This is senseless.
GFWL problems are real; denying it with that argument is the same as a smoker trying to negate cigarettes harmfulness saying: "I never had cancer so they're ok".
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Dark Souls PC trailer [Matchmaking, new bosses, enemies, NPCs, weapons, armor, areas]
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GFWL problems are real; denying it with that argument is the same as a smoker trying to negate cigarettes harmfulness saying: "I never had cancer so they're ok".
JanKowalski
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I obviously meant the initial reviews, when the game comes out.
Felix Lighter
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Unless they really screw up the port, a 5850 should handle the game perfectly.
hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka
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I'd prefer that they use Steamworks but as long as it runs functions fine, I don't care if it's GFWL, Origin, Impulse or whatever. Most of the issues people have with GFWL haven't been issues since 2008.
Pretty much this right here guys and gals.
Phonomezer
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No, that's bullshit. Who was expecting a PC release 6 months ago? Nobody.
You're all just being entitled babies. I've never seen this kind of entitlement before. People rag on about PC gamers being entitled for various reasons, but when they release new content for a new system with a release of a game, console gamers do the same exact shit.
PC gamers get this all the time, you don't see us bitching and moaning.
PC gamers get this all the time, you don't see us bitching and moaning.
I hate whoever created this word.
Lol you are a big baby. Fucking deal with it. It happens all the time. You can do like everyone else does, and just rebuy the content.
Usually the technical reasons is they'd have to release it on the consoles ($) then add achievements because they otherwise wont let it be put on ($), then test it ($), then only get a portion of the sales because of the huge cut psn and xbl take. More than likely, they figured it isn't worth it.
"entitlement" is the new "compelling" as far as buzzwords goes, judging by this thread and the last few weeks on the internet.
So a few questions:
1. Any specifics on this new matchmaking thing? Is it like free battle, a reworking on the current online system, or what?
2. There really is no hope for fixing hacker problems now that it's on GFWL, is there?
3. What are you most hyped for in this expansion?
4. Why are you so entitled?
1. Any specifics on this new matchmaking thing? Is it like free battle, a reworking on the current online system, or what?
2. There really is no hope for fixing hacker problems now that it's on GFWL, is there?
3. What are you most hyped for in this expansion?
4. Why are you so entitled?
And yet, it was the same entitlement that caused PC fans to protest and sign the begging charter and manage to get From/Namco to make the port.
I am happy more people get to play Dark Souls, since I want FromSoft to keep making awesome games but PC users should count themselves lucky that From/Namco even gave a damn about an Internet Petition.
Should Console gamers get the additional content? No but that depends on how friendly From/Namco feel.
Takamura-San
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Didn't the creator said that there wouldn't be any more content for the game a while back?
Someone asked him about DLC and he said that all the content is what's on the disc and that's it?
Someone asked him about DLC and he said that all the content is what's on the disc and that's it?
He was pretty Anti-DLC at the begging. I think he changed after seeing how much people loved the world and characters.
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I doubt anyone would feel happy about Namco taking the easy way out on a PC port so they could get more money off of less work.
If we just feel good that it got this far then we'd be setting bad precedent for future titles.
And of course their main market should get the expansion. That's money in the bank for them and just working with things already on the disk to some degree. Leaving out their main market is a stupid idea overall.
He's anti-DLC in it's modern form. What we have here is a traditional expansion pack. Things here in this expansion were just not done/couldn't work on the initial release. From example the Guyra and Manticore were in the disk but only their gray model.
D3RANG3D
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Didn't the whole thing start because one of the community managers at the namco forums basically said if you want Dark Souls for PC you should do a petition, I think it was going to happen anyways. More Japanese games on steam so when we "begged" for it they can basically get good PR by saying you asked for it and here it is!
Felix Lighter
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Damn, you figured it out. All these unfounded claims against the superior GFWL platform were just shameful fabrications created by Steam fanboys.
Way back in January EGM posted that DLC was confirmed, called Forest of Darkness (or Dark Forest) based on a From trademark, and would be out in the first quarter of this year (obviously not).
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/exclusive-dark-souls-dlc-exists-coming-soon/
I wonder if they were actually hearing about this or they were just wrong.
http://www.egmnow.com/articles/news/exclusive-dark-souls-dlc-exists-coming-soon/
I wonder if they were actually hearing about this or they were just wrong.
Yep, it's probably the expansion's name for consoles. Got held back so PC gamers can hear they get all this stuff first and feel like From/Namco is treating them well.
But man, all this new stuff. I WANT IT NOW.
vikingvessel
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Slightly reworded today and no less inaccurate than when you gave it a whirl yesterday. PC gamers bitch and moan [GFWL] just like everybody else. Doesn't make their concerns any more or less valid than a conflicting opinion. Stop exempting them as if they are above it. One group will be happy and another will not and debate ensues. For you to continue to attempt to sell this as if the recent Witcher 2 gripes along the exact same lines with the roles reversed never happened doesn't make much sense.
hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka
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GAF Drinking Game: Take a shot whenever you see :lol, a rage comic, misuse of the word "troll", My Little Pony gifs, shitty image macro, the word "entitlement".
Its GFWL?
Hahahahahaha.
Fine I'll buy the damn ps3 version.
Shouldn't have waited.
I got excited too until I saw GFWL.
So a game can't be on GFWL and on STEAM?
Didn't realize there was a PC fragmentation like this where it can only be on one service.
Felix Lighter
Member
That's not the case. Most GFWL games are sold on Steam.
hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka
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There are plenty of GFWL games on Steam. Just imagine you had to use Xbox Live and PSN at the same time. Two different sets of friends, two different overlays, etc.
Some people get upset, even when they are multiplatform console owners that a game is on ps3 and not on xbox 360 because they prefer xbl over psn.
Same I guess is true with pc games, I prefer my games on steam. Didn't realize it until I started seeing games I wanted on GFWL and not steam.
Kind of kills the whole pc is better when its services are as fragmented as consoles.
What is the reason for not allowing to be on all pc game services?
Then I don't understand and could use some explanation on why I would buy say this game on gfwl over steam. If I buy it through steam what does gfwl have to do with it?
They wouldn't need to take time to code it specifically for Steam or anything else. GFWL allows them to make a quick and easy port of the Xbox version.
Felix Lighter
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It's not about where you buy it. It's the GFWL software that surrounds the game that people have an issues with. No matter where you buy the game, it will include the GFWL APIs.
Does this affect match making? Will it try to match my steam friends or try to connect me to a gfwl community only?
vikingvessel
Member
I am extremely delighted over the entire DkS PC affair and really dig when FROM makes such direct callbacks. For those who have yet to taste, it will be even better than what you have heard.
Let's turn those frowns upside down. There are great times ahead.
It wouldn't use any of Steam's capabilities for matchmaking/online play. It would be GFWL-things only. Steam is just where you bought it from, and where you launch the game from. Everything else will be GFWL.
Sentenza
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But that's not the point. No one is going to buy it on GFWL anyway.
People aren't upset by this cause they can't buy the game on Steam.
People are upset precisely because the game includes GFWL as front end, and for good reasons.
Nope, it will simply use GFWL friend list and (underwhelming, to put it mildly) community features.
hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka
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GFWL games are tied to the GFWL service. Whether you buy it on Steam or the GFWL Marketplace, you're going to have to use GFWL. Buying on Steam just means that GFWL AND Steam required.
For example, I have Dirt 3 on Steam. With a game like Dirt 3, whether you bought it on Steam or GFWL doesn't matter since you're forced to use GFWL anyways. Launching it starts the Steam overlay giving me access to friends, screenshots and the web browser. It also launches GFWL because it's a GFWL game. GFWL itself has it's own friend's list, marketplace, etc.
I'd imagine the GFWL community but I have no idea how they will be working this new matchmaking system. Was there any specifics mentioned?
Self_Destructive
Member
Well, you'd have to have a GFWL account set up and basically download and launch the game through steam then log into GFWL.
Phife Dawg
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So it was my delusional love for Steam that caused the running/update problems and corrupted save on my end. Phew, glad you got that sorted out dude. Thanks a bunch!
I will be gladly awaiting people crying over losing their 100+ hours save. It will be glorious!
zerokoolpsx
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Guyra is the dragon? Never played King's Field.
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