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[Fox Mulder]

It's just a stupid piece of shit, just like everything else included in any CE.

 

[lethial]

I'd be as embarrassed displaying this as I would be with any other video game pack in.

 

[Spiritreaver]

I think this is lame simply because it objectifies women, but at this point in our society women will forever be objectified. Sex sells.

That aside, I see the humor in the figure and don't really see the big deal. No worse than just about every horror movie ever made. I mean how many films have we seen where a naked, busty, woman covered in blood/guts runs around screaming like crazy then gets killed? People enjoy this shit every day, not just necrophiles or creepy freaks.

In short, this promotion is dumb, but for me it's not for the reasons that everyone else has said. Then again, I'm also a forensics guy so made I'm a little numb to things like this.

 

[Gilby]

I'd be as embarrassed displaying this as I would be with any other video game pack in.

Exactly. It's all cheesy "collectibles", they look bad in anything but a "gaming"/dude room (something with a big screen tv and a bar usually).

 

[Melchiah]

It's probably fair to say that anyone who would want to display this visibly in their home likely doesn't bring a lot of girls over very often.

I'd have nothing against displaying something like that, and members of the fairer sex, including my girlfriend, visit my home quite frequently. I'm quite sure many of my friends would say the same thing. That being said, I have no desire to buy one, or any other game statues for that matter.

I don't really understand what's the big deal with this thing. It's a statue of a B-horror game, which features scantily clad (undead) women, like many other games as well (Bayonetta, Dead or Alive, God of War...). Seems somewhat hypocritical to me.

 

[CoLaN]

How male is GAF?

98%?

No one knows, of course. But 98%? Impossible.
Females play videogames, and use forums, just FYI.

 

[Hi i'm Caleb]

There is no nudity, her breasts are not comically huge, theres not even a face. But there are boobs, and some people just cannot handle that I guess.

You guys are silly.

Its almost as if some of you don't realize that you can't have a bust of a female character without it having breasts...because...you know...girls have breasts. And a bikini is a real thing.

I'd like it more if it had a head.

 

[Fudgepuppy]

To me, it's as sexist as something made by HR Giger.

I would actually like to have that bust, in the same way I'd like to have a big mural by HR Giger in my room.

A bust of just silicone tits is pretty offensive, a bust of just marble natural tits is pretty sophisticated, so much like everything else by HR Giger, this version is sort of between what's gross/sexist/offensive and grotesque/intriguing.

 

[Jarsonot]

Exactly. It's all cheesy "collectibles", they look bad in anything but a "gaming"/dude room (something with a big screen tv and a bar usually).

Yeah, I have a friend who collects horror action figures. It's weird to me, but hey, enough people like them that they're actually being manufactured. I'm sure he'd like this bust, but (I think) he'd like it for the horror motif, and not for the breasts. He can easily view breasts many other places, and uncovered too.

This looks like it's marketing to people who buy zombie video games. I don't know, as I haven't done any research into this, but I'll bet a large target market is young males. Young males who like zombie games. Horror bust. It doesn't seem like an odd CE choice to me, it seems like a great idea for the target market.

 

[Nokagi]

The more I think about it the more I'm starting to feel they never intended to make this statue at all. The whole thing was probably nothing but a stunt to get attention and it seemed to work.

 

[Pikma]

Context is a fickle thing. This is a studio that already had a sexism shitstorm brew around them. Along with the cheeky "WARNING CONTAINS CONTENT THAT MAY CAUSE OFFENSE" sticker it sort of feels like they're having a go.

Either way, it's a doofy CE. I'd buy the joking angle if the game wasn't so self serious and they didn't already have a history of stupid stuff like this.

This proves one thing: This is exactly what they wanted, they wanted to get the ball rolling, they wanted to raise awareness about their game... and it worked.

 

[params7]

What are you talking about? Men have *not* been sexualized to nearly the same extent that women have in media. That's the whole issue with the bust. The ideal physique of both men and women in modern media are dictated by mens' tastes. Yes, to the extent there is sex in media, a man is a participant, but the focus is almost always on the woman--it is she that is being reduced to a sex object.

You don't mean straight men in there right? You are making no logical sense, whatsoever.


http://foxhoundstudio.com/blog/fitn...sique-—-what-girls-want-want-guys-want-to-be/

http://www.spystars.com/music/beyon...has-best-celebrity-body-voted-by-women/1.html

^All women voters. There's infinite magazines/surveys where that came from, you need to know that.

You also need to understand something. Men want to know what women find most attractive and try to appeal to that, Women want to know what men find attractive and try to appeal to that. We are, afterall, sexual beings, right? There is nothing wrong with this. Lets get this straight.

In hollywood/comics/VIDEOGAMES/books and pretty much all pop culture - I've detected no hidden agenda being perpetrated by men against women. I've seen examples where female characters have been great heroes, broken their usual stereotypes and I've seen games where males have done the same.

If you think women are objectified because Porn exists of which men are major consumers, then Men are also objectified in raunchy erotic novels of which women are major consumers in which men are stereotyped. Men have been stereotyped in most if not all examples of media which considers female as their major demographics. And there's nothing wrong with that.

This is no hidden, one sided agenda here. If you feel you want to fight for something greater than yourself in your life, go join the army/navy etc. There is no war in here. Just needless drama.

And since you asked so nicely for the journal text of an actual study showing how consumption of media shapes mens' views towards women, here you go: http://www.behavior.net/JOB/v1n4/emmers-sommer.html

If you don't want to read it all: "What can be concluded from the results of this study is that consumption of coercive pornography relates to the strongest acceptance of rape myths."

Heh, you left the best part out :

Theoretically, results of this study offer more support for an aggression model perspective than for a social learning or a feminist perspective reflected in a relationship between rape myth acceptance and consumption of coercive pornography online. From a social learning perspective, hardcore porn would have yielded an effect, and it did not.

I haven't taken the time to read through all of it yet, but basically, all this is suggesting that people who view porn in which a rape scene has been enacted - are more likely to accept rape myth. Otherwise, all kinds of other pornographic material do not have any effect.

You're going to have to bring in better studies than this to prove your point, and hopefully which dont try to assert an overreaching claim by studying a tiny niche in a niche of people. Actually that study claims at the very end, a lot of research is still needed to prove behavior change towards the female gender by consuming entertainment media. But keep looking I'm sure you'll find something good.

Aren't you making my point for me? The selling point is the sexualization of an otherwise brualized torso with perfect breasts.

So a cut or two and some blood on the boobs would have fixed this for you?

 

[ArjanN]

The most tiresome posts in this thread are from people who go

"You're not REALLY offended, because I'm not!"

"I bet if you show this to any woman, they think it's silly but not offensive!"

"This thread annoys me because you people are just FAKING your outrage"

"It must be so tiresome getting annoyed about everything, this sure doesn't annoy me!

and variations thereof.

But your post is also a variation on the same theme really.

 

[Kinyou]

The more I think about it the more I'm starting to feel they never intended to make this statue at all. The whole thing was probably nothing but a stunt to get attention and it seemed to work.

I'm always hesitant to believe that marketing companies are really that clever.

 

[Incendiary]

Well I'm disgusted by this. This is the least tempting special edition ever.

 

[SmithnCo]

Yikes, that is gaudy as shit. I don't think it's a big deal besides being the ugliest thing ever made though.

 

[Threi]

This is no hidden, one sided agenda here. If you feel you want to fight for something greater than yourself in your life, go join the army/navy etc. There is no war in here. Just needless drama.

Agreed. Or actively participate in efforts to stop mistreatment of women (or other various social issues). Anything beyond trying to push moral superiority on people you dont even know over the internet.

 

[A.E Suggs]

First post nailed it. That's truly awful.

Who would buy such a thing?

A good chunk of the MK fanbase I'd assume.

 

[Splint]

Its not even that bad. You guys are all 50 years old or something?

 

[lockload]

Maybe this is a sting operation by the FBI as whoever buys this should probably be put on a watchlist

 

[trineo_feo]

I fail to feel the outrage. Is a women's body in a bikini...so?

 

[NullPointer]

Its not even that bad. You guys are all 50 years old or something?

Threads like this make me feel older every day ;P

Shit is disgusting, putting the focus on tits on a mutilated and decapitated stump of a chest as some kind of art piece. Different strokes and all that, but this thing is disturbing. That said, bashing the skulls of bikini clad zombies until there's only a half-jaw and blood geyser in-game is worse. (I own the game, and enjoyed my time with it BTW)

I get that people are offended, and I get that people are into gore and don't know what the big deal is. What I don't get is that people are upset that others are offended.

 

[Nokagi]

I'm always hesitant to believe that marketing companies are really that clever.

As am I but something about the "warning contents may cause offense" give me pause. It's almost as if they knew it would cause offense. =p

And yet when people do in fact take offense they quickly cave in and apologize. Seems strange to me.

 

[endless dave]

The most tiresome posts in this thread are from people who go

"You're not REALLY offended, because I'm not!"

"I bet if you show this to any woman, they think it's silly but not offensive!"

"This thread annoys me because you people are just FAKING your outrage"

"It must be so tiresome getting annoyed about everything, this sure doesn't annoy me!

and variations thereof.

even more frustrating are the scores and scores of people who's sole contribution to the tread, especially this far into it, is

"god, you people are offended by boobs? what's wrong with boobs? there's blood too! do you not care about the blood?"

yes, trolls, it's the mere fact that there are breasts on this statue that offends us so greatly. you've figured it out. well done.

 

[IrrelevantNotch]

even more frustrating are the scores and scores of people who's sole contribution to the tread, especially this far into it, is

"god, you people are offended by boobs? what's wrong with boobs? there's blood too! do you not care about the blood?"

yes, trolls, it's the mere fact that there are breasts on this statue that offends us so greatly. you've figured it out. well done.

Ha, that's the exact same reaction I get whenever I announce my disgust at a simulation game that involves molesting 15 year old anime girls.

 

[Resilient]

Its not even that bad. You guys are all 50 years old or something?

So what if we are?? Does that change anything?

 

[trineo_feo]

Threads like this make me feel older every day ;P

Shit is disgusting, putting the focus on tits on a mutilated and decapitated stump of a chest as some kind of art piece. Different strokes and all that, but this thing is disturbing. That said, bashing the skulls of bikini clad zombies until there's only a half-jaw and blood geyser in-game is worse. (I own the game, and enjoyed my time with it BTW)

I get that people are offended, and I get that people are into gore and don't know what the big deal is. What I don't get is that people are upset that others are offended.

What is that you find offensive? I mean...you don't like it, don't buy it. It is not a insult and it does not pretend to be art. Thay also sell awful gorey merchandising from....I don't know, Alien. What is the difference here, that the mutilated body is a woman?? The cover art for Left 4 Dead is a mutilated hand....it's gross too, what is the difference?

And yes, the horror genre IS sexist. Shocking news!

 

[params7]

http://i.imgur.com/WYWQY.png

I like how the guy kept trying. ShopTo's PR = 5 stars.

 

[Mudkips]

It's ugly and tacky and guaranteed to not be worth the price they're asking for the collectors edition.

But it's not any more offensive than the game itself. It's not objectifying women any more than a mannequin at the mall. It wouldn't be any less offensive/objectifying if it were a male torso.

 

[stop that]

A good chunk of the MK fanbase I'd assume.

You need to go back to stereotyping 101 class. I feel sorry for you for the people you've come across to have made you think that Mortal Kombat fans would jump all over this.

 

[Lambtron]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised this fucking picture made its appearance in this thread.

This statue is disgusting and seriously unnecessary.

 

[Incendiary]

What is that you find offensive? I mean...you don't like it, don't buy it. It is not a insult and it does not pretend to be art. Thay also sell awful gorey merchandising from....I don't know, Alien. What is the difference here, that the mutilated body is a woman?? The cover art for Left 4 Dead is a mutilated hand....it's gross too, what is the difference?

It's not offensive so much as....tacky? I mean, it's a statuette, it's designed to be put out and shown off. But only certain people would want guests in their home to see a bloody torso statuette as a centerpiece on their shelf. And it's not even the gender of the torso that's bothersome. I'd be just as disgusted and not willing to purchase a bloody male torso.

 

[Hagi]

Well that sure beats most of the other shitty collectors editions i've seen recently. Boobs are obviously modelled on implants though so 2/10 would not motorboat.

 

[Diablohead]

I know of no one who would sit that anywhere in their house, I know the game is gory and all but it's such a bad idea to have a figure like that included... why?

 

[NullPointer]

What is that you find offensive? I mean...you don't like it, don't buy it.

I won't, but nor am I seeking to keep it from sale.

I just think the combination of "wooh tits" and "wooh, headless mutilation gore" in one weird trophy-like object is sickening. It's infected and torn meat, but hey, its got boobs! But that's just me.

 

[victimroyalty]

eh, i understand why people are sensitive to this, but i don't think it should be pulled. if you don't like it, just don't buy it. i mean surely they didn't mean anything by it. it fits the game's atmosphere, but they could have come up with something else besides a bikini bust with gashes everywhere. it'll probably be pulled though. not that it really bothers me because i would not ever consider buying a special edition of a dead island game after the initial title. was not worth sixty bucks.

 

[MidnightCowboy]

I hope it doesn't say a lot about me or my views of women that the first thing I thought was not outrage but just why? I mean, it's a terrible collector's item, but I don't think it's terrible because there are a pair of breasts on it.

 

[Jenga]

as a man im offended for women everywhere


i demand it be changed to a man's torso

 

[EricDiesel]

even more frustrating are the scores and scores of people who's sole contribution to the tread, especially this far into it, is

"god, you people are offended by boobs? what's wrong with boobs? there's blood too! do you not care about the blood?"

yes, trolls, it's the mere fact that there are breasts on this statue that offends us so greatly. you've figured it out. well done.

Have you ever been to the beach? Ugh. All the women showing their breasts. It's repulsive. I cannot believe the female form is so shameless in the way that it exists. I'm outraged.

But this? What's the big deal? White knight feminazi overly sensitive sissies. Sheesh. You act like you've never seen a bloody torso with perfectly intact boobs before... And in convenient trophy form! Nothing unsettling here.

I'm sure this is exactly what Stephen Fry had in mind when he said that. Good point. You certainly won this debate.

 

[stop that]

Ledsen, endless dave, IrrelevantNotch, if you inverse what you guys are saying, then the inverse statement would speak for a lot of people as well. You guys are seriously coming off with a "holier-than-thou", "better-than-you", "above-you" mentality.

I cant stand the comments of people on here offended by this, or complaining about it, but that does not make me betetr than them. I "HATE" the comments of people complaining about this, BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME BETTER THAN THEM.

But you guys are coming off like not only is the subject disgusting, but "anyone who thinks otherwise should be cast out of our superior hive mindset society". That is fucking scary, but that mentality is pervasaive on the internet in dealing with subjects that people try to forcibly shove into your lifestyle and way of thinking.

I am for fuck's sake guys they had Jeremy O'connell's or O'donnel's sever dick from the movie Piranhha 3D, the remake. Whether it was CGI or not, there arguably was a prop for that. There were also tons of female bodies and male bodies dismembered, and most of those were authentic props that were not CGI. Someone from the prop department has those in their collection, or in a warehouse somewhere. No one ever said this this dead island collection was for everyone. Those of you offended acted like this was posted on Nintendo's/Amazon's/Apple's/CNN's homepage for sale for a holiday sale or some shit.

 

[Uzny]

I hope it doesn't say a lot about me or my views of women that the first thing I thought was not outrage but just why? I mean, it's a terrible collector's item, but I don't think it's terrible because there are a pair of breasts on it.

Could not have said it better, the piece itself does not bother me, it's just cheesy and bad.

btw. I like your avatar.

 

[Jenga]

would anyone have a problem with changing it to a replica of fabio's torso

 

[Hulud]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised this fucking picture made its appearance in this thread.

This statue is disgusting and seriously unnecessary.

Most collector's items are unnecessary. And you're totally free to not buy them. I wouldn't buy this thing because it's tacky.

 

[Wickerbasket]

Have you ever been to the beach? Ugh. All the women showing their breasts. It's repulsive. I cannot believe the female form is so shameless in the way that it exists. I'm outraged.

But this? What's the big deal? White knight feminazi overly sensitive sissies. Sheesh. You act like you've never seen a bloody torso with perfectly intact boobs before... And in convenient trophy form! Nothing unsettling here.

Honestly, I wouldn't want to display a dismembered male torso in my living room either, but each to their own.

Would be funny to bag it and keep it in my freezer though. Might give my next guest a scare.

 

[oconnomiyaki]

This wouldn't be a problem if it was a man's torso, right?

So gore = fine; breasts = bad?

Yeah, I know there's a lot of objectification of women in the media, but I find this distasteful because it's gross, not because it's got a pair of fake looking tits in a Union Jack bikini.

 

[Nokagi]

would anyone have a problem with changing it to a replica of fabio's torso

You assume Fabio could be torn apart like that. You assumed wrong.

 

[Black Door]

You act like you've never seen a bloody torso with perfectly intact boobs before... And in convenient trophy form! Nothing unsettling here.

A hunk of plastic sitting on a figure shelf means you fantasize about killing women. Okie dokie. Guess Stanley Kubrick was actually a deviant sexual predator too since he had a fake head of a dead girl from Full Metal Jacket sitting in his house for years

 

[Cartman86]

Have you ever been to the beach? Ugh. All the women showing their breasts. It's repulsive. I cannot believe the female form is so shameless in the way that it exists. I'm outraged.

But this? What's the big deal? White knight feminazi overly sensitive sissies. Sheesh. You act like you've never seen a bloody torso with perfectly intact boobs before... And in convenient trophy form! Nothing unsettling here.


I'm sure this is exactly what Stephen Fry had in mind when he said that. Good point. You certainly won this debate.

I know right? Fucking people.

 

[Conciliator]

would anyone have a problem with changing it to a replica of fabio's torso

Sure, the primary demo wouldn't buy it because they don't want a sexy male torso on their shelf.

Anyway, that was short lived. What an awful idea.

 

[stop that]

People are blatantly sexist because they're screaming out that it's wrong be"CAUSE" a female body is featured. A "female" body offends you?

This wouldn't make it past the official twitter company post or several gaming news outlet articles/posts if it weren't for a fucking female being on it.

I'm no white male but I truly believe that they are the only ones, straight white males in particular, to allowed to be shown in any negative way.

I was thinking of an example earlier, based on this outrage, that if a bunch of zombies were to attack a United Nations council meeting, which was the first and most easy example of an ethnically diverse group of people I could think of, they would ignore all the non-white straight males and attack all the straight white males only.

If you show, in any trailer, in any comic, in any story or any medium, people other than straight while males getting attacked, then you're some kind of "ist".

As a non-white male it pisses me off to get lumped into this category where I have to be coddled and all of these "people" have to speak up for me and say what is or isn't offensive to me.

Please don't fuckin' stereotype me or other people and let THEM speak up for themselves, individually.