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Digital Foundry Battlefield 3 face off

OldJadedGamer said:
The person you quoted said nothing about the 4 gig. Has anyone test it on a USB stick?.
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Not that I'm aware. Don't have the game myself to test this. Basing it on the DF article above and reports from people with 4GB 360s. He mentioned the size being adequate for the 4GB and then that it can also be installed on a USB which kind of makes me think that he wasn't aware of the issue.
AppleSmack said:
aahahahaah. I would't trust Microsoft Word on a 200 dollar PC.
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Eh, I didn't say it could run on a $200 PC now did I?
 
Synless said:
Not that I'm saying your wrong, but wouldn't their capture card have the same results on both versions if that were the case?
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Nope. There are the same shots in two different analysis where there was no "motion blur" on either version.
 
Theonik said:
It can't really run on a $200 console either. Not with HD textures at least :P
The textures won't install on a 4GB 360.
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It still runs. I can still play the game on a $200 console. Isn't the Windows operating system alone more than half the price of a PS3? Until you can build a PC for the same price as the consoles that can play the game it is pointless to compare them.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
It still runs. I can still play the game on a $200 console. Isn't the Windows operating system alone more than half the price of a PS3? Until you can build a PC for the same price as the consoles that can play the game it is pointless to compare them.
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It's pointless anyway you slice it because it's always a forgone conclusion.
 
Postman said:
Isn't DF a Eurogamer deal? Eurogamer has been extremely biased this gen towards the PS3. I can see that and I am mainly a PC gamer.
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One recent DF face off that sounded a little dodgy, was for Driver SF. They stated that the PS3 version has a better active frame rate (heavy scenes) but the Xbox version has better AA, better texture filtering, less tearing and a better passive frame rate. The PlayStation version was then the one they recommended. I loaded both demo's up and flicked between, and came to the conclusion that the better IQ, less tearing and better general frame rate of the Xbox version far outweighed the occasional instance of heavier slowdown, negated in the Playstation version.

But generally I find them to be very informative, and mostly impartial.
 
ITT, DF's Richard Leadbetter is accused of being a Sony fanboy.

OldJadedGamer said:
Isn't the Windows operating system alone more than half the price of a PS3?
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Hypothetically, that would depend on one actually paying for Windows. Or so I've heard.
 
After watching the video, both versions have their moments. Some times the 360 version is screen-tearing more, others it's the PS3 version tearing. Everything is pretty identical.

I don't like the ugly halo around the light here in the 360 version -- it's the same ugly crap on the flashlights in multiplayer.


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Looks like the console versions are on par graphically/performance-wise and the big thing should be controller preference and where your friends are.
 
I just did a test and can confirm that the HD texture pack cannot install to a USB stick.

BritBloke916 said:
Hypothetically, that would depend on one actually paying for Windows. Or so I've heard.
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How else would you get it if you were building a PC from scratch?
 
I like the reactions when the PS3 version is either as good or maybe just slightly better. Never without fail.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
How else would you get it if you were building a PC from scratch?
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Hypothetically, if your company (or that of someone you knew) happened to pay the tiny annual fee required to be a member of the Microsoft Developer's Network, legit licence keys and official MS download links might be very easy to come by indeed.

Edit: Anyway, this is OT so I'll shut up.
 
Kermit The Frog said:
Huh? It runs at 10FPS on 640x480 low settings. How in the world is that anywhere close to the console versions?
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i'd like my prize from OldJadedGamer now for meeting his challenge.


BritBloke916 said:
Hypothetically, if your company (or that of someone you knew) happened to pay the tiny annual fee required to be a member of the Microsoft Developer's Network, legit licence keys and official MS download links might be very easy to come by indeed.
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well in that case, you can play it on consoles for free... i mean, how many GAFfers won a 360 from that Mountain Dew contest, amirite?
 
OldJadedGamer said:
I just did a test and can confirm that the HD texture pack cannot install to a USB stick.
How else would you get it if you were building a PC from scratch?
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Student key, knowing someone with either a student key or a copy that could lend it to you. Etc.
Edit: MSDN keys are also available if you know someone with one. Also you can also borrow a legitimate copy if your company has an unlimited activation enterprise license.
Majanew said:
Nice framerate lol. Build a $400 PC on 2005 parts and post the results.
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Do I have to make it in 2011 or in 2005? Why does this make sense?
 
Majanew said:
Nice framerate lol. Build a $400 PC on 2005 parts and post the results.
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Also new OS usually not necessary either. So no need to include that :P Heck many PCs can just be upgraded for 200 dollars to run BF3. No need to replace them. Most home PCs have decent enough CPUs and RAM. Its just the GPU that is off.
 
LiquidMetal14 said:
I like the reactions when the PS3 version is either as good or maybe just slightly better. Never without fail.
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I like the reactions when PS3 exclusives receive an 8/10 review. ;)
 
Its good that finally developers seem to be really getting a firm hand on both consoles.
Unfortunately it happens to be a game with one of the most boring campaigns of all time. So regardless of which version you get the desire to sleep is just as strong.
 
Theonik said:
Student key, knowing someone with either a student key or a copy that could lend it to you. Etc.
Edit: MSDN keys are also available if you know someone with one. Also you can also borrow a legitimate copy if your company has an unlimited activation enterprise license.
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i question the legality of these claims.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
Its good that finally developers seem to be really getting a firm hand on both consoles.
Unfortunately it happens to be a game with one of the most boring campaigns of all time.
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Fortunately it's one of the best MP games of this gen.
 
AppleSmack said:
Also new OS usually not necessary either. So no need to include that :P Heck many PCs can just be upgraded for 200 dollars to run BF3. No need to replace them. Most home PCs have decent enough CPUs and RAM. Its just the GPU that is off.
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I have a Mac Laptop. Upgrade my PC to run this game.... My point all along is that any off the shelf 360 for $200 can play this game. While of course the PC runs the game better, you have to pay for that performance so it is silly and pointless to even bring it up in the first place even has a herp derp moment. You can compare the consoles to each other and compare videocards on the PC to each other. But it's simple trolling to compare the PC to the consoles.

The Faceless Master said:
i'd like my prize from OldJadedGamer now for meeting his challenge.
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That doesn't come with a windows license key that I saw. While this makes no difference, it is fun to see and thanks for posting it. Funny that it can actually start.
 
The Faceless Master said:
i question the legality of these claims.
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Strictly speaking, yes, most of these ways are quite shady/grey areas though they are common ways people use to attain copies of Windows. He asked how one might attain a free copy without any restriction. (I'd even say a lot of these are actually legal, especially using Student keys given to you from your organisation. or say getting a friend giving you his spare key he doesn't need.)
 
Theonik said:
Strictly speaking, yes, most of these ways are quite shady/grey areas though they are common ways people use to attain copies of Windows. He asked how one might attain a free copy without any restriction. (I'd even say a lot of these are actually legal, especially using Student keys given to you from your organisation. or say getting a friend giving you his spare key he doesn't need.)
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yeah, well then Craigslist has used consoles for $100-120!
 
funkystudent said:
And I want to see a multiplayer comparison. Why compare the least interesting part of the game? I am sure they put more effort into optimizing the multiplayer experiance then the single player anyway.
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Unless you were doing something like setting up private servers and playing out the same scenarios it's going to be almost impossible to do a decent comparison. Too unpredictable.

I guess you could take screenshots in the same places to look at IQ, but any frame rate analysis would be difficult.

Judging by the tone of the comparison, I think they're close enough that it comes down to Live/PSN, controller preference, etc.
 
OldJadedGamer said:
I just did a test and can confirm that the HD texture pack cannot install to a USB stick.
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This, and the fact that it cannot be installed in the 4GB Arcade units, should be mentioned in every review of the game.

Glad my 360 has a 250GB HDD.
 
Shurs said:
This, and the fact that it cannot be installed in the 4GB Arcade units, should be mentioned in every review of the game.

Glad my 360 has a 250GB HDD.
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That is seriously fucked up beyond all recognition, how many 4gbs are in the wild and they pull this stunt? wow!
 
OldJadedGamer said:
I have a Mac Laptop. Upgrade my PC to run this game.... My point all along is that any off the shelf 360 for $200 can play this game. While of course the PC runs the game better, you have to pay for that performance so it is silly and pointless to even bring it up in the first place even has a herp derp moment. You can compare the consoles to each other and compare videocards on the PC to each other. But it's simple trolling to compare the PC to the consoles.



That doesn't come with a windows license key that I saw. While this makes no difference, it is fun to see and thanks for posting it. Funny that it can actually start.
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Well I guess the better experience simply costs more.
 
CozMick said:
That is seriously fucked up beyond all recognition, how many 4gbs are in the wild and they pull this stunt? wow!
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To be fair, the majority of people who bought a 4gb model, probably won't care enough to notice. Still stinks though.
 
They both loose for disgusting eye bleeding screen tearing. Step yo game up game devs who don't fix this shit.

Unforgivable.
 
After watching the videos it seems like the PS3 version has a small edge, but the 360 version is almost as good so everyone wins.

They did a good job with this port.


Those with an HDD-less 360 though... well...
 
Seep said:
They both loose for disgusting eye bleeding screen tearing. Step yo game up game devs who don't fix this shit.

Unforgivable.
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Dude, the hardware is nearly six years old. And Frostbite 2 is cutting edge. The fact it runs al all is a minor miracle. It is one of the best looking console games I've ever seen, I'm mighty impressed.

And it's DICE ffs. It's not like they don't know their shit.

Unforgivable? You make it sound like they didn't even try.
 
-NinjaBoiX- said:
Dude, the hardware is nearly six years old. And Frostbite 2 is cutting edge. The fact it runs al all is a minor miracle. It is one of the best looking console games I've ever seen, I'm mighty impressed.

And it's DICE ffs. It's not like they don't know their shit.

Unforgivable? You make it sound like they didn't even try.
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BFBC + BFBC2 both have horrible screen tearing and look not nearly as good as this, I think the guys at DICE don't even notice the tearing or just don't care.

I'm not just blaming DICE I'm pissed at every dev who's games contain this truly off-putting and immersion breaking feature into their games.
 
Theonik said:
Strictly speaking, yes, most of these ways are quite shady/grey areas though they are common ways people use to attain copies of Windows. He asked how one might attain a free copy without any restriction. (I'd even say a lot of these are actually legal, especially using Student keys given to you from your organisation. or say getting a friend giving you his spare key he doesn't need.)
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For $15, you could of obtained Windows 7 keys(like 10) plus the oder versions from IEEE MSDN deal of posted on SD like 2 years ago with a non student email.

There's been ways to get legit keys and I'm sure will be the same for Win8.
 
-NinjaBoiX- said:
Dude, the hardware is nearly six years old. And Frostbite 2 is cutting edge. The fact it runs al all is a minor miracle. It is one of the best looking console games I've ever seen, I'm mighty impressed.

And it's DICE ffs. It's not like they don't know their shit.

Unforgivable? You make it sound like they didn't even try.
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Maybe he values tearing free image more than purdy GFX - unlike DICE ;)
 
angular graphics said:
Maybe he values tearing free image more than purdy GFX - unlike DICE ;)
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I'd take a tearing free game over purdy GFX every time.

If you wanted better GFX you wouldn't own a console you'd have a PC.
 
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