PairOfFilthySocks
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If it turned out that the PC version has adjustable resolutions and free framerate, then yes, there would be a need to wait.
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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition (PC) - New interviews, details, artwork/screens
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If it turned out that the PC version has adjustable resolutions and free framerate, then yes, there would be a need to wait.
From what I've seen this is a game I wouldn't mind paying for twice.
Because they spent money for good, expensive PCs (or otherwise received them anyway) for the sake of running stuff well, and the last thing they want is for that to be squandered with arbitrary locking, especially on resolutions. This is one of those cases where "entitled" being thrown around really can mean "yes they rightly expect to see that" rather than blowing out of proportion someone's complaints. That, and for every mysocksarepink that only has a gaming PC (seemingly) and is glad to have the chance to play it, there seem to be 10 who played it on consoles and love it enough to buy AGAIN to play it better. This is less like wanting an HD-DVD as a blu-ray and more like wanting a DVD released as a blu-ray for these people.
Performance wise they were better, generally. If it wasn't it was probably because you were about to die anyway.
I bet even with 720p/30FPS lock the game will run a lot better than the console versions on most powerful rigs.
Nah. Much better off waiting for more confirmation on this stuff.
Glass Rebel
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You can make up even more "facts" to diminish the PC version, but just based on the extra content alone it's already the better deal.
Dog Problems
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If this turns out to be true, the game will probably be popular enough to have fan made hacks to fix things like framerate, resolution, and possibly even mods.
Not sure I get the reasoning behind this. While it isn't up to pc standards, native 720p and a locked 30fps would still be an improvement over the console versions.
Is it an issue of the consoles being hooked up to 720p tv while the desktop/laptop is running the 1080p/etc resolutions?
Glass Rebel
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StoppedInTracks
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Uh can we ban "entitlement" yet? Thanks.
carbonbased
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thank you. i was going to post the same thing but you were way ahead of me and said it so much better than i would have. that word really is aggravatingly overused. fuck its idiotic subtext.
Glass Rebel
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You should be happy that you can post here at all! You're so entitled!
It's technically banned already, it's in the banned sites/memes section of the FAQ.
sixteen-bit
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Yes, of course. The console versions do not run at 720p, and have frequent frame drops. Still a great game, but even with these recent gimping revelations, the PC version still likes to be the one to get.
Dark Souls |OT| HD Ready version
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A lot of quote-unquote "entitlement" is simply people acting betrayed and angry when their expectations aren't met.
I don't mean to point the finger at anyone in this thread specifically, (note that I haven't accused anyone of entitlement here) but that's basically the problem.
Take the frame-rate thing. If Miyazaki doesn't want to commit to it 60-fps, its going to be for a real, practical, reason under the circumstances he finds himself in.
Now you might not like, or agree with those reasons, but as he's unquestionably in a more informed position than anyone posting (I don't think any FROM engineers lurk here, but whatever), and is the man charged with delivering the product on a certain date, people shouldn't be in such a rush to second-guess him.
The guy clearly cares about his work, and is competent enough to have his name toplining two of the best console games of this generation, but you're going to hang him out to dry over this specific thing... sheesh. Tough crowd.
Its ok to be disappointed, but when what you're getting bent out of shape over is just an assumption of yours based on non-specific general expectations... It seems ungracious and unreasonable to me.
I don't mean to point the finger at anyone in this thread specifically, (note that I haven't accused anyone of entitlement here) but that's basically the problem.
Take the frame-rate thing. If Miyazaki doesn't want to commit to it 60-fps, its going to be for a real, practical, reason under the circumstances he finds himself in.
Now you might not like, or agree with those reasons, but as he's unquestionably in a more informed position than anyone posting (I don't think any FROM engineers lurk here, but whatever), and is the man charged with delivering the product on a certain date, people shouldn't be in such a rush to second-guess him.
The guy clearly cares about his work, and is competent enough to have his name toplining two of the best console games of this generation, but you're going to hang him out to dry over this specific thing... sheesh. Tough crowd.
Its ok to be disappointed, but when what you're getting bent out of shape over is just an assumption of yours based on non-specific general expectations... It seems ungracious and unreasonable to me.
Billychu, you are a good person.
I maxed out Warrior of Sunlight and went to Blade of the Darkmoon. I'm currently cleansing Lost Izalith.
sixteen-bit
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Dark Souls |OT5| "Cinematic", even on PC
D3RANG3D
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I am only speaking for myself here, If you I am assuming here that you are a console gamer 1 hardware config 1 control method 1 resolution etc. that may be fine for you, to me not so much I want to be able to try different input methods and have native resolutions. PC as a platform is about choice my friend.
Miyazaki isn't posting here on gaf, no need to suck up to the guy so much.
PC is a platform that is open to anyone to create whatever they want, and you as a gamer to play whatever you want. If someone wants to create an interactive movie, a deep strategy game that uses every key in your keyboard, or an action RPG that plays with a controller it's the choice of the designer to do so. It is not a platform for the gamers to dictate how games are designed.
For crying out loud, nobody said anything about not being able to play the game in your resolution.
Glass Rebel
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I'd like to see this being enforced. Not that I want people to be banned but it's really detrimental to any discussion. Fucking annoying.
I doubt he could give one good reason for it being locked at 30 instead of 60
I got banned for calling someone entitled many months ago before it was appearing in every topic
I wish it was enforced more, I'll probably never use the word again now thanks to it's sudden over-use (and mis-use)
Before giving any reasons he would have to, you know, say it's locked at 30 in the first place.
Ghost_Protocol
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30's fine. Ueda did the same thing with SoTC HD. It's to preserve the cinematic experience.
PairOfFilthySocks
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Pssh, entitled whiners. We already know the game will load on startup and is not filled with trojan horses. What more do you crybabies want?
What?
Fratkabula
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Aren't keyboards for typing?
+1 for controller as their first preference. More games need to do this.
But it's a GAME, not a movie!
Also, low fps != cinematic. The Hobbit will not be cinematic because it will be 48fps?
Most console focused/originated games DO do this these days actually. You only have bizarre cases like Mass Effect and Bioshock 2 that buck this. There is the issue with PC native games, but go praising the Witcher 2 in its thread for that.
I want you to leave and never come back.
I know you're joking but this is why people should shut it about the entitled shit because at this point it's really just trolling.
It's a thing console gamers have said before to justify bad frame rates
I don't think that post was meant to be taken seriously. And if it was - lol.
Most FPSes are really glorified programs for typing long, long strings of WASD in random orders.
Glass Rebel
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I think nobody is saying From is obliged to support M+KB etc. it's just the sensible thing to do.
If by 'this specific thing' you mean this and the other things as well.
On an off note, since this is rumored to be GFWL coming in a short amount of time, this could most possibly be the 360 version ported over. The one with all the save hacks, unless FROM has fixed that problem or GFWL squelches it. If not, let's add that thing to the list.
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