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DF: The Matrix Awakens Tech Analysis + PS5 vs Xbox Series S/X Performance Analysis
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
51 minutes. Awesome. Cant wait to see how Alex manages to ruin this one. lol
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Buggy Loop
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ethomaz
Banned
The Matrix Awakens is an unmissable next-gen showcase
After teasing us with a pre-load earlier in the week, The Matrix Awakens: An Unreal Engine 5 experience has finally unl…
www.eurogamer.net
Inside The Matrix Awakens: a vision for the future of real-time graphics
For Digital Foundry, the highlight of The Game Awards wasn't actually an award as such or even a massive triple-A revea…
www.eurogamer.net
I believe the second article is the related to OP video.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
When you’re talking about anything matrix and unreal engine expect to fire up people who care about graphics. You think Zelda fans care about this? You think Nintendo fans care about this?
Physiognomonics
Member
Of course he did. It was expected. From the start (since 2 years ago) in his mind PS5 couldn't have the advantage in a compute heavy game so he made it so.
ethomaz
Banned
PS5 / Series X
- Resolution between 1404p-1620p on avg… in intense parts down to 1080p or lower… uses TSR to reach 4k output.
- Framerate seems better on PS5 (video) but all are bad (see All section).
Series S
- Max 875p but goes below 720p… reaches 1080p output via TSR.
- Feature reduction in detail and RT.
All
- TSR can be disabled in options.
- Framerate is bad.
- Framepacing is bad that even if the game was 120Hz it should be bad… neither VRR can save here.
- Frametime spikes to 100ms.
- Drops can reach low as 20fps.
- Cutscenes are 24fps.
They were very superficial in the article avoiding to make comparisons you can see it is the same new trend of others recent DF articles.
PS. NXGamer probably focused his analysis in a stressing part of the demo that can show 1080p or even lower native resolution in PS5/SeriesX before people call there are different… actually they saw the same things.
- Resolution between 1404p-1620p on avg… in intense parts down to 1080p or lower… uses TSR to reach 4k output.
- Framerate seems better on PS5 (video) but all are bad (see All section).
Series S
- Max 875p but goes below 720p… reaches 1080p output via TSR.
- Feature reduction in detail and RT.
All
- TSR can be disabled in options.
- Framerate is bad.
- Framepacing is bad that even if the game was 120Hz it should be bad… neither VRR can save here.
- Frametime spikes to 100ms.
- Drops can reach low as 20fps.
- Cutscenes are 24fps.
They were very superficial in the article avoiding to make comparisons you can see it is the same new trend of others recent DF articles.
PS. NXGamer probably focused his analysis in a stressing part of the demo that can show 1080p or even lower native resolution in PS5/SeriesX before people call there are different… actually they saw the same things.
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Hilarious post, since he did the same thing on Xbox (accelerating and then crashing).
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Digital foundry rigging the results?
Lol
We need a pc version and fast!
Lol
We need a pc version and fast!
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240fps? lol
You can't be serious..... It is as if another say that in the XSX version is all the time colliding with other cars which is what usually affects the framerate more ..... You see, even no does not even highlight that PS5 has more framepacing problems but sure is biased
Brock2621
Member
Hahaha I think this every time he is on a video
Glad to know I’m not the only oneWhat? he was going 107MPH on PS5 side swiping cars on the side but only went up to 80MPH briefly on Xbox Series X
Epic Sax CEO
Banned
It's becoming one of those comforting facts of life.
Dolomite
Member
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Briefly because he crashes into a bunch of cars.
Imagine being this salty about a draw.
I'm not salty about the way the demo came out I'm pointing out that he didn't show them both while speeding through the city
Mr Moose
Member
I think he means because they say the faster you travel, the more it tanks performance (with the free cam, I assume it would in theory be the same when travelling by car).
Zathalus
Member
The drops to 20fps on both consoles occur when the accidents happen, this is a heaviest drop that occurs (heavier then simply driving fast).
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Big collisions drop the frame rate the most (to 20 fps). Alex showed it on both consoles.
ethomaz
Banned
I fixed
Cherrypepsi
Member
Great video, lots of things learned.
I agree that I was somehow sceptic about the 2020 UE5 demo that was supposedly running on a PS5.
I didn't know that Lumen was now actually hardware accelerated ray tracing.
Just amazing that consoles in the price range of 299-499 can create these graphics in real time. it's insane!
It blows my mind when I look at Cyberpunk and the PC specs you need to drive the game at max settings, it still looks lame compared to UE5, to the point where I believe CDPR would be better off starting from scratch in UE5 ;-)
I agree that I was somehow sceptic about the 2020 UE5 demo that was supposedly running on a PS5.
I didn't know that Lumen was now actually hardware accelerated ray tracing.
Just amazing that consoles in the price range of 299-499 can create these graphics in real time. it's insane!
It blows my mind when I look at Cyberpunk and the PC specs you need to drive the game at max settings, it still looks lame compared to UE5, to the point where I believe CDPR would be better off starting from scratch in UE5 ;-)
Because is the transition cutscene to gameplay LOL.
Some of you go to ridiculous extremes.
PD.That by the way min 39:10 or no!! problems streaming and loading textures on PS5. How strange that here we are told that it was only XSX and its I/O problems
Seriously, your hatred to Alex and DF reaches sickly limits.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
You think DJ Khaled gets out of bed for 1 fps?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They rarely show like for like in these comparisons, and I don’t understand how, considering one-man crews are able to do it more often than not.
He said about 10MB per frame that would be 300MB/s for 30fps & 600MB/s for 60fps
yeah literally ignoring 50 minutes worth of good discussion just to comment on muh numbers. its so predictable lol
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Yeah I noticed that in the demo myself, the geometry while nice, wasn’t as detailed as all the intricate rock formations in the first demo last year. Also there was far more pop in, where last years demo had none.
Mr Moose
Member
You don't know me...
It's Tom I don't trust, I don't care about Alex, I was joking with my post about 2fps.
Aren't you the same person who said Epic have zero experience with the Series consoles?
Vognerful
Member
ok, maybe not easily, but still within capabilities of SATA III SSD, my point stands.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They’re the ones that help facilitate this Khalid culture, yet they sit back and laugh about it as if they’re above it all.
While I agree, it’s all nonsense and noise, they’re full of shit if they don’t think comparisons are what fuels all this bullshit. They literally started out on Gaf, signal boosted here balls deep in the wars when grassgate was a thing.
The fanatical comparisons of war camps are what drives their engagement. If it were just normal neutral tech people watching and discussing, that engagement would be far less, they know it, we know it, let’s not kid ourselves.
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KuraiShidosha
Member
Guy singlehandedly ruined the channel for me. He practically forced his way on the team like some comical protagonist in a 90s Disney movie just persisting until he gets what he wants in the end. Did you see how he got hired? Dude made his own fake digital foundry video like he was already an employee.
ethomaz
Banned
Since side started to show better results they started to not give numbers and call “similar”, “not the same scenario”, etc.
I don’t know who decided that change but it happened.
For raw numbers you still have VGTech.
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ethomaz
Banned
It is all about their agenda.
They bet in a horse and while time goes that horse is more and more showing fadigue.
I wonder if the new situation was difference if they choose to hide numbers too?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You know who else hides numbersIt is all about their agenda.
I wonder if the new situation was difference if they choose to hide numbers too?
But I'm pretty sure the data also needs to get there before hand to be rendered into the frame so you need some head room.
I don't think a joke here that leaves Alex bad is a good idea here if it were true that you respect his work....
And no, I'm not the person who said what you're misrepresenting. I said that Epic (the smoll team that create Matrix demo) is more adapted to PS5 and knows the tools better and is more familiar with PS5 than with XSeries which they have not worked until today in collaboration with TC. Among other things as They participate prominently in the design of the console and develop a specific technical demo for it. You appreciate the difference ?
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