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DF: Fallout 4 - PS4 Pro patch vs. Boost Mode (unpatched)
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alexbull_uk
Member
Oh, Bethesda.
They really need to just add some visual settings in the menu.
They really need to just add some visual settings in the menu.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Yep. There really needs to be a system wide option to disable Pro patches.
Sad Affleck
Member
You gotta love Bethesda.
Gen.Grievous
Member
Fallout 4 runs and looks better on Pro, even with Pro Patch. There are however some spots on the PS4 Pro version that had better performance without the latest Fallout 4 patch. Not worth the loss in IQ though imo.
The pro patch improves frame rates over the non-pro version, along with improved resolution and draw distance.
It's a pretty solid patch, actually.
Alkastelca
Member
Of course they fucked up. Expect nothing from Bethesda.
Rellik
Member
Did you read the OP? Boost Mode makes it run smoother than the Pro patch, but there's no official option to allow us to run it with the smoother update.
This needs to be a thing. We shouldn't be getting patches that makes the framerate worse.
It still looks and runs better than base PS4
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
This should be an option too if it affects framerate. The changes to god rays, foliage density, and draw distance probably had a bigger impact on framerate than resolution.
or more like have a resolution mode and framerate mode, like in some games (or 1080p and 4k modes). If it had a 1080p mode the game would run better and look better than non patch boost mode.
Gen.Grievous
Member
The ability to remove patches would be amazing but you can't even do that on PC anymore thanks to steam and similar clients that autopatch and install the latest versions. Don't expect this feature for consoles.
I did. My reply was to someone that wasn't talking about boost mode.
FYI I don't even have boost mode available to me yet so 1.14 was a solid, noticeable upgrade for me.
Gen.Grievous
Member
Boost is not objectively better than Pro. Boost version looks a lot worse if you like a clean image.
Heh. You are going to catch some people with this.
BigEmil
Junior Member
This is not the fault of the hardware but Bethesda devs design choices of the game on the Pro, your thinking of PS5 which is still way off, Pro is simply a bumped up PS4 mid gen aimed for enthusiasts
Yes because it's the hardware and totally not the software optimization....
Just look at Titanfall and some other games. They do know how to use it.
Oh, I was talking framerate wise.
metalslimer
Member
More power would not automatically make the game run more optimized. Jesus I saw an 18 fps segment, wtf bethesda
Rollo Tomasi
Member
I played with the Pro patch last night and there were some sections with some extreme slow down walking through a random town, it felt like I was playing the base game again.
Maintenance
Member
Told you so.
Clockwork
Member
I'm confused by the disdain regarding this.
Per the article the PS4 Pro patch delivers expected upgrades (higher res, better god rays, draw distance) and yet offers better performance than the base PS4.
This is exactly the kind of thing I expected when buying into the Pro.
But no...just because boost mode is even faster (but has no upgrades from the base version) somehow Bethesda screwed up and this sucks?
Come on.
Per the article the PS4 Pro patch delivers expected upgrades (higher res, better god rays, draw distance) and yet offers better performance than the base PS4.
This is exactly the kind of thing I expected when buying into the Pro.
But no...just because boost mode is even faster (but has no upgrades from the base version) somehow Bethesda screwed up and this sucks?
Come on.
Bethesda did a really nice job with the patch.
They increased the resolution, the graphical settings and framerate of the game compared to the standard PS4 version.
That's a great achievement.
The fact that boost mode can achieve a higher framerate is obvious given that there's no res bump and no graphical upgrades so all the extra power is used to boost the framerate.
They might add an extra setting for those who simply want the best possible framerate without anything extra compared to basic PS4 but people should not expect consoles to become PCs in terms of freedom of choosing settings.
What Bethesda settled with seems to be the best compromise to me, there are improvements in every aspect compared to standard PS4.
They increased the resolution, the graphical settings and framerate of the game compared to the standard PS4 version.
That's a great achievement.
The fact that boost mode can achieve a higher framerate is obvious given that there's no res bump and no graphical upgrades so all the extra power is used to boost the framerate.
They might add an extra setting for those who simply want the best possible framerate without anything extra compared to basic PS4 but people should not expect consoles to become PCs in terms of freedom of choosing settings.
What Bethesda settled with seems to be the best compromise to me, there are improvements in every aspect compared to standard PS4.
Clockwork
Member
Exactly what I am wondering.
Well no, you've been going on about the Pro mode running like shit when it's a significant improvement to the framerate compared to the base mode.
Zombie James
Banned
So, skip the patch and use boost mode instead? Sony does what Bethesdon't.
edit: The biggest technical issue with Fallout 4 is it's a jerky stuttery mess made worse by the fact there isn't any motion blur at all to smooth things over. The Pro patch helps but not enough. If I were to play Fallout 4 again, I'd take as close to 30fps as possible over draw distance and god rays.
edit: The biggest technical issue with Fallout 4 is it's a jerky stuttery mess made worse by the fact there isn't any motion blur at all to smooth things over. The Pro patch helps but not enough. If I were to play Fallout 4 again, I'd take as close to 30fps as possible over draw distance and god rays.
If you want to play the 1080p version without enhancements sure.
Seriously, GAF hyperbole at its finest.
CouchMaster
Member
Bethesda would still fuck it up by bumping the res to 4K and run it like ass again.
You guys do realize how hardware works right? The boost patch is using the bandwidth of the system all for the CPU and modest GPU upclock.
Bethesda is using the bandwidth fo a res boost and visual upgrades in addition to lesser FPS increases but still better than base PS4.
Its not necessarily about them being incompetent, the power of the pro is being utilized in different ways. Without boost mode, the game would have still run better than PS4.
Now i will say they are bad at optimization, as the game should not have launched in such bad state on base PS4 to begin with, but that has nothing to do with the pro patch or boost mode.
Bethesda is using the bandwidth fo a res boost and visual upgrades in addition to lesser FPS increases but still better than base PS4.
Its not necessarily about them being incompetent, the power of the pro is being utilized in different ways. Without boost mode, the game would have still run better than PS4.
Now i will say they are bad at optimization, as the game should not have launched in such bad state on base PS4 to begin with, but that has nothing to do with the pro patch or boost mode.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Focusing on visuals over performance is screwing up, for every developer.
If you're only interested in performance, yes. Otherwise you miss out on all the other visual enhancements.
Maintenance
Member
While getting 30fps otherwise. Yep, not wrong.
I'm not saying this randomly, I played the game, but I did not have the tools to show that. Now they did.
Clockwork
Member
Like ass?
It runs better with the Pro patch (and looks better) than anyone running it on a standard PS4.
This thread is seriously triggering me. Lol
randomusername
Member
Well color me surprised, Pro patch makes it run better than the standard PS4. Here I was thinking it would run worst because Bethesda
CouchMaster
Member
Who's talking about standard PS4 fam? We're talking about Pro patch version on Pro vs unpatched boost mode on Pro.
Blame Sony, who decided to balance the system to favor graphical upgrades and resolution boosts, not bethesda's patch which is prioritizing that.
Some people should actually understand that that is the entire draw of the Pro. Boost mode is primarily intended for older games.
I'm all for clowning on Bethesda's technical failings but I think in this case, they delivered a pretty solid patch over the base PS4. Better performance, higher res, better draw distances, and improved lighting.
I don't think an option to disable the Pro patches is even feasible and I doubt many, if any, devs were aware of the feature being implemented.
I am curious though, are there more areas that tank the framerate like the top of the Corvega Factory? That's the one area where it was a substantial difference between Boost and the patch and if there are others then it should be addressed in some way.
I don't think an option to disable the Pro patches is even feasible and I doubt many, if any, devs were aware of the feature being implemented.
I am curious though, are there more areas that tank the framerate like the top of the Corvega Factory? That's the one area where it was a substantial difference between Boost and the patch and if there are others then it should be addressed in some way.
Wait, doesn't the Boost mode favor exactly the opposite?
The really issue here is that you can't choose Boost mode if you have 1.14 installed. With this extra power, players deserve the choice of performance over graphics (or vice versa).
Why, so Bethesda can add more draw distance, more godrays, and 4K native resolution so it still runs sub-30 fps?