People think devs just hit some switches and its done Hahahah and then complain when games are buggy, lazy devs lol. I want free, gimmie gimme.Charging for this is pretty absurd IMO. Not gonna defend this.
Give updates for free. They already sold tons. Fucking greedy bastards. Even the grass LOD hasn't been improved. They probably could have changed that just by changing a number in the source code.
There is no PS5 version of Ghost of Tsushima. Only the Director's Cut.I think the argument is that you should be able to upgrade the original ps4 version to the ps5 version without having to fork out for the extra island etc.. There is no 10 dollar ps4 to ps5 vanilla upgrade
Then buy it on the competitors platform.... oh wait .. .Defending the $10 upgrade?
Oh.. no, local Saves /s
3d Audio is just a gimmick word. Every game basically supports it.
Checkerboard 4k at 60fps? it's free on competitors platform
on the other hand 4tf ps4 pro do 30fps 1800cb so you have double frames and 44% more pixels (also cb by sucker punch is one of best implementation), interesting that its first game that shows quite big difference ps5 native vs bc (bc mode 1800cb has fps drops during photomode, native 0 drops with 44% more pixels)They seriously couldnt do native 4k 60 fps?
This is a 1080p 30 fps game. You need a 14 tflops GCN 1.0 GPU to do 4k 60 fps. a 10 tflops PS5 should easily be at least 15 GCN 1.0 tflops. I would expect at least dynamic 4k 60 fps that goes down to 1800p if the framerate dips during action scenes.
And this is why you need VRR. They are leaving a lot of performance on the table in order to achieve a locked 60 fps.
Performance doesn't always scale linearly with TFLOPS like that. There are a lot of different factors to consider as well like bandwidth contention, inefficiencies in parts of the GPU, etc.They seriously couldnt do native 4k 60 fps?
This is a 1080p 30 fps game. You need a 14 tflops GCN 1.0 GPU to do 4k 60 fps. a 10 tflops PS5 should easily be at least 15 GCN 1.0 tflops. I would expect at least dynamic 4k 60 fps that goes down to 1800p if the framerate dips during action scenes.
And this is why you need VRR. They are leaving a lot of performance on the table in order to achieve a locked 60 fps.
Forgive me but I don't believe for a second this game runs 4k CBR 60 fps because it's taxing. They just put a minimal effort in the ps5 version and that's it. The LOD is very low in this game if it's the same of the PS4, I don't think native 4k was impossible with the ps5 hardware. Game which use DRS on ps5 have a vastly improved graphic setting compared the PS4. That's why 4k native was taxing. Said that is a great game, but the graphic upgrade is ridiculous especially because is not free. Shame.Performance doesn't always scale linearly with TFLOPS like that. There are a lot of different factors to consider as well like bandwidth contention, inefficiencies in parts of the GPU, etc.
This is why despite RX 6900 XT being capable of over 2x the FP32 TFLOPS of 6600 XT, the relative perf is not always 2x fast on the 6900 XT... In fact, the avg perf differential is a bit less than 2x.
It's 4K CBR. You can't turn off CBR at least you prefer to play at 1920x2160p.This is one of the worst upgrades we've seen.
I'm not touching this until there is a deep sale (like <$30 for the disc version) or they patch it to bring in more upgrades.
- They have performance and resolution modes, but the FPS is identical. The only change is that it drops the res in performance mode. So it's a mode to lower image quality without any benefit to frame rate or graphical settings. This tells me that this is BARELY a PS5 game and they probably just recompiled it or whatever instead of doing any real work to take advantage of the PS5 hardware.
- A few random textures are higher quality. OH MAN.
- The draw distance is exactly the same, despite the fact that the PS5 has an immense bandwidth, RAM, and CPU advantage over the PS4.
- Shadow resolution is identical. Something that is probably a variable in an ini file wasn't changed for the PS5 version.
- All the cut scenes are now real time, but they're all 30 fps. If you play the PS4 version on PS5, though, you get the real time cutscenes at 60 fps.
- Load times, which were fast already, are faster.
- The game runs at full 4k in resolution mode, but there are still somehow checkboarding artifacts present. They couldn't turn it off?
- No enhancements to any graphical effects.
What a crock of shit.
Pay for the graphic upgrade has sense if it's worthy. Not seems the case here.The fact that there are people on NeoGAF who are actually advocating for paid 'upgrades' that have been free for decades is fucking depressing. This is just as nauseating as horse armour was 15 years ago, and is completely in keeping with Sony's new philosophy: 'Fuck you cunts, give us your fucking money now'.
Nahhhh. I'm good.
Does it, though? Does it really?Pay for the graphic upgrade has sense if it's worthy. Not seems the case here.
As I have already said, it depends of the effort of the developers. Your comparison is really stupid anywayDoes it, though? Does it really?
These games are already really fucking expensive, and you think that Sony should be paid AGAIN just for updating their game to run on their own new system?
Shit, why not pay them a daily tithe for system updates too. What's wrong? Don't you want devs to be paid?
What does that even mean? What constitutes 'effort'? And, who gives a fuck about the 'effort' they've put in? You're not grading a test paper, these are consumer products, and you have absolutely no relationship to any of these people.As I have already said, it depends of the effort of the developers.
The hell you are talking about now as I said, if the developers put a lot of work in the graphic upgrade, tech wise, I don't think it's wrong ask to extra money for it. Now what SP did is embarrassing and doesn't deserves a single penny.What does that even mean? What constitutes 'effort'? And, who gives a fuck about the 'effort' they've put in? You're not grading a test paper, these are consumer products, and you have absolutely no relationship to any of these people.
I would have thought it was fairly obvious. You said that paying for game upgrades that used to be free is worth it depending on the 'effort' involved. I'm pointing out that using 'effort' as a measure of value is preposterous from a consumer perspective, and that you shouldn't give a shit about the 'effort' since these are consumer purchases, you aren't friends with these people.The hell you are talking about now
Most of the developers always claims to put a limited number of employees and hours of job because it's "for free". Now if they can put more resources just making pay, I have nothing against it.I would have thought it was fairly obvious. You said that paying for game upgrades that used to be free is worth it depending on the 'effort' involved. I'm pointing out that using 'effort' as a measure of value is preposterous from a consumer perspective, and that you shouldn't give a shit about the 'effort' since these are consumer purchases, you aren't friends with these people.
Would you like me to simply the post even further for you, or will that do?
So, what if they worked EXTRA hard and charged three times as much for an upgrade? Would you pay that, too? I guess you would.Most of the developers put a minimal number of employees and hours of job because it's "free". Now if they can put more resources just making pay, I have nothing against it.
I suspect you want just to blame me, not discuss about this matter. The level of absurdity you start to spread out it's palpable.So, what if they worked EXTRA hard and charged three times as much for an upgrade? Would you pay that, too? I guess you would.
Blame you? What are you talking about?I suspect you want just to blame me and not discuss about this matter and nothing more it seems. The level of absurdity you start to spread out it's palpable.
Did you at least read my post?Blame you? What are you talking about?
I'm engaging with the premise that you presented - that value is predicated on the effort involved. What's the problem?
I did. You said that paying for upgrades that were once free is worth it if there is enough 'effort' involved. We are exploring that, and for some reason, it seems to be making you uncomfortable.Did you at least read my post?
Time = money.I did. You said that paying for upgrades that were once free is worth it if there is enough 'effort' involved. We are exploring that, and for some reason, it seems to be making you uncomfortable.
So you didn't read my post. Because I never said something like that.I did. You said that paying for upgrades that were once free is worth it if there is enough 'effort' involved. We are exploring that, and for some reason, it seems to be making you uncomfortable.
I did. I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.So you didn't read my post.
Can you point to me where I ever said we should pay for the free graphic upgrade received until now?I did. I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.
The hell you are talking about now as I said, if the developers put a lot of work in the graphic upgrade, tech wise, I don't think it's wrong ask to extra money for it. Now what SP did is embarrassing and doesn't deserves a single penny.
I mean, why are you wasting my time like this?Most of the developers always claims to put a limited number of employees and hours of job because it's "for free". Now if they can put more resources just making pay, I have nothing against it.
Why you are so dense? I explained to you what I meant for extra effort. I never said we should pay for the graphic upgrade just for the sake of pay them. You are incredible lol. As I said if pay means put more hours of job and more graphic enhancement, I nothing against it. Not make me repeat it for the third time because you can't can stand my opinion loloI mean, why are you wasting my time like this?
Morgan Freeman voice:Yeah, this is genuinely an embarrassing release. I’m surprise reviewers are actually reviewing it. I wouldn’t have bothered. hopefully Sony will catch some flak for this and they can actually start putting some effing effort into this shit.
You're the one who is being dense here, bud. Between your inarticulate posts and your goal shifting, you are making this even more pointless than it was at the start. Your babblings about 'effort' are ridiculous excuse making for exploitative, predatory bullshit. Enough now, the adults are talking.Why you are so dense? I explained to you what I meant for extra effort. I never said we should pay for the graphic upgrade just for the sake of pay. You are incredible lol.
The adults he said. My God. Talking about goal shifting. You know there are people with different opinions in the world fortunately.You're the one who is being dense here, bud. Between your inarticulate posts and your goal shifting, you are making this even more pointless than it was at the start. Your babblings about 'effort' are ridiculous excuse making for exploitative, predatory bullshit. Enough now, the adults are talking.
Shhh. Enough now.The adults he said. My God.
The fuck is your problem? Lol.Shhh. Enough now.
At the moment? I'm talking to a moron. A moron who keeps editing his posts to save face.The fuck is your problem? Lol.
What exactly I have editing to save my face?At the moment? I'm talking to a moron. A moron who keeps editing his posts to save face.
This sentence is literal gibberish.What exactly I have editing to save money face?
Jeez how old are you exactly?This sentence is literal gibberish.
20-70 lmaoSi basically no visual differences whatsoever except in resolution. And it is charged an extra 10$, yikes
I'm sorry, but 'What exactly I have editing to save money face?' is gibberish.Jeez how old are you exactly?