RoboFu
One of the green rats
Don’t be silly the game looks great. Just not as great as it was first showed just like every other big game these days.
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Digital Foundry calls out Turn10 for downgrading Forza Motorsport.
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YeulEmeralda
Member
Impressive sun.
MonkeyClaw36
Member
More like a kick in the family jewels for us customers.
RaZoR No1
Member
You can say whatever you want about FM
The expectation were very high after GT7 and the very long dev time of 6 Years for a FM game. Especially after saying multiple time: build from the ground up.
Unfortunatley they did not deliver.
The game is still buggy and feels unfinished, the graphics have moments, where they look really nice (on bad weather conditions, night races etc.) but it still is and feels like an older FM game.
As alot of people said it multiple times:
They had everything everyone wanted with FM4.
Why did they move away from the FM4 formula?
It had the correct cars, alot of tracks, awesome single and multiplayer. It did everything right.
Just update the graphics, physics and the content.
Still FM8 is not a bad game, but it just disappointed alot of players, because it did not fulfill the promises and expactations...
The expectation were very high after GT7 and the very long dev time of 6 Years for a FM game. Especially after saying multiple time: build from the ground up.
Unfortunatley they did not deliver.
The game is still buggy and feels unfinished, the graphics have moments, where they look really nice (on bad weather conditions, night races etc.) but it still is and feels like an older FM game.
As alot of people said it multiple times:
They had everything everyone wanted with FM4.
Why did they move away from the FM4 formula?
It had the correct cars, alot of tracks, awesome single and multiplayer. It did everything right.
Just update the graphics, physics and the content.
Still FM8 is not a bad game, but it just disappointed alot of players, because it did not fulfill the promises and expactations...
MonkeyClaw36
Member
This exactly. If FM4 was a bacon hamburger, this is a bigger burger, without the tasty bacon in a shiny styrofoam box.....
FM4's trailer alone was something to behold. It screams love for cars.
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kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I've watched both of DF's Forza Motorsport videos and I wasn't impressed at all to be honest. The game's visuals aren't a huge jump over its six year old predecessor. The tech has changed, but if you haven't been following Forza closely it's easy to mistake the new version for the old version. The biggest change seems to be 3D trees and shrubbery and 3D spectators. What many people thought was RT is SSR most of the time.
Even more disappointing is that they held the visuals of the PC version back so it matches those of the Xbox version. The ray tracing features are disappointing and the game has very poor CPU optimization. So many wasted opportunities ...
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
No, stop with the goalpost moving by strawmen mate, you know this is not what people are saying and not the problem even DF raised. Come on, you do not write as if English were a language you are yet to unlock…
I'm sorry but I call it BS.
Love for cars don't make you do a cinematic trailer of a car chase for a sim race simulation, maybe for a NFS.
Love for cars make you do stuff like these:
MonkeyClaw36
Member
I should've said marketing wise. Where was the buzz surrounding FM8?
Aaaand hiring Jeremy Clarkson and doing a FMV sequence in a populated city isnt love for cars? Hmmmm
Sidenote: I see PGR4 in a post, I see someone of culture.
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Astray
Gold Member
Fucking insane to see a leading Xbox 1P exclusive get rushed out like this, you wouldn't see Nintendo doing this with Mario or even Sony with God of War.
All just to feed the endless Gamepass sawmill.
MonkeyClaw36
Member
I always defended GamePass for being a good thing. But now I see devs rush just because they know they'll miss revenue because of it... Maybe its a short sighted thought, but its all I can think of atm.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Ah, so we're at the "M$" level of discussion now. Good to know we're finally approaching the bottom.
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Astray
Gold Member
In a few years, subscription economies will be the bane of gaming. People who are now parading how they can "play games for free" will be the 1st ones squealing.
In all walks of life, there's no maxim more true than "you get what you pay for".
Can't denigrate the trillion-dollar company, no sir.
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MonkeyClaw36
Member
Guess I attributed to a growing trend then....
Shame that the industry is going down the shitter like this. We can't be excited anymore for a new game. We have to be cautious. Now where in fuckall-land is the fun in that...
nemiroff
Gold Member
Take a look at my Forza OT history, I'm no typical defender. I'm just saying that kind of gutter-tier decorum is a tell-tale sign that a discussion is reaching absolute bottom.
Unknown?
Member
No it's not. It's low resolution and after a meter away it reverts to standard reflections.
Astray
Gold Member
Who the fuck cares if someone writes M$ or $ony (find me a currency that can fit into Nintendo and I will do it immediately)? How does that make a discussion good or bad?
MonkeyClaw36
Member
Nintendough? NinYENdo?
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Astray
Gold Member
Banjo64
cumsessed
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Team Andromeda
Member
Not moving any goalposts at all. I'm not seeing much difference between what I'm playing now to what was shown off last year.
Team Andromeda
Member
It's still RF flections and it's pathetic to see DF need to get out the tape measure.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Generational difference.Well, they should have said it and pointed it out in the numerous videos they have made, not tiptoeing around the topic.
Maybe with mods we can achieve this on PC?
Team Andromeda
Member
You aren't busting my bubble. I know because I've played it and own it and spare us your system-bashing list, it shows you for what you really are...
Team Andromeda
Member
I still have my Flashpoint and no it doesn't work on my modern PC. The same goes for my Blood 2, Geoff's F1 GP2 and 3, Blade Runner, Gabe Knight 2 and a host of my old PC games. DF are playing the spin game. Sure there are workaround, but that is true on consoles too and how I'm able to play RARE's remake of Goldeneye for example.
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systemr123
Member
Sure sure, something is really off with the lighting. I only have this issue with this game and Starfield which has the same levels of grey, but instead you choose to call it system bashing. Great stuff.
And the rumble really just is terrible, but then again, that is actually because of the controller hardware.
And the AI is horrible, you can see that in many videos too. And much other stuff that’s not up to snuff. This thread is full of criticism because the game just isn’t great. And then there’s also the progression system etc etc.
Please get off your high horse and just admit that this game isn’t as perfect as you want it to be in your mind.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Some people will intentionally ignore all issues and pretend a game is fantastic.
Don't worry. A huge percentage of people seem to agree with your thoughts.
JimboJones
Member
Accessing the work arounds on PC are way more accessable though.I still have my Flashpoint and no it doesn't work on my modern PC. The same goes for my Blood 2, Geoff's F1 GP2 and 3, Blade Runner, Gabe Knight 2 and a host of my old PC games. DF are playing the spin game. Sure there are workaround, but that is true on consoles too and how I'm able to play RARE's remake of Goldeneye for example.
PC is an open platform.
DF isn't saying you can't access work arounds on consoles.
I feel way more comfortable withy collection of games on PC working into future than my collection of games on consoles working into the future on future console platforms.
Some people will intentionally ignore all issues and pretend a game is fantastic.
Don't worry. A huge percentage of people seem to agree with your thoughts.
Certinty
Member
I'm... disappointed.
Mainly because I actually quite like the gameplay.
It's just everything else feels barebones and sometimes outright sucks, as if it was extremely rushed or not cared about. Already had a number of bugs present too.
If this really took six years to make then serious questions need to be asked about what these employees were doing with their time as it's also very clearly not 'from the ground up'.
Mainly because I actually quite like the gameplay.
It's just everything else feels barebones and sometimes outright sucks, as if it was extremely rushed or not cared about. Already had a number of bugs present too.
If this really took six years to make then serious questions need to be asked about what these employees were doing with their time as it's also very clearly not 'from the ground up'.
MonkeyClaw36
Member
Then go see an optometrist. I played it for 30 minutes, saw that it was WAY below what was shown/ promised (FM7 looks the same and we're 6 years down the road)
Criticism is now console bashing? Ok bro, ok.....
I owned a Series X until this morning. Sold it because FM was the only reason I still had it. Am I now bashing?
Bought a PS5 with GT7 PS4 version. Upgraded free to the PS5 version and I'm very happy.
You're either blatantly lying or just fucking clueless.
This game isnt anywhere near what was promised quality wise. That and this game is as barebones as could be. They fucked up a franchise. BIG TIME
Glad you enjoy it, but don't lie. Even if it's because you want to justify paying 70 bucks for this. A lie is a lie.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Exactly!
Varteras
Gold Member
Some people will intentionally ignore all issues and pretend a game is fantastic.
Don't worry. A huge percentage of people seem to agree with your thoughts.
Is it me or are Steam reviews really showing the divide between gaming critics and actual gamers?
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Some people will intentionally ignore all issues and pretend a game is fantastic.
Don't worry. A huge percentage of people seem to agree with your thoughts.
No way this is real. I refuse to believe PC gamers on Steam are giving this game a 51% approval. Something has got to be up now.
Varteras
Gold Member
Us PC gamers clearly have no standards.
That's what I expected next gen to look like. Oh well.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
51% of stuff works.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
RedFall, Gears 5 Hivebusters (they literally read MS's press release almost word-for-word; the actual game did turn out visually well tho and in line with reveal footage, so it's not the best example) are two of the other big examples I can think of.
Oh, and Starfield, prior to the game actually releasing.
Hopefully those who still question Sony's current PC porting strategy come to understand: this is the danger we want them to avoid needlessly walking into.
And people are going to say "Oh the ports are years later"...until they aren't. Until they're Day 1. What happens then? Same as what's happened with Xbox.
What we were advertised:
What it actually looks like on a 4090:
Getting a better look now the rocks actually do look like the ones from Halo Infinite :/
Yeah, MS let those obviously non-biased outlets like Pure Xbox, Somos Xbox, Xbox Generacion, True Achievements, Xbox Xbox, Lick My Xbox etc. give very accurate reviews that in fact mentioned all the issues in the game so people could be well-informed on their order.
Jesus Christ, is this a script prompt now? Why do y'all ALWAYS do this to yourselves? Think Forza looks good? Fine. But then the obvious bait "better than ANY racing game on ANY console".
You're like Steve Buscemi starting a bar fight at a truck stop. You're asking for a beatdown.
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PhillMeCream
Member
This game isn’t fun anymore, you gotta drive a car to level up in order to upgrade it?!? I’m finding myself not even wanting to renew my game pass for next month
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
It's because of a new Steam user-review scoring system that is ... built from the ground up.
MacReady13
Member
Some of us have been saying this for years now. Game pass and sub services will be the end of great gaming...
Thirty7ven
Banned
Gotta get that content out or people will unsubscribe. Get used to it. And fans seem to enable this, look at the Redfall patch thread, people won’t quit even on a trash game.
Let a third party release a broken mess and it’s a shit storm though.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
I'm surprised that even on a 4090/i9 beast of a rig the game doesn't look as close to the 2022 reveal footage you'd think it would be.
Honestly I don't think it's a talent issue (FM7 looked great for its time) so much a budget issue. Similar to with RedFall; you can't do a lot if your budget is getting slashed back heavily. It was bound to happen with Microsoft giving Xbox clearance to get big 3P publisher acquisitions.
They couldn't do that and keep the budgets for games large simultaneously, something had to give.
Windom Earle
Member
This gif continues to dumpster the competition. Imagine what Drive Club PS5 could have been like. Fuck Sony for letting this slide.
took em long enough