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[reptilescorpio]

Meanwhile, the high setting utilises 2.8GB to 3GB, while medium is designed for the majority of gaming GPUs out there, occupying around 1.8GB of video RAM.

Mother of god!

Where can I download some RAM for my 1GB 460? :/

Definitely 4GB RAM on every GPU moving forward. Seems I need to start looking at picking up a 970 sooner rather than later.

 

[poopninjamvc3mk]

I have measly 2 GB R9 270 (I still love it so). With the computer I built last December. I was on a budget and decided I could deal with a mid tier PC that could play games on high or max sometimes. I have no interest in Shadows of Mordor but if I did I guess I would be rocking medium or high with some tweaks.

Its odd though a lot of my favorite games aren't too demanding...yet.

Even then though I rarely play on Ultra as I can't tell the difference half the time with the preset below it.

Game ran fine when I tested it on my r9 270 all high settings. Didn't get to test ultra,

Also all those requirements but the game doesn't even look that good.

 

[Renekton]

Bookmarking this for the "my 770 2GB smokes PS4" gaffers

if just to get the usual "this game is poorly optimized" blanket retort.

 

[Skyzard]

I think it might depend on different areas making use of Ultra textures more than others.

Heard it is running well on a 780ti so I'm downloading it to test out.

 

[Inuhanyou]

That isn't unusual. Framebuffer and graphical assets take up most of the RAM for most games. See the KZSF or ISS memory breakdowns.

Really!? I wonder how the PS4 will perform once Sony actually optimizes the OS and gives back a portion of that reservation. 6 gigs max would not be too bad if all the game logic isnt even a big fraction of what uses up the memory space.

 

[Renekton]

Really!? I wonder how the PS4 will perform once Sony actually optimizes the OS and gives back a portion of that reservation. 6 gigs max would not be too bad if all the game logic isnt even a big fraction of what uses up the memory space.

I'm guessing it might be bandwidth-limited, ROP-limited or shader-limited by then.

 

[10k]

By Richard Leadbetter Published 01/10/2014

Prognosticator!!


I think this game is the one that will mark my transition fully back into consoles.

Kinda don't have the money or want to upgrade my PC any longer and the exclusives there aren't enough to pull me to do so.

I thought I was the only one. PS4 versions of games are starting to hit the 1080p30+ mark with high PC textures and that's pretty close to what my rig runs. It's cheaper in the long run, no upgrading and the ability to trade in games.

*throws out GTX 780*
I thought purchasing a 3GB card in May 2013 for $650 would allow me to max out all PS4/XB1 games at 1080p60

 

[mugurumakensei]

*throws out GTX 780*
I thought purchasing a 3GB card in May 2013 for $650 would allow me to max out all PS4/XB1 games at 1080p60

uh, the game runs at 60fps at better than console settings on a 780 unless there is a joke im missing?

 

[REV 09]

uh, the game runs at 60fps at better than console settings on a 780 unless there is a joke im missing?

True, except the texture quality isn't quite up to the consoles. Overall, it's still probably better on a high-end pc. I guess i'll need to upgrade my gpu now though...not sure if i should go with a 970 4gb or wait for something w/ 6gb later on.

 

[mugurumakensei]

True, except the texture quality isn't quite up to the consoles. Overall, it's still probably better on a high-end pc. I guess i'll need to upgrade my gpu now though...not sure if i should go with a 970 4gb or wait for something w/ 6gb later on.

actually on a 780 3GB, the texture quality would match consoles while having effects the consoles dont have while also running at 60fps.

 

[roMonster]

Vram The Destroyer

 

[Auto-Reply]

really

Also looked on the ground textures, the other pics... There's literally no difference between those 4 versions.

I hope this is somehow an error on df's part, it will be a pretty boring comparison in the face off article if all settings look the same.

 

[Yasae]

A lot of those textures look like shit at every setting.

 

[ambar_hitman]

Medium looks terrible compared to high though.

 

[Cyborg]

We're still looking at the console builds, but an initial comparison with PS4 suggests that it sits alongside the PC's high quality setting.

This is good news for PS4, right?

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

I see no difference between Ultra and high.

Am I missing something?

 

[Jack cw]

I see no difference between Ultra and high.

Am I missing something?

Slightly better texture filtering, but the overall quality and resolution, detail are pretty much identical.

EDIT: Apparently PS4 has eitehr some motion blur or some kind of blurry AA applied to it.

 

[Seanspeed]

Bookmarking this for the "my 770 2GB smokes PS4" gaffers

if just to get the usual "this game is poorly optimized" blanket retort.

A 2GB 770 can not only achieve the same graphics fidelity as the consoles(2GB cards will run High textures), but will also run it faster than consoles.

 

[securitypigeon]

I've been running this on a 2GB 760 on High and it's been fine, between 50-60 throughout.

 

[KyleCross]

We're still looking at the console builds, but an initial comparison with PS4 suggests that it sits alongside the PC's high quality setting.

Really glad I bought this on PS4.

 

[SwiftDeath]

I'm kind of curious to see how the XB1 version turned out looking at those Vram requirements.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

We're still looking at the console builds, but an initial comparison with PS4 suggests that it sits alongside the PC's high quality setting.

This is good news for PS4, right?

Kind of? They're talking about texture quality, not all settings in general. So you'll have to wait for more info.

 

[KingSnake]

Oh, god, it's that discussion again. This time without "on PS4 is running at 60fps".

It makes me want to buy this game sooner than I intent to do, just to see how it's running on my 780. But the quality of the textures just holds me back, as it doesn't seem to be anything spectacular.

 

[CyanideFuse]

The Eurogamer comments thread is making my head hurt. Some of the comments are comedy gold though. Someone has even weighed in with the 30fps is more cinematic argument.

It will be interesting to read Digital Foundry's take on all this just to see what effects / settings are missing / set to medium/high/ultra on the consoles

Spoiler

and of course the frame rate.

Everyone seems so wrapped up in the textures argument when there are so many other facets to the game's appearance.

I must admit this game has swayed me a touch closer to a 970 but I want to see what cards may appear down the line with 8GB VRAM.

 

[Seanspeed]

Oh, god, it's that discussion again. This time without "on PS4 is running at 60fps".

It makes me want to buy this game quicker than I intent to do, just to see how it's running on my 780. But the quality of the textures just holds me back, as it doesn't seem to be anything spectacular.

Buy this game because you think it looks fun, as its not a graphics showcase by any means.

 

[KingSnake]

Buy this game because you think it looks fun, because its not a graphics showcase by any means.

As I said, it's not about buying it or not, I'm mildly interested in it so I will buy it at some point, it was just about buying it sooner rather than later.

 

[Seanspeed]

As I said, it's not about buying it or not, I'm mildly interested in it so I will buy it at some point, it was just about buying it sooner rather than later.

Oh right, my bad.

Your 780 should do mostly Ultra with maybe a few settings dropped to High at 1080p/60fps.

 

[Prophet Steve]

Bookmarking this for the "my 770 2GB smokes PS4" gaffers

if just to get the usual "this game is poorly optimized" blanket retort.

But it does. I'll pick the option of higher framerates and better quality options except for texture quality over the option of lower framerates and worse quality options except for texture quality.

I thought I was the only one. PS4 versions of games are starting to hit the 1080p30+ mark with high PC textures and that's pretty close to what my rig runs. It's cheaper in the long run, no upgrading and the ability to trade in games.

*throws out GTX 780*
I thought purchasing a 3GB card in May 2013 for $650 would allow me to max out all PS4/XB1 games at 1080p60

I am going to assume the rest of the options are also high. Your 780 should get a lot better result than 30 FPS on high.

And just for all the people complaining about the little differences, or before people complain about how it could be so much better or why they must put such a demanding option in the game and that sort of stuff:

"They are on monster PCs making the highest possible quality stuff and then we find ways to optimise it, to fit onto next-gen, to fit onto PCs at high-end specs. Then obviously there's going to be that boundary where our monster development PCs are running it OK - but why not give people the option to crank it up? It makes sense to get it out into the world there - we have it, we built it that way to look as good as possible. You might as well, right?"

 

[Inuhanyou]

I'm guessing it might be bandwidth-limited, ROP-limited or shader-limited by then.

I wonder how much ram could feasibly be used, like the limit before there would be no point in giving back anymore. Surely there's still room for growth now even if it'll hit a wall at some point

 

[Seanspeed]

But it does. I'll pick the option of higher framerates and better quality options except for texture quality over the option of lower framerates and worse quality options except for texture quality.

Doesn't have to compromise on texture quality, either. A 2GB 770 will run High Textures.

 

[CyanideFuse]

Doesn't have to compromise on texture quality, either. A 2GB 770 will run High Textures.

Sorry if this has been asked a million times and answered equally so:

Do you need the HD pack for high or is it just ultra textures? I swear I read someone saying there was a difference between high without the pack and high with the pack.

 

[KojiKnight]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times and answered equally so:

Do you need the HD pack for high or is it just ultra textures? I swear I read someone saying there was a difference between high without the pack and high with the pack.

High is part of the default game, ultra is separate.

 

[Seanspeed]

Sorry if this has been asked a million times and answered equally so:

Do you need the HD pack for high or is it just ultra textures? I swear I read someone saying there was a difference between high without the pack and high with the pack.

HD pack is Ultra textures. But Ultra textures don't replace *all* the textures in the game or anything. So its basically just adding some better textures here and there, leading to a mix of High and these Ultra textures.

 

[Prophet Steve]

Doesn't have to compromise on texture quality, either. A 2GB 770 will run High Textures.

Oh, I thought some people had trouble with that. Even so you are very likely to run into trouble with that with different games eventually.

Sorry if this has been asked a million times and answered equally so:

Do you need the HD pack for high or is it just ultra textures? I swear I read someone saying there was a difference between high without the pack and high with the pack.

Nope, HD pack is only needed for ultra textures. The only thing that is different is that if you run ultra without having the pack installed, it will use the high textures.

 

[Windom Earle]

Doesn't have to compromise on texture quality, either. A 2GB 770 will run High Textures.

Only if you compromise on other settings I would think... High textures definitely need more than 2gb, otherwise stutter city.

 

[Seanspeed]

Oh, I thought some people had trouble with that. Even so you are very likely to run into trouble with that with different games eventually.

Only if you compromise on other settings I would think... High textures definitely need more than 2gb, otherwise stutter city.

On-paper. People aren't having that trouble apparently. Plenty of people with 2GB cards saying they are running High textures just fine in the PC performance thread.

4GB cards are running Ultra textures, too.

 

[CerebralTiger]

A 2GB 770 will run High Textures.

But will it do so without any stuttering?

 

[Seanspeed]

But will it do so without any stuttering?

Nobody is reporting any problems with stuttering in the PC performance thread. Seems to be fine.

 

[Prophet Steve]

On-paper. People aren't having that trouble apparently. Plenty of people with 2GB cards saying they are running High textures just fine in the PC performance thread.

4GB cards are running Ultra textures, too.

It's the few that do seem to have trouble that is bothering me, although that seems less the case with ultra on 4GB. A too low VRAM amount also won't really result in a noticeable impact on average framerate, so I am a bit hesitant to believe it when people say they run it well.

I'll believe that there are people that don't have trouble with it, but if there are people that have trouble with stuttering I wouldn't say that 2GB for high is enough.

 

[Klyka]

I got a 2GB 770 and I run high textures and have no stutter *shrug*

 

[UnrealEck]

Bookmarking this for the "my 770 2GB smokes PS4" gaffers

It does in Shadows of Mordor. And any other game I can think of.

But will it do so without any stuttering?

Yes.
I think I'll get a quick video together because I have a feeling people will take DF's word as gospel as usual.

 

[Seanspeed]

It's the few that do seem to have trouble that is bothering me, although that seems less the case with ultra on 4GB. A too low VRAM amount also won't really result in a noticeable impact on average framerate, so I am a bit hesitant to believe it when people say they run it well.

I'll believe that there are people that don't have trouble with it, but if there are people that have trouble with stuttering I wouldn't say that 2GB for high is enough.

It seems that some of the stuttering reports were unrelated to the texture settings after people reported resolving the issue without lowering that setting. I don't know about the rest.

 

[Tidus_Great]

ps4 master race

 

[Windom Earle]

People will say a lot, but I am definitely seeing stuttering on Ultra on my 970. Got no tolerance for it so I am sticking to high where everything is perfect.

ps4 master race

30fps no ultra peasants.

 

[GhostTrick]

So... what was supposed to be on horrible port seems to be running at high settings, in the mid 40s fps on a 750ti and a quad core AMD CPU...

To think that some people said it was unoptimized and that because of PS4, you would need 8GB of VRAM for parity...

 

[CerebralTiger]

Nobody is reporting any problems with stuttering in the PC performance thread. Seems to be fine.

It may not stutter enough for people to notice and mention it in their personal accounts. That doesn't necessarily imply that it's not there at all.

 

[Inuhanyou]

ps4 master race

Don't people get banned for this kind of thing? I'd rather this thread stay strictly about the game's performance please

 

[pixlexic]

The funny thing is the jump from medium textures to ultra isn't that big at all.

But the jump in the others settings is much more significant.

 

[Seanspeed]

It may not stutter enough for people to notice and mention it in their personal accounts. That doesn't necessarily imply that it's not there at all.

True. It might just be a personal sensitivity thing. Definitely worth a shot, though.

 

[JaseC]

Don't people get banned for this kind of thing? I'd rather this thread stay strictly about the game's performance please

The term is actively discouraged but it's only bannable if used derisively. E.g. If you built a gaming PC for the first time and made a thread titled "Joined the PC master race! Recommend me some games" you wouldn't cop a ban (instead the thread title would be altered), but if you entered this thread and said something like "lol at the PC gamers now wallowing in their faux superiority hahaha who's the master race now" then you're liable to find yourself in the sin bin.