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DF: Dark Souls 3 Xbox One Frame-Rate Test
- Thread starter Zombie James
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JetSetRadio
Banned
Sounds bad, coming from ds2 scholar on ps4 I might have to play this on pc.
cross gen games ?
DS2 SoTFS is 1080 60fps on PS4/XB1,with enhanced lighting and higher enemy counts everwhere.
You can polish a turd......
JetSetRadio
Banned
It looks like shit though most of the time and those low fps animations in the background are a joke.
QuantumSquid
Member
http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/dark-souls-iii-3-pc-cd-key-steam
About 41€. CDKeys is legit, too, they aren't shady like G2A.
Demanufacture
Banned
It's basically just the PC version from 2014 with some contrast adjustments though.
Frame pacing really killed my enjoyment in Bloodborne, so I guess I'll have to wait to build a new rig. Oh well.
This has less to do with the hardware itself and more to do with the fact that From has and sadly is looking to always never put a premium on performance.
This has less to do with the hardware itself and more to do with the fact that From has and sadly is looking to always never put a premium on performance.
Green Yoshi
Member
I miss cross gen games. :-(
Teletraan1
Banned
Will play on PC only and it was never an option to play anywhere else with how shitty this developer is at locking down performance on fixed hardware. I expect both console versions to be a bit of a mess. Don't expect a patch either. They only patch things when they fuck up DLC.
Love their games but absolutely hate the way they shit games onto platforms with little to no regard for how their games perform or the quality of their ports. There are enough examples on every platform that this cannot be disputed. I thought they had turned a corner with DS2: SotFS on console but I guess not.
Love their games but absolutely hate the way they shit games onto platforms with little to no regard for how their games perform or the quality of their ports. There are enough examples on every platform that this cannot be disputed. I thought they had turned a corner with DS2: SotFS on console but I guess not.
Well, both Xbox One and PS4 are very underpowered. If not, most games would run at least 1080p at 60fps. They managed to get the PC version to 60fps with all bells and whistles at least.
I won't dispute that, but From having performance problems is nothing new, and frame-pacing issues aren't super common across the board on consoles, even in games that are doing more than DaS3.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Thanks DF.
You made my PC choice easy.
Now i need to install a new HDD...
Or do I?
How large is DS3 file size?
You made my PC choice easy.
Now i need to install a new HDD...
Or do I?
How large is DS3 file size?
The Division on PS4 too
Insane Metal
Member
Jesus, as soon as the video starts it feels the game is in slow motion.
Oh boy... One poster in the Import OT thread with Xbox One and PS4 copies of DS3 says the PS4 version feels even more jittery to him than the Xbox Version...
https://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=199046046
Neither console might be safe... D:
Anxiously awaiting DF's teardown on the PS4 version...
https://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=199046046
Neither console might be safe... D:
Anxiously awaiting DF's teardown on the PS4 version...
mocolostrocolos
Member
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with the hit boxes in this game?
Here's a video I recorded of the first area and an enemy:
https://account.xbox.com/es-ES/game...los&scid=daa10100-4276-45b8-8461-93b53e13d0e0
Here's a video I recorded of the first area and an enemy:
https://account.xbox.com/es-ES/game...los&scid=daa10100-4276-45b8-8461-93b53e13d0e0
deadscreensky
Member
I had a friend who suggested the same, and this argument is nonsensical. When other games (like Max Payne series or Cave shoot-em-ups) deliberately go into slow motion like the staircase does in Ninja Gaiden 2, it makes things easier. Because that's what slow motion does, and that was also the obvious intention with the NG2 staircase. Team Ninja threw dozens of enemies at you with place to hide because with slow motion they knew the player could handle that. It's supposed to be a breather, a place the player gets to kick ass and enjoy it in a game that is otherwise trying to murder you non-stop. That's why so many players love it.
It's not ignoring your inputs or skipping frames, which would make it hard. It's just slow motion, everything else is still going on normally. Why would having more time to react and plan make anything harder?
It's also not bad frame pacing, because the pacing is just normal but slower.
HDD install probably didn't do anything, it's that later patches massively toned down the number of enemies in that section. A shame, launch staircase fight was one of the best gaming moments of the seventh gen.
Anyway, on-topic: while I know we can probably fix this on PC, but I'm still worried how easy that's going to be. I notice this shit really easily, it gives me headaches. Wish the game supported above-60 framerates, that would make it so much less of an issue.
Cannon Goose
Member
In Dark Souls 1 you don't really have to be in range of the enemy to land your crits. I imagine it's similar for Dark Souls 3.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Whadddddup 25 fps?!
The Far Cry games are a solid 30.
OnionPowder
Member
Arkham Knight was pretty solid as well
No they would just up the graphics more so it still runs like shit. Every generation is a big jump in power but do games ever really run better?
Welp, I guess that's that. I was seriously considering double-dipping and grabbing the Xbone version right away with that JP shop trick. This news isn't really a surprise I guess, but it's still pretty disappointing.
Three weeks for the PC version. Come the fuck on, Bamco. ( ._.)
Three weeks for the PC version. Come the fuck on, Bamco. ( ._.)
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Well they are going to keep getting away with it as long as fans keep bending over and saying, "sounds like a souls game!" And they buy it anyway.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
The hardware is a joke tho. Both the Xbox and ps4 are weak. Games look ruff abd run poorly. I love my consoles but it is something we need to accept. We wouldn't be hearing of rumblings of new upgraded systems if this wasn't the case. Anything that is true Llysfaen next gen and not cross generation is sacrificed in some way. Especially compared to pc
games these days are around 50g. id bet around there.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Lol blame "weak" hardware all you want, they have been releasing shittily optimized games for years. It's them, not the hardware.
Sanctuary
Member
Glad I didn't cave and order it early on the consoles. Waiting for the PC version. Although wouldn't that be some shit if it had similar performance issues?'
That theory was already debunked with Bloodborne. It had a ton of problems too (although according to the average GAF poster on the subject it didn't).
That's entirely untrue. In fact, it was about an equal split when discussing the overall design of the game and the hitbox/hurtbox problems. Let's not start revising history just because a new Miyazaki game has been released.
Why show just the average though? Lowest framerate is more important IMO. Although, unless you're using something that displays framerates as your guage while you actually play, benchmarks can be horribly misleading at times, especially with transitions. Unigine Valley for example tanks minium framrates every time it switches scenes, even when you're able to run it at 60fps flawlessly.
That theory was already debunked with Bloodborne. It had a ton of problems too (although according to the average GAF poster on the subject it didn't).
That's entirely untrue. In fact, it was about an equal split when discussing the overall design of the game and the hitbox/hurtbox problems. Let's not start revising history just because a new Miyazaki game has been released.
Why show just the average though? Lowest framerate is more important IMO. Although, unless you're using something that displays framerates as your guage while you actually play, benchmarks can be horribly misleading at times, especially with transitions. Unigine Valley for example tanks minium framrates every time it switches scenes, even when you're able to run it at 60fps flawlessly.
This is irrelevant.
There are exceptional console ports this gen from other devs.
Lay the blame on From Software, who've had an extensive history of releasing poor console ports.
+1
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Sorry to hear, but it's pretty much as I'd expect.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
It's not really a travesty, it's better than normal console souls.
It also looks a fuck ton better in every way.
It also looks a fuck ton better in every way.
Bloodborne was never patched for frame-pacing. I wouldn't get my hopes high at all.
So glad I preordered on PC. It's hard to believe this old ass PC with a 680 that I bought used off a friend will play games better than this 2 year old console. While I agree that both consoles appear to be a lot weaker than the same points last generation, at least the PS4 is able sometimes hit the 1080p target at 30 fps.
I meant for actual framerate drops, not frame-pacing.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Sounds pretty terrible. Much like DkS1. And their inability to sort out the frame-pacing is honestly a bit pathetic. I'm still getting the game, but man, From kinda suck and engine development. They should just use UE or something.
But it's apparently much worse than BB. Why? Is it doing that much more?
But it's apparently much worse than BB. Why? Is it doing that much more?
I don't think they ever fixed the drops in Old Yarnham and in co-op, either. The only real technical improvement that got in were the load times.
EatinOlives
Member
You don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm saying Demon's Souls, Dark Souls 1, and Bloodborne all had bad performance issues (some moreso than others, but still present). Hitbox issues is tangential to my point.