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Destiny 2 XBOX ONE X patch?
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panama chief
Member
I've been asking about this for weeks now. I hate that they struck a deal with Sony. X won't see a single performance boost above what we see on Pro.
Since I already did so much work on pro, no reason to even move back to Xbox.
Since I already did so much work on pro, no reason to even move back to Xbox.
ProBusinessgamer
Member
Call of Duty looks and plays better on the X, so maybe there is hope.
MrBenchmark
Member
Sony has same deal with COD and it got a patch. If Bungie fucks us over I swear Im done its bad Enough Destiny 2 is a hot fucking mess and not as fun as Destiny 1 was or is. You build on what you have created not strip the bitch down for a sequel and then add content like your doing us a favor!
If this was the other way around this place and many others would be on Fire and crying MS paid and interfered.
If this was the other way around this place and many others would be on Fire and crying MS paid and interfered.
Revolutionary
Member
The PC release has proven that the game is very CPU intensive, so the BonX can't hit a consistent 60 in D2 even if it tried. Has nothing to do with the deal.
Truthfacts
This is fucking bullshit. Destiny 2 is in no way a tech marvel. It's a blatant lie. They just aren't doing MS any favors because of the deal with sony. There isn't anything else to it.
Memorabilia
Member
I'm so glad I haven't wasted time or money on D2.
grfunkulus
Banned
My laptop with a 1060 and a i7-6700HQ would like to argue. Its a very cpu-bound game. I can run at 70-90fps at 1440p but get drops on areas with many other players/enemies down to ~45-50fps. Dropping the resolution or effects doesnt alleviate this to any degree, leading me to believe its the cpus problem. I doubt a console with a better gpu but far worse cpu would maintain 1080p (or higher) and 60fps better.
But since you seem to know everything, please tell me what Im doing wrong
MrBenchmark
Member
Yeah X is brute forcing it for sure every area that had slow down is gone its super smooth now we want our res bump!
Blam
Member
But my level playing field. How could you bungo
This. Bungie sold out big time.
SmartWaffles
Member
They haven't even patched in HDR on PS4.
Same here.
I'm not paying money to be treated like a piece of shit by Bungie.
multi year long exclusive content. The insult of putting up DLC content for the first game when the sequel was almost out.
Not even the guts to just say we'll talk about a patch soon, just silence. I don't want to think that Sony has some kind of gag order on them talking about this stuff as that would be shady as hell. But the silence from Acti/Bungie is only compounding those rumors.
SmartWaffles
Member
The last paid DLC for D1 was a full year before D2. It's not "almost".
I think they just as a studio have shown time and time again they are a bunch of children and it runs all the way to the top with Jason Jones.
Imo this smells like Halo all over again.
Let me start off by saying this is complete conjecture, but noticing the similarities, I think this is whats happening behind the scenes.
Lets start off way back in the day when the original Bungie still located in Chicago was hard at work on the original Halo project. A very ambitious vision for the time, without going into that games development problems lets skip forward to msoft courting them to bring the game to the og Xbox, and coupled with a contract that would bring the studio into msofts fold. Microsoft would own them.
Obviously Jason Jones and the higher ups at Bungie realized this was the only way forward to realize their dream so they signed the dotted line and Halo was released as a Xbox launch title to rave reviews, a community of gamers fell in love and Bungie was off to the races.
Then trouble started, you can go back and read the books , making the Xbox, and the Xbox 360 unleashed by Dean Takahashi for some of this inside material.
During Halo 2s development something happened with what I can only assume was contractual obligations not being met by Bungie on the games progress to its scheduled release. Resentment started to grow and again Im gonna go to the top and say Jason Jones felt pressured into releasing something he didnt think was ready.
You can read all about halo 2s development and it was anything but stellar.
As halo 3 started production I believe Mr Jones at this point was questioning what bungie was, was it a halo farm, was this it? Well according to the book Xbox 360 unleashed J Allard is quoted as saying, tell them (bungie) this is their job, they make halo.
Obviously this couldnt have sat well with Jones, this was his studio, his creation, his dream and he signed himself away to work indefinitely on one franchise.
This was about the time Jason Jones went underground.
He had plans, one being a new game, a new universe, but how could he get Bungie to develop a new ip? Msoft all but said f you , we own you.
What happened next , not a lot of details are out there but Bungie negotiated out of their contract with msoft. They were required to do two more games which ended up being ODST, and Reach. They also had to forfeit the Halo ip. This had to kill them but it gained independence, hell they have the contract displayed in their studio front and center saying ( DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE).
At this time Destiny was brewing, Jason Jones was back at it fully into development. They eventually secured a new CONTRACT with ACTIVISION. We will get back to this in a second.
This contract was actually leaked online at one point, and as the development of D1 came to its first major milestone it was severely behind, they needed more time. Activision gave it to them but the new date was non negotiable.
D1 was released in an unfinished state.
We eventually as time went on got a great game through updates and dlcs but the fact was the contract bungie signed missed the first major deadline and their initial release window.
I believe activision wasnt having that with D2 and what was released was again a very unfinished project due to contractual obligations.
Within the first month of D2s release we find out the entire dev team has moved on? WTF. The live team will handle things from this point forward for D2.
Where does this leave bungie?
The original contract was for a decade, and I believe the studio is right at work on D3.
I think Jason Jones is back in his bunker not involved due to his disdain for corporate bull shit. I believe hes creating the next bungie universe. While the team cranks out D3.
I believe once this contract expires they are done, done with activision, done with destiny and will move on to another publisher.
My question though is, why sign contracts that call for 3 games with major expansions in a ten year period, when in reality you want to have 5 year dev cycles?
Imo this smells like Halo all over again.
Let me start off by saying this is complete conjecture, but noticing the similarities, I think this is whats happening behind the scenes.
Lets start off way back in the day when the original Bungie still located in Chicago was hard at work on the original Halo project. A very ambitious vision for the time, without going into that games development problems lets skip forward to msoft courting them to bring the game to the og Xbox, and coupled with a contract that would bring the studio into msofts fold. Microsoft would own them.
Obviously Jason Jones and the higher ups at Bungie realized this was the only way forward to realize their dream so they signed the dotted line and Halo was released as a Xbox launch title to rave reviews, a community of gamers fell in love and Bungie was off to the races.
Then trouble started, you can go back and read the books , making the Xbox, and the Xbox 360 unleashed by Dean Takahashi for some of this inside material.
During Halo 2s development something happened with what I can only assume was contractual obligations not being met by Bungie on the games progress to its scheduled release. Resentment started to grow and again Im gonna go to the top and say Jason Jones felt pressured into releasing something he didnt think was ready.
You can read all about halo 2s development and it was anything but stellar.
As halo 3 started production I believe Mr Jones at this point was questioning what bungie was, was it a halo farm, was this it? Well according to the book Xbox 360 unleashed J Allard is quoted as saying, tell them (bungie) this is their job, they make halo.
Obviously this couldnt have sat well with Jones, this was his studio, his creation, his dream and he signed himself away to work indefinitely on one franchise.
This was about the time Jason Jones went underground.
He had plans, one being a new game, a new universe, but how could he get Bungie to develop a new ip? Msoft all but said f you , we own you.
What happened next , not a lot of details are out there but Bungie negotiated out of their contract with msoft. They were required to do two more games which ended up being ODST, and Reach. They also had to forfeit the Halo ip. This had to kill them but it gained independence, hell they have the contract displayed in their studio front and center saying ( DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE).
At this time Destiny was brewing, Jason Jones was back at it fully into development. They eventually secured a new CONTRACT with ACTIVISION. We will get back to this in a second.
This contract was actually leaked online at one point, and as the development of D1 came to its first major milestone it was severely behind, they needed more time. Activision gave it to them but the new date was non negotiable.
D1 was released in an unfinished state.
We eventually as time went on got a great game through updates and dlcs but the fact was the contract bungie signed missed the first major deadline and their initial release window.
I believe activision wasnt having that with D2 and what was released was again a very unfinished project due to contractual obligations.
Within the first month of D2s release we find out the entire dev team has moved on? WTF. The live team will handle things from this point forward for D2.
Where does this leave bungie?
The original contract was for a decade, and I believe the studio is right at work on D3.
I think Jason Jones is back in his bunker not involved due to his disdain for corporate bull shit. I believe hes creating the next bungie universe. While the team cranks out D3.
I believe once this contract expires they are done, done with activision, done with destiny and will move on to another publisher.
My question though is, why sign contracts that call for 3 games with major expansions in a ten year period, when in reality you want to have 5 year dev cycles?
Liliana Eileen
Member
Given how much Sony pays them to keep stuff off Xbox for as long as possible, and Bungies willingness to shit on their longtime fans, it might be a while before we see this.
Revolutionary
Member
???
So you're saying the PC version being CPU-bound is a ruse?
pretty done
Member
Blizzard obviously paid off Activision to ensure HDR is exclusive to PC.
hikarutilmitt
Member
Of course! And if you think otherwise you're a shill and worship $ony!!
But seriously, they've said as much regarding it being 30fps on consoles. It's CPU heavy for physics and AI.
lol
It is bullshit. The game can run 1080p 60fps on a G4560:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lgLfSj4-oA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lgLfSj4-oA
SmartWaffles
Member
Destiny 2 is not in any way a CPU heavy game. Maybe too heavy for the console's Jaguar though lol since the G4560 smokes them from high orbit.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
No way. Blizzard paid off Nintendo.
Hes probaly reffering to the sony exclusive content that was held back from xbox till d2 launched
SirNinja
Member
Swear to god, this game makes some people absolutely nuts.
Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it that way. There's going to be a patch, but those things take time to not only make but to pass through certification, which both Sony and MS have. Wait a bit.
Uh, except there's already a non-Sony version of D2 that performs vastly better than the PS4 version, so there goes that conspiracy theory...
Just because you want something to be true doesn't make it that way. There's going to be a patch, but those things take time to not only make but to pass through certification, which both Sony and MS have. Wait a bit.
Uh, except there's already a non-Sony version of D2 that performs vastly better than the PS4 version, so there goes that conspiracy theory...
TheSpecialOne
Banned
Lol as if the G4560 isn't more powerful that the Jaguar in both the Xbox One X and the PS4 Pro. They're using the exact same cpu. The jaguar in the X happens to be clocked 200mhz higher. 200mhz is enough of a difference for maybe 55fps -> 60fps but it's certainly not enough for 30 fps -> 60 fps
grfunkulus
Banned
Yeah, in campaign which is all that DF tested. Public events are much more demanding. Do some research next time
Revolutionary
Member
First off, if you actually watched the video you would see it's not a steady 60 at all. Second, the intro missions of the game are not a good benchmark. Trostland (EDZ) is where the CPU really starts to get worked out. Lastly, the G4560 is a better CPU than what is found in the current gen consoles.
I mean, that's the point we're trying to get across. It's too CPU intensive for a steady 60 on consoles, based off of it's performance on PC.
hikarutilmitt
Member
Except that was from the beta 2 months ago on a closed area of the first story mission. No patrol, not even the strike that was available from what I can see in the video. Of course that won't be a problem.
Kamina
Golden Boy
A game doesnt need to be a technical marvel in order to be CPU intensive. Being badly optimized is enough.
SmartWaffles
Member
Oh I misread that. In that case... the exclusive content came to Xbox AFTER D2 launched... And you 100% can expect the D2 exclusive content to follow that pattern.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
I blame Dixie Carter.
We get it. You hate Sony, but disgustingly pays them huh?...guess all lucrative business deals should be labeled as "disgusting". You may not like it, but that's business. Happened during the 360 days, and now it's happening with the PS4. Kinda childish to make remarks this garish don't you think?
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Please this is clearly a Russo booking.
Its cpu clock dependent?
1080ti = 11.3 TFLOPs
60fps xb1x/ps4 pro = imposibiru!
30fps players against 60pfs players in pvp ?
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Then it seems Sony's money was well-spent.
Hmm...
On December 5, along with the launch of Curse of Osiris and Season Two, well be deploying an update to Destiny 2 that will deliver stunning gameplay with high dynamic range (HDR) lighting to these new consoles. Youll also see adaptive 4K resolution on the PlayStation 4 Pro and 4K on the Xbox One X.
https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/46467
MrBenchmark
Member
I agree that dlc stuff has been happening forever now, but is there another game that's held back dlc for over a year? I can understand a few months or something, but Xbox FINALLY got the first DLC that was held back AFTER D2 came out. Idc if it's "business" or not. That's complete bullshit. Especially to the fans who got you where you are today. No one even knew Bungie made games til after Halo. Ask someone who made Oni and they'll look at you confused (if they even know what that game is). Ask someone who made Halo and they can most likely tell you.
Lol I think its more of a Bungie issue. Honestly, I wish Vicarious Visions was in charge of D2 console (assuming the level of work is the same as their PC work.)