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[SKINNER!]

Ethiopian food is literally American? I thought it was, you know, Ethiopian.

What's next, pizza is American?

Haha, I'd tread carefully given the subject matter.

The unique element of American cuisine is that because it is a melting pot of various ethnicites that have adopted the US Nationality, they can bring their native cuisine and it would still be American cuisine given that those people are US Citizens. Kinda like how the UK adopted the curry even though that's clearly a South Asian dish. Immigrants from India/Pakistan who moved and settled into the UK introduced their native dish and its now become a common UK dish that sits alongside your steak pies, cottage pies and other british cuisine dishes.

Interestingly, there will still be a distinction between US Ethiopian food and Ethiopian food from Ethiopia given the cooking methods/ingredients used. Just like how UK curry isn't identical to Indian curry.

 

[eizarus]

Y'all need to step up to the big leagues. I'm a British Pakistani, and my diet is like 80% Indian food. My ass can handle atom bombs at this rate. I've taken dumps that would make 4chan proud.

 

[elrechazado]

Ethiopian food is literally American? I thought it was, you know, Ethiopian.

What's next, pizza is American?

That like max level cultural appropriation mate...
Mexico is not the US
Salvador is not the US
Ethiopia is not the US

Did you just say italians or Mexicans or Africans aren't real American? Racism up in this thread yo.

American cuisine is an ever changing fusion of the cultures and traditions that people have brought to this country. Yeah, pizza is absolutely American in how we do it. Chicago and NY style pizza are as distinct a style as distinctly Italian varieties. Tex Mex and barbecue are fusion foods unique to a geography then exported around and given new twists.

These are all Americans making great food.

 

[YesNOnoNOYes]

I heard steaks literally swim in gravy sauce in Germany.

Spoiler

Disclaimer: I'm neither European nor American

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Haha, I'd tread carefully given the subject matter.

The unique element of American cuisine is that because it is a melting pot of various ethnicites that have adopted the US Nationality, they can bring their native cuisine and it would still be American cuisine given that those people are US Citizens. Kinda like how the UK adopted the curry even though that's clearly a South Asian dish. Immigrants from India/Pakistan who moved and settled into the UK introduced their native dish and its now become a common UK dish that sits alongside your steak pies, cottage pies and other british cuisine dishes.

Interestingly, there will still be a distinction between US Ethiopian food and Ethiopian food from Ethiopia given the cooking methods/ingredients used. Just like how UK curry isn't identical to Indian curry.

This man speaks truth.

I just like eating.

 

[DoubleYou]

This is totally how we eat bread in Norway lol. Although we usually put some sliced cucumber, bellpepper or tomatoes on them like this.

I've seen gaffers refer to this picture as a "hobo meal" etc, but that's just how we roll over here. We like simple stuff.

Haha same. I'm from the Netherlands, but every time that picture gets posted I'm like; hmmm that looks delicious. I mean, if you have good cheese why would you put anything else on there? lol

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Wait, is American food made by Americans in America, or must it originate from America and not have its roots via immigrants coming from other countries? Because the most bomb pupusas I've had are from an American kid whose parents are from El Salvador. If you're traveling to America and try those pupusas I'd call that part of our cuisine because an American is making it for you in America. That's part of what makes our country great.

On the other hand, try getting good Mexican food in Ireland.

 

[SKINNER!]

On the other hand, try getting good Mexican food in Ireland.

Try getting good food in Ireland...period.

 

[MsKrisp]

We eat all kinds of stuff here, it's a huge country. Sauce? I don't put sauce on everything lol, I've never thought of that as a thing we do. Different regions of the country have different types of food, and diversity in heavily populated areas leads to a lot of great variety.

I think our biggest common trends, at least in restaurants, are the portion sizes are too big (most of us can't eat that much! why can't I get small plates at reasonable prices!) as well as too much fat and sodium in foods prepared outside of home. Healthier snacks like fruit cups are substantially more expensive than options like fries, and they're usually crap. Stuff like that frustrates me.

I have no idea how we compare to Europe's eating experiences, but it also seems silly to generalize Europe's food rather than making a comparison to a specific country or culture.

 

[elrechazado]

Try getting good food in Ireland...period.

By the logic in this thread, all they have to eat in Ireland is haggis because I saw that on TV.

 

[_Ryo_]

UK: Scones are not fucking biscuits. They are not. Okay?

Japan: Mayo, corn, or fish does not belong on pizza. マヨネーズ抜きでおねがいします

That is all.

 

[MistakenMobius]

Did you just say italians or Mexicans or Africans aren't real American? Racism up in this thread yo.

American cuisine is an ever changing fusion of the cultures and traditions that people have brought to this country. Yeah, pizza is absolutely American in how we do it. Chicago and NY style pizza are as distinct a style as distinctly Italian varieties. Tex Mex and barbecue are fusion foods unique to a geography then exported around and given new twists.

These are all Americans making great food.

An American making food isn't making American food.
When I'm doing a tatziki, I'm not making Luxembourg Tatziki, i am still making Greek food.
The very same if a Greek makes bouchée a la reine, bouchée à la reine doesn't become Greek food.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Try getting good food in Ireland...period.

All my European fam loves El Pollo Loco, which is a local marinated chicken place based on latin flavors.

I so want the capital to open a franchise in multiple countries in Europe.

 

[Shake Appeal]

American food generally is heavier/fattier, especially at the cheaper end. But there's such a diversity of food options, you shouldn't have to eat anything you don't enjoy. Even expensive groceries and restaurants (which is where you should be going to get food like home) are cheaper than in Europe.

 

[Tacitus_]

Haha same. I'm from the Netherlands, but every time that picture gets posted I'm like; hmmm that looks delicious. I mean, if you have good cheese why would you put anything else on there? lol

From what I've seen here, it's not a proper sandwich until there's more toppings than bread in it. No appreciation for a simple sandwich as a side dish at all.

 

[Alx]

French bread can have sugar AND EGGS.

Hm, nope. As soon as you add such ingredients to your dough, the product is classified as pastry and not bread any more. French law is veeeeery strict about what you're allowed to call bread. Bread is flour, water, yeast and salt. And sometimes some additional grains.

 

[SKINNER!]

Hm, nope. As soon as you add such ingredients to your dough, the product is classified as pastry and not bread any more. Bread is flour, water, yeast and salt. And sometimes some additional grains.

My man!!!!

 

[Snowybreak]

From what I've seen here, it's not a proper sandwich until there's more toppings than bread in it. No appreciation for a simple sandwich as a side dish at all.

Fucking Christ. This same fucking line of thought has been played out and explained a million times on this board. The Nordic interpretation of a sandwich is inherently different from the American interpretation. A sandwich here is representative of a meal, not a snack or a side dish.

 

[MistakenMobius]

Hm, nope. As soon as you add such ingredients to your dough, the product is classified as pastry and not bread any more. French law is veeeeery strict about what you're allowed to call bread. Bread is flour, water, yeast and salt. And sometimes some additional grains.

What about Cramique that you did in the north?
In Belgium it's a Pain Brioché.

 

[RoninChaos]

Reese's buttercups are vile shit no matter where you come from.

Come at me.

You godless heathen.

 

[SKINNER!]

A sandwich here is representative of a meal, not a snack or a side dish.

I dunno man. I've seen my fair share of scooby snacks that look like a 3 course meal.

 

[darkhunger]

An American making food isn't making American food.
When I'm doing a tatziki, I'm not making Luxembourg Tatziki, i am still making Greek food.
The very same if a Greek makes bouchée a la reine, bouchée à la reine doesn't become Greek food.

Really depends on how much variance you have on the food itself, as well as association. Hamburgers originated in Germany but no one would consider a McDonalds hamburger German food.

I agree that Ethiopian food or El Salvadoran food sold in the US aren't "American cuisine" per se but that really isn't what this topic is about either, it's about the type of food available in the US vs Europe.

 

[Summer Haze]

Haha same. I'm from the Netherlands, but every time that picture gets posted I'm like; hmmm that looks delicious. I mean, if you have good cheese why would you put anything else on there? lol

England here, I always think the same thing, I grew up on sandwiches like those haha. Playing outside all day, hunger strikes, run inside and quickly whip up a cheese sandwich. Nothing like some good sourdough with thick, sharp cheddar slices and a glass of milk.

 

[Westbahnhof]

Did you just say italians or Mexicans or Africans aren't real American? Racism up in this thread yo.

American cuisine is an ever changing fusion of the cultures and traditions that people have brought to this country. Yeah, pizza is absolutely American in how we do it. Chicago and NY style pizza are as distinct a style as distinctly Italian varieties. Tex Mex and barbecue are fusion foods unique to a geography then exported around and given new twists.

These are all Americans making great food.

Of course. But to call it something like "Ethiopian food" American food erases the origin of the dish, and that seems iffy to me.
Call it an American twist, whatever, but don't (even jokingly) call me racist for wanting to give credit to the places the culture came from, imo.

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

Bread with 1 slice of cheese and 1 slice of ham toasted is amazing.

Americans call it a struggle sandwich because it isn't loaded with half a pigs worth of ham and a cheese wheel.

The portion sizes over there are insane. Can never finish meals ever

I'm kinda shocked you're not American.

 

[Snowybreak]

I dunno man. I've seen my fair share of scooby snacks that look like a 3 course meal.

What?

 

[Aiii]

Had some great food in American restaurants, it was pretty much the same as the food in Europe. Especially when it was region-specific food. I did not notice any difference in Italian cuisine between the US and Europe, for instance (bar Italy itself, of course). Just all in all great stuff, not a single issue found there.

That said, the mass-market food from supermarkets was significantly worse in the US. Not so much in taste (with the exception of cheese, which was terrible in the US, sorry to say), but mostly in what was in it, I'm sure places like Whole Foods are better, but regular supermarkets were filled with stuff that's essentially pure death in a bag/bottle. EU is definitely way ahead on that front.

Also, what's up with the size and color of your vegetables? I don't want to know what kind of stuff you use to make your tomatoes, for example, so huge and perfectly red. Seems unnecessary as it didn't seem to do anything for the taste.

 

[GoldenCrow]

Only generalised comment I can think of a brit travelling to the States is that there is too much salt and sugar in almost everything. Less stodge foods in the US than there is in the UK at cheap and quick establishments, both still pretty stodgy but there will usually be something to bring a different dimension to the texture or flavour but it is also super sweet and salty but not the good quality sugar and salt it is the nasty cheap taste from overly processed food.

 

[Alx]

What about Cramique that you did in the north?
In Belgium it's a Pain Brioché.

Brioche isn't considered as bread (as a matter of fact the infamous "let them eat cake" that Marie-Antoinette didn't say was originally "qu'ils mangent de la brioche"). And you wouldn't eat it the same way as bread.
Even things with the bread name in it, like "pain au chocolat" or "pain au lait" aren't bread, they're "viennoiseries". (fun fact, the original baguette was shaped that way to masquerade as a viennoiserie and not bread, since the tax was lower on those).

 

[MsKrisp]

An American making food isn't making American food.
When I'm doing a tatziki, I'm not making Luxembourg Tatziki, i am still making Greek food.
The very same if a Greek makes bouchée a la reine, bouchée à la reine doesn't become Greek food.

I think you're misunderstanding a bit. A common Chinese, Mexican, etc restaurant in America is generally making an American version of that cuisine. Some of the foods end up being created in America, and differs from "authentic" cuisine (while you can still find places that cater to those authentic tastes). Mexican food in America is largely Texmex, which differs from Mexican food.

For example, if I go to a Chinese restaurant up the street, they tend to make the food with more meat and less vegetables than my mom would make at home. There will be foods created in America on the menu, such as General Tso's chicken and the fortune cookie you get at the end is also created in America. But I can also go to a restaurant that has more traditional foods, because they specifically serve authentic dishes. There are restaurants here that specialize in foods from specific regions of China, as well as Taiwan, and Hong Kong that has none of the stuff the average American would recognize as Chinese food as they know it.

And yes, our pizza is American. It's not the same as Italian pizza; and our pizza style also varies by region.

 

[Shadowhelper]

This is a fact.

The main difference is European food sucks and American food is great. By this I mean comparing like for like.

A big American city jus has better food than any big European city. It's just a cold stone fact.

The sandwiches in Europe are fucking crap, DISGUSTING. Most of the food in spain is disgusting, or just tons of American rip off food.

Its either boring European cusine, and now mostly just ripping off American trends and cuisine. The best place to eat in Europe is London or to a lesser extent Paris. London has waaaaay more variety, but still NYC is far ahead of London. You can get pretty much anything in London but its still harder and less common to get food as in say NYC.

Eating in NYC is basically heaven. Pizza in NYC, NYC style is so much better than any pizza you can get anywhere in Italy.

Try getting good food in Ireland...period.

Yes I have been to work in Ireland, outside of Dublin, in small town like Shannon on Crick. Food was pretty poor.

 

[SKINNER!]

Brioche isn't considered as bread (as a matter of fact the infamous "let them eat cake" that Marie-Antoinette didn't say was originally "qu'ils mangent de la brioche"). And you wouldn't eat it the same way as bread.
Even things with the bread name in it, like "pain au chocolat" or "pain au lait" aren't bread, they're "viennoiseries". (fun fact, the original baguette was shaped that way to masquerade as a viennoiserie and not bread, since the tax was lower on those).

Fascinating stuff. thanks for sharing

 

[SKINNER!]

This is a fact.

The main difference is European food sucks and American food is great. By this I mean comparing like for like.

A big American city jus has better food than any big European city. It's just a cold stone fact.

The sandwiches in Europe are fucking crap, DISGUSTING. Most of the food in spain is disgusting, or just tons of American rip off food.

Its either boring European cusine, and now mostly just ripping off American trends and cuisine. The best place to eat in Europe is London or to a lesser extent Paris. London has waaaaay more variety, but still NYC is far ahead of London. You can get pretty much anything in London but its still harder and less common to get food as in say NYC.

Eating in NYC is basically heaven.

This is clearly a case of "Grass is greener". Most of the food in Spain is disgusting??? NYC style is so much better than any pizza you can get anywhere in Italy??? What? Really?! There's plenty of garbage tourist trap food in Paris and London. And comparing NYC pizza to Italian pizza? wow.

 

[Fritz]

I have two impressions regarding American food culture:

They love their meals rich. I get this impression from gaf. The food porn fellow us Gaffers indulge in is just obscene to me. On the other hand the ridicule for the strugglewich is even more telling. Yes, I am sure there is a huge variety of styles available in the US but it seems every world cuisine is spun into a sensoric blob


The commodities are shit. Agricultural mass production and high levels of processing, gmo, high fructose corn syrup etc. How can restaurants replicate genuine foreign dishes without the ingredients. But this is basically the same for everyone, for good or bad.

 

[Acidote]

This is a fact.

The main difference is European food sucks and American food is great. By this I mean comparing like for like.

A big American city jus has better food than any big European city. It's just a cold stone fact.

The sandwiches in Europe are fucking crap, DISGUSTING. Most of the food in spain is disgusting, or just tons of American rip off food.

wait

Its either boring European cusine, and now mostly just ripping off American trends and cuisine. The best place to eat in Europe is London or to a lesser extent Paris. London has waaaaay more variety, but still NYC is far ahead of London. You can get pretty much anything in London but its still harder and less common to get food as in say NYC.

Eating in NYC is basically heaven. Pizza in NYC, NYC style is so much better than any pizza you can get anywhere in Italy.

what

 

[DocSeuss]

The "can I get eat food at the same quality as Europe in America" question really rubs me the wrong way, because, like... there's a crapload of incredible American food that anyone would be lucky to eat. Amish restaurants are phenomenal. There's a tiny hole-in-the-wall Malaysian place I love to visit because it's as authentic as it gets (they're an immigrant family and they're awesome and I love them all).

Tons of amazing food here in the US. Avoid Texas BBQ, obviously. They think meat doesn't 'need' sauce, but that's like saying fries don't 'need' to be dipped in anything. True but morally wrong.

An American I know thought that this:

was chocolate bread.

I am sure that everything can be acquired in the US, but with people like the guy I mentioned existing, terrible impressions of "stupid limited americans, eating their garbage" will spread.

Edit:
ALSO, you guys sell meat for human consumption that you'd never be able to sell here AFAIK

I don't know any American who would look at that and go "ah, that's chocolate bread."

Even Rye's darker.

Pizza in NYC, NYC style is so much better than any pizza you can get anywhere in Italy.

I've never eaten pizza in Italy, so I can't be certain, but New York pizza is literally the bottom tier of America's pizza options. And I have eaten home made gluten-free pizza with vegan "cheese."

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

I have two impressions regarding American food culture:

They love their meals rich. I get this impression from gaf. The food porn fellow us Gaffers indulge in is just obscene to me. On the other hand the ridicule for the strugglewich is even more telling. Yes, I am sure there is a huge variety of styles available in the US but it seems every world cuisine is spun into a sensoric blob


The commodities are shit. Agricultural mass production and high levels of processing, gmo, high fructose corn syrup etc. How can restaurants replicate genuine foreign dishes without the ingredients. But this is basically the same for everyone, for good or bad.

Uh, Europe also uses GMOs.

Spain, especially.

 

[Westbahnhof]

I think you're misunderstanding a bit. A common Chinese, Mexican, etc restaurant in America is generally making an American version of that cuisine. Some of the foods end up being created in America, and differs from "authentic" cuisine (while you can still find places that cater to those authentic tastes). Mexican food in America is largely Texmex, which differs from Mexican food.

For example, if I go to a Chinese restaurant up the street, they tend to make the food with more meat and less vegetables than my mom would make at home. There will be foods created in America on the menu, such as General Tso's chicken and the fortune cookie you get at the end is also created in America. But I can also go to a restaurant that has more traditional foods, because they specifically serve authentic dishes. There are restaurants here that specialize in foods from specific regions of China, as well as Taiwan, and Hong Kong that has none of the stuff the average American would recognize as Chinese food as they know it.

And yes, our pizza is American. It's not the same as Italian pizza; and our pizza style also varies by region.

It's all down to semantics, but I still gotta disagree.
Assuming the story about it originating in an Indian restaurant in Scotland are true, would you call Tikka Masala a Scottish dish?
Everyone calls it Indian because it is so close to Indian food, a local variation.
Considering American pizza:
I'd say NY style pizza is still Italian food.
I'd say deep dish is American.
Maybe that clears up where I'm coming from.

This is a fact.

The main difference is European food sucks and American food is great. By this I mean comparing like for like.

A big American city jus has better food than any big European city. It's just a cold stone fact.

The sandwiches in Europe are fucking crap, DISGUSTING. Most of the food in spain is disgusting, or just tons of American rip off food.

Its either boring European cusine, and now mostly just ripping off American trends and cuisine. The best place to eat in Europe is London or to a lesser extent Paris. London has waaaaay more variety, but still NYC is far ahead of London. You can get pretty much anything in London but its still harder and less common to get food as in say NYC.

Eating in NYC is basically heaven. Pizza in NYC, NYC style is so much better than any pizza you can get anywhere in Italy.

I really want you to be trolling. Especially your last sentence. What the fuck.
And the part about Spain. W h a t

I don't know any American who would look at that and go "ah, that's chocolate bread."

Even Rye's darker.

Never underestimate how ignorant people can be.

 

[daviyoung]

A big American city jus has better food than any big European city. It's just a cold stone fact.

Stone cold is how I would describe most of the food I tried in America

I also don't appreciate you dragging London into your quagmire of lunacy, I don't want it associated with your tastebuds

 

[Funky Papa]

Most of the food in spain is disgusting

Stop eating from the floor of gas stations' toilets.

 

[elrechazado]

I have two impressions regarding American food culture:

They love their meals rich. I get this impression from gaf. The food porn fellow us Gaffers indulge in is just obscene to me. On the other hand the ridicule for the strugglewich is even more telling. Yes, I am sure there is a huge variety of styles available in the US but it seems every world cuisine is spun into a sensoric blob


The commodities are shit. Agricultural mass production and high levels of processing, gmo, high fructose corn syrup etc. How can restaurants replicate genuine foreign dishes without the ingredients. But this is basically the same for everyone, for good or bad.

Second paragraph is the kind of ignorance that's as bad as that guy's "Spain has crap food" hot take. Do you realize how monumentally wrong you are about ingredients and agriculture options in the US?? The existence of large scale agriculture doesn't mean we don't have amazing variety of the highest quality of product available in the world. Stop the ignorance.

 

[ChryZ]

The only difference is ranch dressing, everything else is samey.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Stop eating from the floor of gas stations' toilets.

...

like how can this happen?

 

[nded]

Well damn, Europe. If y'all gonna talk shit like that we'll just take back all the tomatoes, avocados, chocolate and vanilla. Keep the potatoes though.

 

[Famassu]

By the logic in this thread, all they have to eat in Ireland is haggis because I saw that on TV.

I don't think you understand what this thread is about. Of course one can get good quality shit if they go to restaurants other than McDonald's and you have your own specialty shops that sell better quality breads, beer, chocolate, whatever. You can be all "don't go to Walmart and don't buy their low quality shit", but the point is that even in our Walmart equivalents, most products aren't total shit and what is "low quality" in our Walmart equivalents is still noticeably better than your low quality stuff. Or at least could be argued to be.

 

[MsKrisp]

I have two impressions regarding American food culture:

They love their meals rich. I get this impression from gaf. The food porn fellow us Gaffers indulge in is just obscene to me. On the other hand the ridicule for the strugglewich is even more telling. Yes, I am sure there is a huge variety of styles available in the US but it seems every world cuisine is spun into a sensoric blob

The commodities are shit. Agricultural mass production and high levels of processing, gmo, high fructose corn syrup etc. How can restaurants replicate genuine foreign dishes without the ingredients. But this is basically the same for everyone, for good or bad.

??? At the local Asian store I can get all kinds of ingredients not available in the regular stores ??? (and in areas with a lot of diversity the chain supermarkets carry quite a bit of variety too)

Immigrant populations create the demand; if it's not available in America we import it. It's getting better and better, things that weren't widely available before are getting really easy to find now. The demand also creates the need to produce it here in the states.

It's all down to semantics, but I still gotta disagree.
Assuming the story about it originating in an Indian restaurant in Scotland are true, would you call Tikka Masala a Scottish dish?
Everyone calls it Indian because it is so close to Indian food, a local variation.
Considering American pizza:
I'd say NY style pizza is still Italian food.
I'd say deep dish is American.
Maybe that clears up where I'm coming from.

True. When I'm making American style Chinese food in my kitchen, I'm still going to call it Chinese food. (My mom might come in to tell me it's not real Chinese food). I'm not going to call my noodles American food, but recognize that it's an American style of it.

 

[shnurgleton]

I agree with my fellow Americans - quality food is everywhere in America if you make the effort to find it. However, having traveled to Europe and Korea/Japan, I think there is a distinct difference in quality of produce. In the US it's REALLY hard to get the kind of attractive, flavorful fruits and vegetables that are everywhere in Europe. I blame supermarkets.

 

[Funky Papa]

Uneducated guess, but I think the problem with American fresh food (either at tablecloth restaurants or home) is that high quality produce is expensive* and relatively more difficult to come by unless you live in a major urban area or close to the point of origin. You can have high quality, well rippened pink tomatoes in the States, but you are going to pay a pretty penny for them. And that affects both the price of the food and the availability of higher quality slow dishes at homes and restaurants.

For what is worth, some of the finest fish I've ever had was at a restaurant in fuggin Las Vegas of all places. Drinks were also like $20 and the waitress turned my table into a hustle.

As noted over IronGAF, there are huge price differences of produce across the world, with some posters saying that they couldn't find/afford certain ingredients and others being shocked at how expensive/cheap certain items are in other countries. I've been collecting the receipts from my latests trips to the market and I intend to make a thread at some point so we can share and compare. It'll be interesting, if not fun.


*high quality produce is also absurdly expensive in Northern Europe, but struggle sandwich and whatever.

 

[Aggie CMD]

US born and raised, but I am also half-Spaniard (mother's side all still lives in Spain) and I would spend the summer months in Spain every year growing up.

Food is definitely different and cultural eating preferences are also night and day. My personal experience is also skewed by comparing mostly US metropolitan areas with a small Spanish town of ~800 residents.

I always thought the way you bought a chicken was interesting. In the US, you go to the grocery store and you can buy a "whole" chicken which is only the main body or just wings, or just thighs, or pre-cut breasts. In Spain, you go to the butcher shop and you actually get whole chicken minus feathers. I remember watching my Abuela cut off the head, feet, and pull out the guts. Brutal lady In Spain, a fruit truck would come around a couple of times a week and you'd buy fruit out the back. That was cool. Food in train stations and airports universally are terrible. Restaurants per capita are way lower and food variety also takes a hit.

Wine and bread all day, everyday. Candy shops are the best in Europe.

I wouldn't say I prefer one over the other. They are just different. You can eat healthy or terribly in either place. What you eat is personal choice.

 

[Westbahnhof]

This seems like an okay place to ask Americans, as it's not worth a thread:
Do any of you know Leberkäse? Some wunderbarer Leberkas?
Does it exist in the US? Could one get it? If so, how is it?