be human to summon npcs for boss fights and what are the other advantages to being in human form? More health?
 
PumpkinPie said:
It seems like people are at the same place as me in the game but actually have spells, equipment etc. I'm like level 25, doing Undead Parish and all I have is the stuff I started out with, not a single thing more...well, except for Boar Helm.



What... I'm level 10 and I'm doing Undead Parish. Am I doing it wrong or something? :P When I got to the first bonfire I went towards where the giant bird and the skeletons are, saw they were too strong and then I went up the other way.
 
any pro-tips for a newb wanderer? here is what I'm planning on doing:

STR to 16 for drake sword

after that,

main focus: dex
medium focus: end
minimal focus: vit

Does that sound like a pretty typical way to build? I'm planning on going sword/bow with a bit of faith magic if possible.
 
I fucking killed griggs damnit. Went to break the barrels next to him and got a piece of him. Immediately went to the xbox menu and it didn't matter, was saved. bleh
 
I've seen a few peeps mention it, how do you go back to the tutorial level again?

Also, at Firelink Shrine mid game-ish spoiler
I saw a caption pop up with the dialogue Hrrrm, Hrrrm or something along those lines by the pool. Is there a creature running around there or was that the Raven talking to me? Ran around for a bit but didn't find anything
 
When can I start giving my weapons lighting and fire powers? I've got the Lightning Spear which just completely beats all my other weapons in the damage department and want some other weapons like it.
 
UGHHHHH, I need enough souls to remove curse... and yeah, I've already gotten two purification stones from the crows nest in the past. God... damnit. lol
 
CcrooK said:
I thought I heard there's a way to have npc's help you with boss fights?

They look like messages on the ground, only scrawled in a white light. The ones to summon NPCs look identical to the ones other players leave, except, obviously, for their names. So check the names.

Generally, the NPCs available at each boss are limited. For some areas, you'll have to be human and vanquish an NPC Black Phantom, which then allows that phantom to be summoned for the nearby boss. Some others, like
Solaire
, travel around, but it seems like you HAVE to call him at every step of the way where he's available to ensure that he continues on to the next one. Not sure if that's true or not though.
 
Interfectum said:
any pro-tips for a newb wanderer? here is what I'm planning on doing:

STR to 16 for drake sword

after that,

main focus: dex
medium focus: end
minimal focus: vit

Does that sound like a pretty typical way to build? I'm planning on going sword/bow with a bit of faith magic if possible.
only use the required amount for each weapon you want to use in str and dex. those points will be better spent in Vit, End, Res and faith(if you want to use miracles, the scaling isnt worth it)
 
CcrooK said:
I thought I heard there's a way to have npc's help you with boss fights?

Yep in a few ways. You have to be in human form first.

Top Belltower boss fight - you can summon the Solaire knight, and he's been a popular summon for that fight.

Gaping boss fight - you can summon Solaire again. Hilariously, you can also summon
Lautrec
. If you don't know who that is yet, don't worry about it.

Capra boss fight - no soup for you

Bottom bell boss fight - if you're in human form
then when you're near the boss' lair you'll be invaded by an NPC. Defeat her and her white summon sign will show up before the boss.

With other bosses I've fought, I haven't seen NPC signs. Dunno about future ones yet.
 
33-Hit-Combo said:
In the first room with the swinging stuff, drop down on the other end, take out the 3 snake men, then drop again to find 4 Faceless demons, then there's a ladder, at the top stab to get rid of the ghost wall.

Ok what lvl should you be able to take Drakes on? Melee, not ranged.

i'm SL74 and i do crap damage to those dragons. Perhaps i should change my weapon
 
Sir Garbageman said:
I've seen a few peeps mention it, how do you go back to the tutorial level again?

Also, at Firelink Shrine mid game-ish spoiler
I saw a caption pop up with the dialogue Hrrrm, Hrrrm or something along those lines by the pool. Is there a creature running around there or was that the Raven talking to me? Ran around for a bit but didn't find anything

I had that happen pretty much in the beginning of the game, I was like wtf?
 
Badgerst3 said:
Humanity is confusing me. Just getting to first castle boss but can't stay undead and not finding humanity. Been hallowed almost from the start.

Do I need to be human to summon npcs for boss fights and what are the other advantages to being in human form? More health?

If you aren't doing item farming, etc (which I would consider more 'advanced play' to be concerned about stats like that) there are two benefits only to it (and they are pretty big):

1) Summon other players NPCs. Keep in mind that not all boss fights (many don't) even have an NPC to summon. Summoning other players must be within +/- 10% of your level.

2) You can kindle bonfires. This also costs an extra humanity (in addition to the one you spend to become human should you have died). It now gives you 10 flasks instead of 5 which is very useful, and PERMANENT. Whenever you use that bonfire from then until the end of the game, you get 10 instead of 5. Example, the first bonfire in Undead Burg you should kindle that if you can, you will be using it... a lot ;)
 
I've been so terrible about kindling bonfires. Literally the only one I've kindled so far is the Undead Burg one. I am a poor firekeeper.
 
Zeliard said:
Yep in a few ways. You have to be in human form first.

Top Belltower boss fight - you can summon the Solaire knight, and he's been a popular summon for that fight.

Gaping boss fight - you can summon Solaire again. Hilariously, you can also summon
Lautrec
. If you don't know who that is yet, don't worry about it.

Capra boss fight - no soup for you

Bottom bell boss fight - if you're in human form
then when you're near the boss' lair you'll be invaded by an NPC. Defeat her and her white summon sign will show up before the boss.

With other bosses I've fought, I haven't seen NPC signs. Dunno about future ones yet.

There is one more for the Butterfly boss, you have to break a shrub at the bottom of the tower stairs just before going to the fog door. Shes a caster so useful for melee players and will hit the boss with Heavy Soul arrow.
 
Sir Garbageman said:
I've seen a few peeps mention it, how do you go back to the tutorial level again?

Also, at Firelink Shrine mid game-ish spoiler
I saw a caption pop up with the dialogue Hrrrm, Hrrrm or something along those lines by the pool. Is there a creature running around there or was that the Raven talking to me? Ran around for a bit but didn't find anything
You'll need to work your way up to the crow. Take the elevator up to Undead Parish, but walk out before it reaches the top. There's a buttress you can roll onto that will lead you to the Undead Asylum key and the crow's nest.

You'll find out what that strange dialogue was from later. :)
 
Zeliard said:
I've been so terrible about kindling bonfires. Literally the only one I've kindled so far is the Undead Burg one. I am a poor firekeeper.

Why? All you need is humanity and that's pretty easy to come by.. Imo I want to kindle every bonfire!
 
Oracle Dragon said:
There is one more for the Butterfly boss, you have to break a shrub at the bottom of the tower stairs just before going to the fog door. Shes a caster so useful for melee players and will hit the boss with Heavy Soul arrow.

Wow, did not know about that one at all. Pretty cool.
 
Interfectum said:
any pro-tips for a newb wanderer? here is what I'm planning on doing:

STR to 16 for drake sword

after that,

main focus: dex
medium focus: end
minimal focus: vit

Does that sound like a pretty typical way to build? I'm planning on going sword/bow with a bit of faith magic if possible.

Endurance first than dex, I don't really like vit...
 
fuzzyreactor said:
only use the required amount for each weapon you want to use in str and dex. those points will be better spent in Vit, End, Res and faith(if you want to use miracles, the scaling isnt worth it)

Where should i keep a lookout for a good bow then? Doesn't archery scale pretty good with dex?
 
Zeliard said:
I've been so terrible about kindling bonfires. Literally the only one I've kindled so far is the Undead Burg one. I am a poor firekeeper.
ive only kindled one so far and im 70 hours in the game. dont really need 10 flask
 
Zeliard said:
I've been so terrible about kindling bonfires. Literally the only one I've kindled so far is the Undead Burg one. I am a poor firekeeper.

I have no idea why you wouldn't. Having 10 flasks is a necessity at some points.
 
Fuck the Depths.

What a shithole. Walked in there, got my ass handed to me by a butcher with two huge blades, slimes that don't look nice, small rats, big rats and a HUGE rat also a basilisk like creatures that fart poison.

Fell down three holes, deeper and deeper into this place and still haven't seen a bonfire. I'm in a huge room right now where I think is the boss but I can't see him yet.

Pretty nervous for this bossfight :(
 
Zeliard said:
I've been so terrible about kindling bonfires. Literally the only one I've kindled so far is the Undead Burg one. I am a poor firekeeper.
Your kindling carries over into NG+. You should do it!
 
Errr.. Okay is it normal for the Black Knight to respawn in Sen's Fortress? None of the other knights respawned, I killed him then died went there to get my souls but he is still alive. Weird.
 
Geek said:
You'll need to work your way up to the crow. Take the elevator up to Undead Parish, but walk out before it reaches the top. There's a buttress you can roll onto that will lead you to the Undead Asylum key and the crow's nest.

You'll find out what that strange dialogue was from later. :)

Thanks. This this the elevator that leads to the church right?
 
Wimps said:
Fuck the Depths.

What a shithole. Walked in there, got my ass handed to me by a butcher with two huge blades, slimes that don't look nice, small rats, big rats and a HUGE rat also a basilisk like creatures that fart poison.

Fell down three holes, deeper and deeper into this place and still haven't seen a bonfire. I'm in a huge room right now where I think is the boss but I can't see him yet.

Pretty nervous for this bossfight :(

The butcher looks intimidating but is actually pretty easy (and there are two of them):
Just be patient with the attack. Stay away from all of his swings and don't try and hit him. When he holds his knife horizontally and smashes them into the ground, that's when you hit him 1-2 times and back out. Takes a bit to kill him but easy, safe, and he doesn't re spawn anyways.
 
Sir Garbageman said:
I've seen a few peeps mention it, how do you go back to the tutorial level again?

Once you go to Undead Parish and unlock
the elevator shortcut
, you can access the upper part of Firelink Shrine.

Basically:
1)
Ride the elevator. From the ground up, you'll notice a small area that's more like the second floor of the broken ruins. Run/roll out of the elevator on to that area.
2)
Follow the route and along the cliff to a small precipice from where you can see the broken spire.
3)
Look for a buttress below the precipice that you can roll on to. Roll there.
4)
You should now be able to ascend the spire. You can now also reach the rooftop to get the loot, which is a key for the remaining locked door in Undead Asylum (you should be able to roll back to the upper tier of the spire from the roof with the loot)
5)
Go all the way to the top, and there will be an option to curl into a ball in the giant raven's nest. Do so if you want to go to Undead Asylum
 
Man these glitches are fucking annoying, I'm sure everyone and their mother knows about the (vague hint: Red & Bridge)
dragon on the bridge
. Just had another similar thing happen now. After joining a covenant (vague hint: Really bad breath I guess)
Path of the Dragon
the big damn thing in the water you can just run by just upped and died giving me 10k souls and some fucking scales. Great... I mean shit I wanted to FIGHT the damn thing in a couple of days when I had some better shit.

Thing is, how does stuff like this happen... QA please!
 
Interfectum said:
Where should i keep a lookout for a good bow then? Doesn't archery scale pretty good with dex?
yes and no. well the pharis bow has s scaling for dex but even at +10 and 40 dex a composite lightning bow will do more damage and you can save the stat point you would of used to scal the pharis bow for something else. Dragon slayer great bow is also pretty beastly and that requires 20 dex/str which scale c/c but is slow to shoot and requires special arrows
 
zazrx said:
Can someone explain how weapon damage scaling works? I have around 40 STR but I feel I wasted a ton of points there...

damage bonuses are depended on the weapon itself. Go to the weapon information and there should be icons with rank S to E
 
Wimps said:
Fuck the Depths.

What a shithole. Walked in there, got my ass handed to me by a butcher with two huge blades, slimes that don't look nice, small rats, big rats and a HUGE rat also a basilisk like creatures that fart poison.

Fell down three holes, deeper and deeper into this place and still haven't seen a bonfire. I'm in a huge room right now where I think is the boss but I can't see him yet.

Pretty nervous for this bossfight :(

You passed a bonfire:

After you leave the area with the two butchers you come to a long water filled hallway with a bunch of slimes on the ceiling and a hollow with a torch in front. Strait ahead is a bonfire, to the left is a staircase down leading to a room where you get a view of the giant rat and the sewers proper.
 
Buuuh, I finished up in the Depths, didn't fancy heading to Blighty. Went and restocked up on arrows/bombs in Undead Burg, headed to the blacksmith to buy his Crest key and use all but 3k souls on weapon upgades, then I climbed the Church to -- finally! -- remove my Curse. Hurrah motion.

Wondering what next to do --- and I'll keep spoilers as vague as I can here --- I headed beyond the Blacksmith and met a handicapped monster who was none-too-friendly, ran past him. End up in a wooded area and start poking about, half looking for this door that my new 20k key will open and half just looking for trouble. A few new enemies rush me from the bushes but I'm relieved that they go down pretty fast. Next thing I know I'm descending a cliffside into a basin area and get jumped by a 7'-tall jerk in a horned helmet who came out of nowhere. I see some treasure ahead of me so I run and grab it accepting my imminent death (new shield!) then turn around and somehow manage to fumble/roll my way straight underneath the evil knight's *massive* attack swing. I run blindly and see a cave entrance.. do I head inside or do I climb back up the mountain path? I headed to the cave. The exit to this cave leads.... somewhere I REALLY don't think I should be at Lv21. So I'm now holed up in a rock tunnel, groups of scaly purple death at the far end, blade-wielding heavy breather at the front end. Adventure!
 
Does anyone know what happens if you manage to kill the crow that brings to to the shrine. He just hangs there and I can shoot and damage with arrows, but I'm scared I'll fuxor something up.
 
zazrx said:
Can someone explain how weapon damage scaling works? I have around 40 STR but I feel I wasted a ton of points there...

Look on the stats for the weapon, you should see a section with a few letters and dashes suh as C/C/-/-

The icon beside the latter tells you what the stat is, and the letter tells you how much bonus it gets from the stat. Worst to best is E-->D-->C-->B-->A-->S. Most regular weapons seem to be a "C", while unique are B or sometimes A. I've never seen an S I assume it near the end of the game.

If you are using a non scaling weapon (ie: Drake Sword) then you will see no extra benefit from increasing your stats.
 
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