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Dead Rising 4: Frank's Big Package coming to PS4.
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70 isn't 'bad' per se, but it's bad considering the sort of scores 'good' games tend to get as a result of review score inflation (let's say, 80 or 85+).
Like, when a game is in the 50s or 60s, I can only assume it has some dire technical problem that makes it very dysfunctional, or is just otherwise some variation of hot mess. Getting a 70 means it's either very boring for what it is, is half-decent but runs like trash, or some other combination of 'kind-of okay' and 'god-awful'.
SirNinja
Member
There's not going to be a Dead Rising 5 any time soon if ever. Anyway, IIRC Blue Capcom are fucking up Ghosts 'n' Goblins next.
3 is not bad, it ditches the schlock of the first 2 in favour of a more Carpenterish theme, and it mostly works. 4 is a mess though.
Zombie James
Banned
zerokoolpsx
Member
Yeah, gonna avoid this.
PhantomThief
Banned
Wow. Even worse than I thought!
CampbellzSoup
Member
Didn't frank have almost no bulge in his dead rising underwear skin??? I'm calling shenanigans here!
TheDangerMan
Member
Would way rather have had DR3, I at least have some friends who don't have PC that I would have bought it again to play co-op story mode with. DR4 on the other hand is a hard pass.
Shanaynay
Member
From personal experience with the serie, feeling rushed due to the timer is the last thing you need to worry about and it isn't because "i know the ins and out" but at times you will be stuck with waiting 7-10+ in-game hours until the next major objectives, thats even if you do everything that needs to be done at the time.
About DR4 i didn't really look at any of the videos surrounding it but i've been wanting to play a new DR game for a while, if it end up being mediocre well...at least i can expect some fun time with my wife in coop regardless at least.
PhantomThief
Banned
Dr4 doesnt have coop tho.
Lord of Castamere
Member
Already waited a year, don't see a good reason to buy it at full price.
oh you poor thing
No coop campaign dude.
Crab Milk Mickey
Member
Especially between the re-releases, DR1 still has the edge over 2 concerning technical downtime be it on consoles or PC. In fact: loading times on PC even without a SSD typically last no more than a second or two on many a modest rig, so the transition complaint is rendered moot when at this point in time it can be brute-forced much more easily than 2's poorly optimized engine. The quantity difference for transitions between both games is also negligible. Having to wait for the conversation to continue (which wasn't even that slow) isn't much more than a tiny nuisance including during fresh-save Saint runs, barring less than a handful of instances where it's amped up for comedic purpose like two specific elderly people in both games. There's no debate about whether the controls are inferior in 2 when a) there's factually more input delay on top of generally lengthier animations and b) a number of special moves are less consistent to pull off due to the aforementioned, previously non-existent button overlap.
I didn't bring up A.I. because that matter speaks to itself. The survivors aren't really smarter however, just vastly overpowered.
It really doesn't work when the game regularly goes back and forth on what tone (in extremes) the writers wanted it to hit. The story as well as the characters came off as heavily bipolar as a result, and that's ignoring the barrage of negative quips about player actions like dressing up funny or the ones various NPC's (including friendlies) hurl towards Nick sucking out what little fun remained in the script.
Shanaynay
Member
Well fuck
>_> while i don't mind running solo in those games the coop experience also made it fun. I'll hop on the "wait for sale" train then.
Shifty
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SSSavage
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...Goodacre0081
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now that this IP is apparently on its last legs, does anyone think MS might make an offer to buy it from Capcom? its has Xbox brand recognition and they could probably make a lowball bid for it.
Vaughngief
Member
They're determined to have this sell at least 1 million. Bombed on XB1 and PC. It'll bomb here. It's still a bad game.
Why would they? As you said the IP is on its last legs; plus who would MS actually have to make a new game under this IP?
This isn't a Gears situation.
I could be wrong, but I just don't see that happening.
I'm gonna guess (like a certain notable western RPG franchise with a bad 4th entry) Capcom will put it on the shelf and let the stink fade away for a few years instead of selling it off.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Didn't Phil Spencer say something that he doesn't like stuff like that for exclusive
The person you are replying to is hypothesizing MS buys the IP outright. To my knowledge, Spencer has never addressed "not liking that"
His statement was more along the lines he doesn't like marketing deals that leads to exclusive content.
which of course was in reference to a deal Sony had
AgentLampshade
Member
These interviews are something else.
False advertising, no buy here.
Neuromancer
Member
Oh man, I'm jonesing for a new zombie game so badly. But I don't think this one is it.
"not *THAT* bad" is such a compelling arguement for me to invest time and money into this game. Great stuff.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Dead Rising 4: What a huge cock-up.
Why would MS even be interested in a dying IP when can just make a new & better IP with zombies instead?
At least with Cacpom, there's some value in keeping Frank West as a another Capcom staple character for their VS, Puzzle, or App games. Not really much incentive or value for MS to buy it.
"dead rising 4: it's better than mighty no 9 which was better than nothing"
and even then i still have to ponder if it is better than MN9 indeed
dugdug
Banned
I'm not saying you should buy it, though?
Son Of Sparda
Member
Hahahaha.... Nope.
Goodacre0081
Member
MS is desperate for IP at this moment and if Capcom does want to shelve the franchise it might be an option. also, isn't Capcom kinda in the shits right now? an influx of cash might help them out a bit.
as for the developer MS could just do what it always does and farm out to a third party.
as we've seen for years MS isn't really the creative type. if first party developers can't have the type of freedom to experiment with "new & better IP" then this is the other option and they have done it before with buying Gears, Halo and Minecraft.
you make a good second point which is what really matters i guess. does Capcom see a future where DR is a vital franchise in its library.
Circle Jerk
Member
yea this thread is filled with people excited to play dead rising 4
Sailent
Banned
You mean the bad acting, annoying timer following Frank West from Teadious Rising 1?