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[BreezyLimbo]

Raiden would definitely win. He doesn't have an anti-metal sword, it's a high-frequency blade that's basically vibrating incredibly fast in order to weaken the molecular structure of metal. I geuss they took the parallel of the chick they brought up near the end, since she used the same basic properties as Raidens HF blade in her bionic arm.

Wolverine takes the L.

 

[The Silver]

Jacks got cool skills, but he has a boring personality

only MGS4 Raiden was bad.

MGR Raiden is the perfect amount of batshit craziness.

 

[Chamber]

Yeah, Raiden whoops his ass pretty badly. Even the OP versions of Wolverine that heal from a skeleton or whatever would just result in Raiden whooping Logan's ass until he got bored.

 

[Soriku]

Could Wolverine beat Armstrong?

 

[cyborg009]

They should had this moment.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Could Wolverine beat Armstrong?

Hmm......only if he gets him in his weak spot? And Raiden did something completely ridiculous IIRC(Like Launching his sword at super fast speed to hit his weak spot).

 

[The Silver]

They should had this moment.

Are you telling me Wolverine has Paras--nanomachines?

 

[SixMachine]

Could Wolverine beat Armstrong?

I would think Armstrong wins, he pretty much out stats him and a few punches would probably knock him out. He also technically doesn't need to be in close range with all those erupting volcano punches and the fact he can chuck tanks and metal gear parts. I wonder if Wolverine can die by becoming braindead from being punched a lot, since killing the brain via drowning works, I wonder if excessive amounts of blunt trauma would do it.

I also wonder if Wolverine has the arm strength to cut through Armstrong's skin. I know Adamantium can most likely cut it, but even with a sharp object you still need the appropriate force to make it through, and the only ones who had a shot of doing that are people like Raiden and Sam who are extremely strong.

 

[Parallax]

Raiden would definitely win. He doesn't have an anti-metal sword, it's a high-frequency blade that's basically vibrating incredibly fast in order to weaken the molecular structure of metal. I geuss they took the parallel of the chick they brought up near the end, since she used the same basic properties as Raidens HF blade in her bionic arm.

Wolverine takes the L.

Adamantium isnt some standard metal though. When it hardens, its done. Its going to take quite a bit of attacking if that to get the job done. And theres no accounting of wolverines skills either. Despite being seen as a savage, he has quite a bit of training. especially for those stronger than him

 

[zeemumu]

I didn't think they'd give Raiden Sam's sword.

They should had this moment.

Adamantium, son. It hardens in response to physical trauma. YOU CAN'T HURT ME, BUB!

 

[foxuzamaki]

Adamantium isnt some standard metal though. When it hardens, its done. Its going to take quite a bit of attacking if that to get the job done. And theres no accounting of wolverines skills either. Despite being seen as a savage, he has quite a bit of training. especially for those stronger than him

Not mention like 3 or 4 wars worth of experience.

 

[Finaika]

How about Wolverine vs Solid Snake/Big Boss?

Fairer fight?

 

[Mxrz]

Unless you add PIS, its a shiny cyborg guy vs an unbreakable regenerating blender with above human physical abilities, senses, and a few lifetimes of experience.

 

[zeemumu]

Could Wolverine beat Armstrong?

Armstrong really isn't that tough in terms of his combat style. His nanomachines do all of the work. If Wolverine can put enough force into his hits he could wear Armstrong down. Sam had enough force to hold his own but not enough to seriously injure Armstrong. The gun slash that cut off the arm was done when the nanomachines weren't protecting it. Raiden could, but he's far stronger than both Sam and Wolverine combined. He had enough force behind his hits to Zandatsu using Metal Gear EXCELSUS' sword. The fake-out that he pulled with Sam won't work with Wolverine because he would regenerate the damage done to his arm.

How about Wolverine vs Solid Snake/Big Boss?

Fairer fight?

Can Snake infect him with FoxDie?

 

[flaxknuckles]

Raiden>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stupid ass Wolvie who is always getting his healing factor removed, stunted, or countered by a weapon/ability in his comics because healing factors that work that fast are OP.

I hope to never see another Vs. video wasted on Wolverine or Deadpool (Still hate Screwattack for that DP vs Deathstroke verdict).

 

[cj_iwakura]

Raiden has Wolf, but Wolvie has Jubilee.

Tough call.

 

[KHlover]

I didn't think they'd give Raiden Sam's sword.



Adamantium, son. It hardens in response to physical trauma. YOU CAN'T HURT ME, BUB!

Well the fight needed to be somewhat interesting. Gray Fox HF Blade would have ended it too quicky

 

[Ninhead]

Ugh. I can't wait for the inevitable rap-battle.

 

[Calabi]

Raiden doesnt even need to cut through Wolverines skeleton just the ligaments. A thin layer of a really strong metal doesnt make something indestructible, and how does he make new blood if his bones are sealed.

Wolverine is magic, Raiden is too but he's slightly more plausible, a machine would be faster and stronger.

 

[King Gilga]

MGR Raiden completely and utterly destroys wolverine in any sort of combat, it's not even remotely comparable.

That healing factor tho.

That healing factor.

I don't think it'd be much of a battle, just a never ending blend fest with raiden doing all the blending.

Haven't watched it yet though.

 

[Slayven]

Raiden doesnt even need to cut through Wolverines skeleton just the ligaments. A thin layer of a really strong metal doesnt make something indestructible, and how does he make new blood if his bones are sealed.

Wolverine is magic, Raiden is too but he's slightly more plausible, a machine would be faster and stronger.

Healing factor is a wonderiful thing, when his mutant power is shut down he has to take all kinds of medicine just not to die from having 250 pounds of metal in his body.

Funny thing is Wolverine's healing factor is kind of shitty compared to other characters. There is a team called the Unkillables, every member has a healing factor that shits on Wolverine.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

It's a shame that Wolverine is such a jobber.

 

[Calabi]

Healing factor is a wonderiful thing, when his mutant power is shut down he has to take all kinds of medicine just not to die from having 250 pounds of metal in his body.

Funny thing is Wolverine's healing factor is kind of shitty compared to other characters. There is a team called the Unkillables, every member has a healing factor that shits on Wolverine.

That's another problem, a metal that heavy isnt that great. I mean you want a metal that is light but strong for engineering purposes. They stuff a super heavy metal in him, they might as well have just used lead.

 

[Slayven]

That's another problem, a metal that heavy isnt that great. I mean you want a metal that is light but strong for engineering purposes. They stuff a super heavy metal in him, they might as well have just used lead.

Wolverine is super strong, not hulk levels but he is no weakling.

 

[Psyrgery ES]

Haven't watched the video, but I want the character who's as tall as me to win.

Go Wolvie!

The Punisher blew up his entire body (below head) and he didnt die. Heh, The Punisher knew it would only slow him down

 

[Kusagari]

Raiden is ridiculously faster than Wolverine for one thing.

Wolvie could survive for who knows how long but it'd mostly be Raiden just dicing his ass while screaming "WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!"

 

[Manmademan]

Bullshit,

yeah, I'm inclined to agree. Adamantium doesn't work like that.

 

[Face it Tiger..]

Yeah no, the HF Blade isn't made of Arctic Vibranium.

It's just vibrating steel.

 

[Slayven]

yeah, I'm inclined to agree. Adamantium doesn't work like that.

Hank Pym wielding a half ton of antarctic viburnum just weaken Adamantium Ultron, while it vaporized all surrounding metal

 

[Manmademan]

Wolverine is super strong, not hulk levels but he is no weakling.

Similarly he also has enhanced speed, though exactly HOW fast is indeterminate. Basically "as fast as the plot requires" really.

 

[Slayven]

Similarly he also has enhanced speed, though exactly HOW fast is indeterminate. Basically "as fast as the plot requires" really.

He in that fast as comicbook martial artist zone. Dodging bullets and what not, still blow Spiderman but then again anyone above Spiderman is a legit speedster

 

[zeemumu]

Well the fight needed to be somewhat interesting. Gray Fox HF Blade would have ended it too quicky

I was expecting his default sword.

 

[Manmademan]

He in that fast as comicbook martial artist zone. Dodging bullets and what not, still blow Spiderman but then again anyone above Spiderman is a legit speedster

I'd say he's probably as fast as spidey is on a good day, though an enraged/pissed off/no fucks given spidey is probably past him.

Wolverine keeps up with Gambit pretty well (they've fought several times, mostly to a draw) and that guy definitively has "enhanced speed and reflexes" as part of his mutation.

 

[Slayven]

I'd say he's probably as fast as spidey is on a good day, though an enraged/pissed off/no fucks given spidey is probably past him.

Wolverine keeps up with Gambit pretty well (they've fought several times, mostly to a draw) and that guy definitively has "enhanced speed and reflexes" as part of his mutation.

Daredevil schooled Gambit on the reg, and Cap walked a mudhole dry on Gambit. So Gambit isn't the best measuring stick. Remember when they said Gambit control of kinteic energy enhanced his agility and speed? Forgotten like his charm power

 

[Manmademan]

Daredevil schooled Gambit on the reg, and Cap walked a mudhole dry on Gambit. So Gambit isn't the best measuring stick. Remember when they said Gambit control of kinteic energy enhanced his agility and speed? Forgotten like his charm power

No real shame in losing to Daredevil or Cap- Gambit is fast but the skill level of those two is so far past him that he has no business fighting either one. Cap's reflexes are also enhanced/superhuman due to the SSS anyway, and there are dozens of scans proving this one in the prior cap threads.

Re: the bolded- that's what I was thinking of. I don't think it's been "forgotten" so much as taken for granted that he has superhuman agility. superhuman but again not on the level of an actual speedster. He does have some interesting speed/agility feats consistently across his career.

this is pretty recent- Gambit is too fast for Iron Man's targeting computer.

 

[Slayven]

No real shame in losing to Daredevil or Cap- Gambit is fast but the skill level of those two is so far past him that he has no business fighting either one. Cap's reflexes are also enhanced/superhuman due to the SSS anyway, and there are dozens of scans proving this one in the prior cap threads.

Re: the bolded- that's what I was thinking of. I don't think it's been "forgotten" so much as taken for granted that he has superhuman agility. superhuman but again not on the level of an actual speedster. He does have some interesting speed/agility feats consistently across his career.

Too be fair Iron Man wasn't actually in that suit or am I thinking of another battle?

Shame that Shang Chi gets slept on, dude has some badass feats. Him and the OG White Tiger.

 

[Manmademan]

Too be fair Iron Man wasn't actually in that suit or am I thinking of another battle?

Shame that Shang Chi gets slept on, dude has some badass feats. Him and the OG White Tiger.

not sure. I was actually looking for a different scan, came across that instead, and figured "eh, good enough"

 

[Slayven]

not sure. I was actually looking for a different scan, came across that instead, and figured "eh, good enough"

Yep

 

[Professor Renegade]

I thought Wolverine would have won for sure with his healing factor and skeleton, but I'm glad they gave a good explanation for who the HF Blade could cut adamantium.

 

[shoreu]

Bullshit,

Yeah how the fuck does Raiden kill him. Wolverine has fought people who would kill Raiden in an instant.

 

[Skinpop]

Wolverine is super strong, not hulk levels but he is no weakling.

why is it that with almost every western superhero it's not enough that they have some special ability - they also have to be super durable and super strong? And all of it is super loosely defined so writers can always write them out of any kind of trouble.

Take spiderman, he would be so much more interesting if his only ability was the climbing thing. you'd feel there was some danger and that stakes were high because he is as fragile as a normal dude and overcoming that by wit or tactics could actually allow for some intellectually stimulating reading from time to time.
It's the main reason I can't stand super hero movies, because despite being action movies there's never any tension in them.

 

[Dragon1893]

OK, that made sense, they actually found a similar weapon capable of destroying adamantium in marvel's lore.

I didn't know that there's a comic where Wolverine is reduced to just his skeleton and survives lol, that's so stupid.

 

[Manmademan]

why is it that with almost every western superhero it's not enough that they have some special ability - they also have to be super durable and super strong? And all of it is super loosely defined so writers can always write them out of any kind of trouble.

Don't blame "Western Comics" because you aren't familiar with the source material. Wolverine walks around with 250 pounds of metal grafted onto his skeleton. It's been a given since inception. Don't like implausibly strong heroes? don't read superhero comics. Pick up danger girl or something.

Take spiderman, he would be so much more interesting if his only ability was the climbing thing. you'd feel there was some danger and that stakes were high because he is as fragile as a normal dude and overcoming that by wit or tactics could actually allow for some intellectually stimulating reading from time to time.
It's the main reason I can't stand super hero movies, because despite being action movies there is no tension at all.

now THIS is just idiocy.

OK, that made sense, they actually found a similar weapon capable of destroying adamantium in marvel's lore.

I didn't know that there's a comic where Wolverine is reduced to just his skeleton and survives lol, that's so stupid.

as others have mentioned they really didn't. Antarctic vibranium is a very different thing than steel that happens to vibrate quickly. just being near it liquifies regular metal- that blade isn't in the same category- and even if it was raiden doesn't have enough of it.

 

[Slayven]

why is it that with almost every western superhero it's not enough that they have some special ability - they also have to be super durable and super strong? And all of it is super loosely defined so writers can always write them out of any kind of trouble.

Take spiderman, he would be so much more interesting if his only ability was the climbing thing. you'd feel there was some danger and that stakes were high because he is as fragile as a normal dude and overcoming that by wit or tactics could actually allow for some intellectually stimulating reading from time to time.
It's the main reason I can't stand super hero movies, because despite being action movies there's never any tension in them.

That is how I know you never read a Spiderman comic.

OK, that made sense, they actually found a similar weapon capable of destroying adamantium in marvel's lore.

I didn't know that there's a comic where Wolverine is reduced to just his skeleton and survives lol, that's so stupid.

What if I tell you there is a story where Wolverine is reduced to a drop of blood and managed to come back?

 

[Manmademan]

That is how I know you never read a Spiderman comic.


What if I tell you there is a story where Wolverine is reduced to a drop of blood and managed to come back?

always someone that rolls in with the 'waaa western comics' bullshit when they've clearly never read one- taking what they saw on saturday morning once and applying it to the entire medium.

 

[Messypandas]

Raiden is stupidly-over powered and Wolverine is stupidly hard to kill

But i'd give it to Raiden in this case.

 

[Skinpop]

Don't blame "Western Comics" because you aren't familiar with the source material. Wolverine walks around with 250 pounds of metal grafted onto his skeleton. It's been a given since inception. Don't like implausibly strong heroes? don't read superhero comics. Pick up danger girl or something.

alright guess that's unfair. i'm mostly aware of the super heroes that's made it to movies and I just feel that every single of them would be more interesting and make for better stories if they didn't always have so much extra stuff(like durability and strength) that ends up draining the tension.

 

[zeemumu]

Raiden is stupidly-over powered and Wolverine is stupidly hard to kill

But i'd give it to Raiden in this case.

And that's not even the Raiden they used. They used his most recent body, which was strong enough to throw Metal Gear EXCELSUS

 

[Slayven]

alright guess that's unfair. i'm mostly aware of the super heroes that's made it to movies and I just feel that every single of them would be more interesting and make for better stories if they didn't always have so much extra stuff(like durability and strength) that ends up draining the tension.

Western comics have plenty of tension, it is called characterization and supporting cast. They develop their worlds beyond a powersystem.

 

[Dragon1893]

as others have mentioned they really didn't. Antarctic vibranium is a very different thing than steel that happens to vibrate quickly. just being near it liquifies regular metal- that blade isn't in the same category- and even if it was raiden doesn't have enough of it.

Oh, OK.
I just watch these out of curiosity, I'm not a comic book person.
I'm sure that you could justify any kind of outcome for most of these fights by digging deep enough since there's so much crap out there and so many different writers with their own takes on it, that there must be a ton of contradictions at this point regarding what characters can or can't do. Weird how some people seem to take this stuff seriously.