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Destiny 2 Reveal Livestream [Over]
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panama chief
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Is no one else tired of just 3 in the fire team? I was hoping for up to 6. The playspace is too much for just 3.
Twilight Gap
Member
I'm glad they didn't change the game's art style. Bungie are some of the best artists out there and Destiny had a solid foundation there. The armor on the other hand was largely underwhelming in Destiny 1 and it doesn't seem like that's going to change. Hopefully there's more to that than they have shown.
But it's really the lack of new classes, enemies and investment systems that are making it look less like a sequel and more like an expansion. Aside from the upgrade in graphic fidelity, which is hard to quantify at this point, it definitely didn't strike me as a sequel to Destiny, let alone a game released from the shackles of next gen. Maybe Horizon has spoiled me; textured grass and invisible walls aren't going to cut it anymore.
But it's really the lack of new classes, enemies and investment systems that are making it look less like a sequel and more like an expansion. Aside from the upgrade in graphic fidelity, which is hard to quantify at this point, it definitely didn't strike me as a sequel to Destiny, let alone a game released from the shackles of next gen. Maybe Horizon has spoiled me; textured grass and invisible walls aren't going to cut it anymore.
The art style in Halo was more or less consistent up until Halo 4. If there is one thing I can always give Bungie credit for and that is having an excellent and consistent art style with their IPs (not counting the ever changing Brutes of course).
i wanted new classes or at least subclasses and elements. like rock/stone titans or something for example
seeing the same cocktail of sunsinger, gunslinger and defender was really underwhelming. especially when the "oh golden gun is now 6 shots" tweets from people at the event started coming out, i was like"really? wow :/".
i'm holding up hope they are saving some stuff for e3 but like you only make a first impression once so they should've unleashed a few of the big guns here and then elaborate/expand on em at e3
this as well man. i wanted bigger fireteams outside of raids
seeing the same cocktail of sunsinger, gunslinger and defender was really underwhelming. especially when the "oh golden gun is now 6 shots" tweets from people at the event started coming out, i was like"really? wow :/".
i'm holding up hope they are saving some stuff for e3 but like you only make a first impression once so they should've unleashed a few of the big guns here and then elaborate/expand on em at e3
this as well man. i wanted bigger fireteams outside of raids
err..
same enemies
same guns mostly
literally same animations for most stuff like reloading
same supers too?
the hud?
this game looks like an expansion pack. What the hell?
Super disappointing... I hope they have some surprises to show...
I also hope bungie doesnt think they can shit on people like they did on the d1 vanilla release and get away with it again..
same enemies
same guns mostly
literally same animations for most stuff like reloading
same supers too?
the hud?
this game looks like an expansion pack. What the hell?
Super disappointing... I hope they have some surprises to show...
I also hope bungie doesnt think they can shit on people like they did on the d1 vanilla release and get away with it again..
I'm not sure what people were expecting. The Destiny feel, look and formula has been very successful for Bungie and they were obviously not going to stray far from something successful, but instead improve and iterate on things that weren't as successful, like the Story and lack of group options. Those two elements are big things that Destiny 1 failed at and with D2 being the game that fixes the big things, this is what it looks like.
Destiny 2 is a direct continuation of the Destiny world so what could they change so drastically for it feel like a new game to you? That's what I'm wondering.
Destiny 2 is a direct continuation of the Destiny world so what could they change so drastically for it feel like a new game to you? That's what I'm wondering.
Did you think they were going to throw away everything they had and start from scratch?
Twilight Gap
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Bungie is really bad at marketing Destiny. I pretty much hated everything they showed for the first game from 2013-2014 and then the beta changed my mind.
Uncharted 1 and 2 has humans as enemies
They have the same guns
Probably even the same reload animations
It even has the BALLS to use the same characters
Uncharted 2 not a real game but an expansion confirmed.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Dunno, I've played destiny for 500hrs+ and the tower looks way better then it does now. It's like they took the same area and did a next gen over haul on it.
I'm more interested in the open world parts right now, that's what destiny was lacking to me. I wanna see bigger areas with more stuff to do.
I'm more interested in the open world parts right now, that's what destiny was lacking to me. I wanna see bigger areas with more stuff to do.
I really don't understand, either.
Twilight Gap
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Read some of the responses. If they had added new enemies, new classes, new AI behaviors, a bunch of new guns, new vehicles, and much more to the PvE space, that's something they should put front and center. What they chose to focus on instead are things that fit the scale of a content update, not a sequel.
Obviously there are 4 months to launch, but this is the reveal for a sequel that has had at least 2 years of development and the first impressions are that it looks like "more Destiny" and not "the next Destiny"
blue_phazon
Member
The main thing I'm disappointed in is lack of new subclasses. I wanted all 3 to be brand new, not just one for each class. And let's face it, Dawnblade is just a warlock version of titan-hammer bro, and the new Hunter one is a cooler animated arcblade.
Oh well, still day 1.
S U B C L A S S E S
I'm really hoping that the old subclasses have been heavily modified, because it seems a little samey. I do like how they added an extra ability for each class, though.
Oh well, still day 1.
S U B C L A S S E S
I'm really hoping that the old subclasses have been heavily modified, because it seems a little samey. I do like how they added an extra ability for each class, though.
Sword Of Doom
Member
If the kotaku articleis true, then expecting a new engine to support the kind of pipeline a live game like destiny needs is not unreasonable.
Since they're wiping the slate clean, I was hoping for some new classes. One new subclass is disappointing.
Its Quite Toasty
Banned
No, no they aren't. If they were the game wouldn't be as big as it has been.
Dynasty8
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Victory Red
Member
In Uncharted's world you are limited in what you can do.
This is a sci-fi looter shooter, the possibilities are endless
darkistheway
Member
I wanted light level gone. I wanted support classes. I wanted more expansive skill trees allowing a variety of build options.
I wanted more experimenting with the formula.
But from a business standpoint, I agree with what you are saying. The formula does work.
Twilight Gap
Member
Please, nobody really understood what the game was before the beta launched, especially on NeoGAF
They have 3 months or so to show the new things they've added.
People here are acting like they revealed everything there is, but we haven't actually seen the Adventure activity, the Lost Sectors, the settlements, social hubs etc etc. We've only seen one story mission. We've barely seen any weapons.
There is obviously more to see.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's not our job to come up with something new. It's our prerogative to expect more than we got.
molnizzle
Member
Uncharted 2 also looked significantly better an opened with a "holy shit" set piece moment the likes of which you never saw in the first game. It still brought the "newness."
Its Quite Toasty
Banned
Yet preorders were insane and interest was extremely high.
Sword Of Doom
Member
What do you mean?
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
As underwhelmed as I am from the initial reveal, we won't know about content breadth and depth for a while. If that shit is on point, the story is decent, the game is generally more seamless and the PvP more balanced, then I'll be more than satisfied, especially considering it's coming to PC.
No dedicated servers is a major problem though. That shit can ruin multiplayer.
No dedicated servers is a major problem though. That shit can ruin multiplayer.
Twilight Gap
Member
I haven't seen anyone act like they blew their whole load in a one hour stream. But if there is more "new" stuff to see, people are obviously going to be skeptical if it's not shown in the first reveal.
This ain't Star Wars where you can tease 5 seconds of the Falcon and sell out tickets. Destiny fans and non fans alike want to know what this game is doing that the first one didn't, and it's fair to say today's reveal didn't really address that.
There are added quests, NPCs, treasure maps and dungeons in patrol and all the locations are at least twice the size of D1.
No info on ships yet.
They overhauled and revamped explorable areas so much that the older patrol areas like Cosmodrome, Venus, Mars etc wouldn't fit the design template of D2. They'd have to go back and work on those areas to make them meet the new standard set in D2 and I doubt they'll ever do that.
For story purposes there's no reason to go back to those areas again anyway.
NinjaMouse
Member
There are two things with this, though...for one, it's not like any one complained that Halo 2 or Halo 3 just looked like an expansion of the previous games and people were over the moon for those games. Secondly, I'm not left to believe that they've exactly given away the farm with this reveal, too. I'm sure they'd like to leave some surprises for Destiny fans to discover. I, for one, think everything looks wonderful and just initiated my preorder for the digital deluxe version on PS4. I can not wait.
And according to GAF the popularity and success of Bungies past games like Halo had nothing to do with it.
this is one of the reasons I sit back from GAF for awhile lol.
people get too crazy over the basic shit and assume everything as know it alls.
Dynasty8
Member
And that opening story mission we just saw today brought "newness" and "holy shit" moments that was missing from the mediocre Destiny 1 campaign.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
I am literally shocked by people being underwhelmed....that was amazing and everything I wanted from the sequel.
+ Tanks.
I disagree, and I've got 1000s of hours clocked in with D1.
It's doing plenty D1 didn't: story/lore at the front and centre, matchmaking systems for everything, totally revamped crucible, totally revamped weapons systems and all new weapons, clan support and customisation....the list goes on, can't see how veterens would be unimpressed IMO, maybe people who didn't play the first a lot, but not veterans.
+ Tanks.
I disagree, and I've got 1000s of hours clocked in with D1.
It's doing plenty D1 didn't: story/lore at the front and centre, matchmaking systems for everything, totally revamped crucible, totally revamped weapons systems and all new weapons, clan support and customisation....the list goes on, can't see how veterens would be unimpressed IMO, maybe people who didn't play the first a lot, but not veterans.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
.......is this really true?
In the video Urk said they wanted guided games to have a "no commitment" feeling to it, but be a good way to introduce you to players. I don't know if you market a system designed to get you into the hardest and most time consuming content in the game that way.
Over the coming months we'll hear more about the system, but after I've thought about it more and watched the reveal again, I don't think this system is an in-game LFG system. I dunno when we'll get it, if ever. Guided Games is a way to find you a community to play with and expand your horizons within the game. It's basically performing the role of posting in the DGAF thread or on the Destiny Sherpa Reddit.
I know that's going to make a bunch of people mad and disappointed, but until they really clarify what the system is, I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
I also want to state that I don't disagree with you really, maybe on the "unacceptable and stubborn game design" point, but I'm just explaining how I believe the Guided Games system is meant to be understood.
Halo 3 was on a whole different console from Halo 2 along with adding a ton of new features over Halo 2.
What
molnizzle
Member
Come on. It coulda been a TTK mission.
jediyoshi
Member
Streamer I follow got his gameplay footage up
Destiny 2 Striker PvP // New gamemode Countdown 14-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5reeuarp6g4
Destiny 2 Striker PvP // New gamemode Countdown 14-1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5reeuarp6g4
Its Quite Toasty
Banned
Oh I'm sure it definitely helped but destiny found an audience far outside just halo fans.
TTK had much better mission design than previous missions but nothing on that scale. There were lots of scripted moments and actually had NPCs in combat alongside the player.
Direct capture footage looks a LOT better
That was to be expected though considering it was released on 4 platforms versus one single platform. Eitherway though I found Destiny to be a massive step down from Halo.
Twilight Gap
Member
I don't get the sense that Bungie actually shows what their game is from any of their released media unless it is an uninterrupted demo, and even then it's too heavily edited to capture what makes it interesting to begin with.
Twilight Gap
Member
All of that is talk and talk from Bungie on Destiny is cheap.
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