I think the game was always going to be linear. The same team worked on FFX, which is largely similar.
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Did Monolith Soft run over Square-Enix with 'X'?
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I think the game was always going to be linear. The same team worked on FFX, which is largely similar.
The only thing that looks similar to MH is when the mech cuts the monster's tail. Otherwise its nothing like monster hunter.
Well, I meant in aesthetics actually. Gameplay wise, you're right, it's closer to XII, with a better battle system.
Edit: This can also be a response to the other 2 moaning about how it's nothing like Monster Hunter too.
I only discussed the two because I saw the comparison made earlier.
I don't think it's fair to compare them, because as said before, we're comparing a completed game against dated footage of a game that has yet to be released. It's really not fair to Versus.
That said, Skyrim clearly looks better than the Versus trailer we saw. The environments in Versus simply look sparse and lifeless. They were also sparse and lifeless in the Kingdom Heart titles, so I wasn't that surprised by it. Hopefully when Versus comes out in 20XX, Square will handle that.
Well if you look at FFXII there's a huge emphasis on what MH did on ps2.
The biggest monsters certainly wouldn't look amiss in MH either.
That's a bit unfair to MH though because that's one game that is really nothing like the usual RPG you tend to get (it's not even that much of an RPG even).
About Skyrim Vs VsXIII, there's something VsXIII will always have is that it doesn't crash the ps3 when you play it and it should be a playable game too.
toastyToast
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I don't want to give Square points because they've been fucking up for a while now but, the X trailer did little for me aside from confirming its existence. It's a dude running around a regular ass field with dinosaurs in it. Show something like Eryth Sea, that was an eye catching area. Felt like I was looking at Just Cause 2
Oh, I was actually comparing XII and Xenoblade with the battle system comment, probably should have confirmed that. I wouldn't really compare the gameplay of MH with either XII or Xenoblade, as you quite rightly stated, it isn't like most jrpgs.
I know, I was commenting on the less often comparison between MH and FFXII.
Heck MH can thank its lucky star I loved FFXII cause I bought a PSP with MHFU and MH3 because of that :lol
Fair enough. I'm not actually that big of a fan of Monster Hunter, but that always came down to the fact, I always seemed to have a problem with the controls(Always seemed a bit awkward). Maybe I'll like the WiiU/3DS controls more, who knows.
Equus Bellator Apex
Junior Member
Not running over, flying over.
fuck that looks amazing
Doesn't look like years of devs either...
I'd say try MH3, if you can't stomach it then it's probably not for you.
I mean as far as control goes.
I prefer MHFU personnally.
Oh, if you count all that years since the announcement then yes it's nothing special. Then again I don't know how long they worked on that particular build.
If it wasn't an alpha thing then it's ugly as all hell, FFXIII wouldn't never look that bad IMO.
I don't know but I hate the way the grass is in that shot and the draw distance is nothign great either
If you played it on ps3 you even had the nice feature of the game literally stop playing at some times
Versus doesn't look ugly. It's just that Skyrim's environments are packed with far more detail, and thus, look a hell of a lot better than what we saw in the Versus footage.
Searching the best version of that trailer now, maybe I'll see something else.
If you played it on ps3 you even had the nice feature of the game literally stop playing at some times
Too bad I played it on a fairly capable PC
Though that doesn't stop the game crashing sometimes, even vanilla!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8
First official upload by the way, hence the top-notch quality. All previous trailers you find on Youtube were "leaked", re-uploaded material SE tried to take down at some point, seeing how some of them have been reversed to bypass copyright.
base shagohod
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Same here. The trailer tickles my imagination for two years now. My mind is blown every time I watch and re-watch the transition from the forest-wood with the first person point of view to the sandbox country-side, with the piano in the background. Also, that one-man army feel, dayum. The close-knit group of friends against the almighty mafia, one of them being a hero while the others back him in his own personal quest. Very Final Fantasy-ish, in other words. 2015 is my guess, considering that would represent ten years after the development started.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Still waiting for GILGAMESH in Versus.
Not really super relevant to this thread, but the mech is cutting off that monster's head. Not tail. you see that same sauropod looking monster earlier in the trailer. Keep seeing people mention a tail cut, when it is a head cut
I'd like to see a lot more gameplay before we decide that this is an open world game on the same scale as Skyrim. It would be awesome if this had fully explorable cities/buildings in a seamless world, but I am honestly expecting the same discrete zones and decorative cities (where most buildings are off limits) that Xenoblade. Just with bigger zone fields that incorporate more vertical elements.
E3 2013, believe!
I don't think Square Enix was run over. Not yet! X surely looks great, but we no even less about this than Versus.
Meccanical
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As I said, when they come out I'm getting both.
Why the hell would I restrict myself from possibly good JRPGs just because I want to put one on a pedestal.
That's bad for your body, your mind, your should and it makes you look stupid.
It doesn't matter how long it takes, what matters is if it's good or not.
Why the hell would I restrict myself from possibly good JRPGs just because I want to put one on a pedestal.
That's bad for your body, your mind, your should and it makes you look stupid.
It doesn't matter how long it takes, what matters is if it's good or not.
Grammatical hiccup here, thus let me ask: what do you mean, exactly? Are you saying FFXIII will always look better than Versus no matter what? Or that FFXIII already looked better than Versus even on its alpha stages, back when the first trailer had been revealed in 2006?
It's about time for Monolith to hire people that can put a quality cinematic teaser together or they'll never be able to attract a good chunk of the mainstream RPG audience. The only reason why some people are still defending Versus is because of the incredible first impression it made with its CGI trailers. Take away all the fluff, and there's nothing truly impressive about what's been shown so far, gameplay-wise.
its sad that a trailer shouldn't show gameplay over CGI to impress people.
base shagohod
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Man, I honestly hope so. I just don't have much faith these days.
Meccanical
Member
That's really frustrating yes.
They do have shit to show and nobody can tell me they can't.
They just aren't, because SE is fucking stupid.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
"The future of Final Fantasy will come soon"
Meccanical
Member
Lightning Returns is the future of Final Fantasy!
I genuinely believe the wait and all speculations it warrants in that respect are part of the marketing process.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
What a shitty future.
i don't know man, selling out on the ios and profiting off of mmo's is one thing, but not making a quality title for 6 years?
how do you show promise with closing out the last generation with the likes of ff12 and dragon quest 8 to opening this gen up with ports and rehashes, and closing out this gen with ff all the bravest and lightning returns?
EDIT: people think that versus is a AAA title that is put on a pedestal at Square? lol.,..wow.
Meccanical
Member
Well one man's trash is another man's treasure.
So someone will get enjoyment out of it.
Sure as fuck won't be me
I don't. The only thing it's doing is making people lose interest.
I'm not a marketing major but this is a pretty shitty marketing process.
People do exactly this. Remember how many said Type-0 was a Monster Hunter rip off?
Our Tabata, Who Art in Heaven
Like, you know, they compromised their integrity, their dignity, their souls. That sort of thing is what I think of when I think Square Enix and Compromise.
SnakeLinkSonic
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Hashimoto said they'd show it this year. You just have to wait.
Meccanical
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Trogdor1123
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do people actually still think VS. is happening?
Why wouldn't it?
Because it definitely seems dead in it's current form