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[Zoc]

I'm not one of those who finds it amusing to hate on Dyack and SK, but that's some serious hyperbole in the first bolded part. :lol

The word you wanted to say was "hubris." It took me like half a fucking hour to remember that after "hyperbole" got stuck in my head, and it's all Denis Dyack's fault.

 

[Jinfash]

O_O;

 

[Eric WK]

I was playing when I made this comment after a huge discussion about Cuba:

"What kind of people name themselves after a brand of cigars, anyway?"

Still got banned.

But why? That's hilarious.

 

[drohne]

Given all you've said, how do you want Too Human to be remembered - as a great videogame or for its message?

and which would he rather have as a pet, a unicorn or a chupacabra? the more relevant question is 'do you want too human to be remembered as a bad game or a public relations fiasco'

 

[Truant]

Yeah, and obviously a joke. But you can't please them all.

 

[gofreak]

This guy is so full of his own bullshit and ego, it's just tragic.

But I'm quickly moving past pity to the "lol @ Dyack" phase. Quickly.

 

[Ourobolus]

Man, after reading the quotes, I think I'll have to pick this game up when Criterion releases it 20 years from now.

 

[McBradders]

After hearing Dyack on the Full Moon Show nothing, nothing, will surprise me coming out of that mans mouth.

He's lost touch with... everyone, perhaps.

 

[Eric WK]

Man, after reading the quotes, I think I'll have to pick this game up when Criterion releases it 20 years from now.

But it'll be like three times the price. At least the packaging will be stellar, I guess.

 

[Bearillusion]

You guys just don't get that good animation is actually bad.

 

[Brashnir]

Denis - Nothing you say at this point will make things any better. Just stop, please. For your own sake.

 

[FromTheFuture]

OH DENISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS DYACKKKKKKKK when will you get it

 

[Jinfash]

it has become really hard even for me to take him seriously 0_o

 

[Ventron]

He wants it to be remembered for a message? This is one part where I think quite a few game makers are losing the plot nowadays, they forget that they're making a video game instead of an artistic feat. Sounds like Dyack should have made this a movie.

Everyone has low points so Dyack should just stop making things worse by constantly looking for ridiculous excuses and move on to his next project. Hopefully it'll be managed better and Dyack learns something from this.

 

[Semantic Continuum]

Denis Dyack, still firmly cruising very far away from everyone else

But hey, can't win'em all!

 

[thuway]

I sometimes wish Dennis would quit with all the parables, analogies, and ridiculous attempts at educating everyone he meets. Letting the product speak for itself, whether it is good or bad, intelligent or passe, is the noble thing to do.

 

[Haunted]

But what we're also seeing is for the people who don't like it, generally just don't get it. And it's because we've created something so innovative and different.

lawl

the reason I'm an entertainer is that if I can make positive commentary or contribute to society in a positive way, then that's the ultimate goal.

spoken like a true GAFfer!

 

[TheRagnCajun]

Thats right, when people dont' like what you do, just dismiss them as being too stupid to appreciate its genius. Billy Corgan and Tom Yorke would be proud.

 

[Pureauthor]

...Yeah, pretty much.

 

[gofreak]

Actually, thinking about it more, I think he really does get it.

I think he needs to appeal to some weird sense of superiority in the hopes of convincing MS to continue to bankroll his ego trip. He has to, even in the face of the game's feedback. He no longer really cares about convincing those who 'just don't get it' (i.e. most people by the looks of it). It's about his publisher relationships now and convincing them of some nebulous intangible higher-brow merit. Afterall, MS, if you don't get it, you're stupid and a hater! You're not that, are you?

I wonder if MS will fall for it.

 

[thuway]

Thats right, when people dont' like what you do, just dismiss them as being too stupid to appreciate its genius. Billy Corgan and Tom Yorke would be proud.

That is actually an excellent parallel to Billy Corgan.

 

[Truant]

Noble. You know who's noble?

A knight.

 

[i hate bees]

I was playing when I made this comment after a huge discussion about Cuba:

"What kind of people name themselves after a brand of cigars, anyway?"

Still got banned.

I didn't mean anything sinister, I care very little for Too Human, below average game - move on.

The problem with Dyack is that he seems to consider himself more than an entertainer or story teller (both of while he fails at) and then tries to bash everyone who doesn't grasp his poorly realised concepts. Actions speak louder than words, and all Dyack seems to do is fellate himself in the gaming media while ignoring any criticism of his work, he's exactly the sort of person the industry doesn't need, all mouth no trousers cry babies.

 

[Ventron]

...Yeah, pretty much.

Penny Arcade has something for everything. :lol Now all we need is a suitable XKCD and the thread is complete.

 

[MickeyKnox]

The schadenfreude is delicious.

 

[eso76]

I wonder how Denis's massive ego is holding up now the verdict's in?

just fine, going by that first answer.

 

[Nolan.]

It's so innovative people just can't handle it... wow, if that isn't crazy talk I don't know what is, actually yes I do almost everything Dyack says.

 

[Zenith]

I thought he said "the game will speak for itself"? Now he's trying to silence it because it's telling everyone he's over the hill? Free the game!

 

[Replicant]

But what we're also seeing is for the people who don't like it, generally just don't get it. And it's because we've created something so innovative and different.

I wish there's ROTFL emoticon for a moment like this but this will have to do:

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[thuway]

It's so innovative people just can't handle it... wow, if that isn't crazy talk I don't know what is, actually yes I do almost everything Dyack says.

Its a classical case of denial.

 

[wenis]

that first bolded quote was created for facepalm.gif

I honestly don't understand this man anymore. I was rooting for him, but I just can't anymore.

 

[dejan]

Actually, thinking about it more, I think he really does get it.

I think he needs to appeal to some weird sense of superiority in the hopes of convincing MS to continue to bankroll his ego trip. He has to, even the face of the game's feedback. He no longer really cares about convincing those who 'just don't get it' (i.e. most people by the looks of it). It's about his publisher relationships now and convincing them of some nebulous intangible higher-brow merit. Afterall, MS, if you don't get it, you're stupid and a hater! You're not that, are you?

I wonder if MS will fall for it.

I don't know if this is meant as a joke, but I seriously believe this is actually the case.

 

[FieryBalrog]

Let's put Diablo on 360

All this innovation is tiring me out time to go hit up GAF see what they think

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

As someone who actually enjoyed the demo to some extent, I find this level of hyperbole confusing and a little frightening.
The game is PSO/Marvel UA (I've never played Diablo to compare) with a fresh coat of paint.

I really hope Denis takes the opportunity to take some of the criticisms to heart, especially concerning the animation, number of players, and item management. Even if he swears by the control scheme for the sequels, these superficial things need to be addressed if he wants the game to score with critics.

 

[i hate bees]

Actually, thinking about it more, I think he really does get it.

I think he needs to appeal to some weird sense of superiority in the hopes of convincing MS to continue to bankroll his ego trip. He has to, even the face of the game's feedback. He no longer really cares about convincing those who 'just don't get it' (i.e. most people by the looks of it). It's about his publisher relationships now and convincing them of some nebulous intangible higher-brow merit. Afterall, MS, if you don't get it, you're stupid and a hater! You're not that, are you?

I wonder if MS will fall for it.

It's like the kings new clothes all over again.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

It's ironic, it just shows that human nature of if you don't understand something, you immediately attack it. It's pretty interesting in that regard.

Behold.

A philosopher of philosophers.



All of this from one bad decision. "To can or not to can?" (the game in it early state.) That was the question.

Who knows what games could've been made all this time Dyack sunked keeping this zombie-game going.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

The control scheme isn't the problem with the game. It's... everything else, I guess.

 

[Ricker]

Another "Dyack" thread guys??? really??? c'mon.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

Dyack to the majority of his player base:

"This isn't for you, you just don't understand it!"


(Dyack continues to listen to Emo music and write poems about how he is better than anyone.)

 

[thuway]

Correct me if I'm wrong, and someone verbally impale me if I'm overstepping my lines of criticism, but I just don't see the innovation to warrant those words.

I could understand those words coming from the creators of a title like FLOW, Rez, or MAYBE LBP. Too Human is a Diablo clone at heart with a few twists and spins. I don't see any innovation (not to say it doesn't innovate) that goes beyond the realm of verbal critiquing.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Too Annoying.

 

[Truant]

Innovation and attempted innovation are sooo far apart.

 

[Nolan.]

As someone who actually enjoyed the demo to some extent, I find this level of hyperbole confusing and a little frightening.
The game is PSO/Marvel UA (I've never played Diablo to compare) with a fresh coat of paint.

I really hope Denis takes the opportunity to take some of the criticisms to heart, especially concerning the animation, number of players, and item management. Even if he swears by the control scheme for the sequels, these superficial things need to be addressed if he wants the game to score with critics.

Thats just it. I was rooting for the game to do well because I was convinced he'd understand a lot of the gripes people have with it. Plus the potential it has with correcting the many flaws is just a shame. However if he's taking to attitude of ''My vision is just great and I won't change it'' even through all that, he's even more deluded than I thought. I'm almost utterly bewildered now.

 

[hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka]

I wonder what his colleagues think about him.

 

[outsida]

SK needs a good spokesperson so badly....

 

[bigmakstudios]

I thought he said "the game will speak for itself"? Now he's trying to silence it because it's telling everyone he's over the hill? Free the game!

Someone should make a gif that starts with dyack standing next to the cover of his game, saying, "the game will speak for itself". The cover then tries to say something, and he grabs it. The cover struggles valiantly, but dies of asphyxiation. Then Dyack says, "it was too innovative for its own good" or something.

 

[winnarps]

Another "Dyack" thread guys??? really??? c'mon.

It's like that Britney Spears South Park episode: the criticism won't let up.

 

[bud]

this guy are sick

 

[Sol..]

You konw what this thread needs?

More too human gifs.

 

[MrHicks]

I wonder what his colleagues think about him.

if he wasn't the president i guess most of them would have begged for this guy to get fired