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Digital Foundry Direct 'Special': Worst PC Ports of 2023
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Redfall was just a bad game not so much a bad port imo
mansoor1980
Gold Member
starfield should be there as well
in before todd howard "upgrade your pc"
in before todd howard "upgrade your pc"
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No, it was a bad port too. The thing is, it was also broken on Xbox so the port wasn't so bad so much as the game itself. You're both right lol.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Did you just "you're both right" and include yourself in it ?
Just 2 posts to bring in Starfield in an unrelated topic.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's a bad port so it should be in the list if not number 1.Did you just "you're both right" and include yourself in it ?
Just 2 posts to bring in Starfield in an unrelated topic.
$D$F$ going to do what they do.
I personally am waiting till they improve it on PC b4 diving in.
mansoor1980
Gold Member
it is relatedDid you just "you're both right" and include yourself in it ?
Just 2 posts to bring in Starfield in an unrelated topic.
DF themselves analysed it at launch
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Zathalus
Member
It was heavy on the system requirements but that was about it. Certainly no major issues with stuttering or the graphical issues seen in the video. It wasn't a great PC version but I wouldn't even include it in the ten worse PC versions of the year. Hogwarts Legacy and Ratchet were worse at launch for example (to name some not in the video).
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They briefly cover it in the Redfall segment, saying that most of the issues and complaints people had launch were fixed in the first few weeks, unlike the other games in the list where it took months (or in some cases still not fixed).
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Oh yeah that's what I wanted today.
30 minutes of Bugaga crying "shader compilation"
edit: Ok I am watching this and WTF. They are not going to talk about games that released less than 3 months ago because they are giving "fair" 3 months for patches? Wtf is that.
And bugaga is already doing prolonged squinting. He is already malfunctioning.
Edit: and then despite giving "3 months" they go attacking forspoken... but it was patched 2 months after release with better graphics, ao and so on (edit ok they acknowledge it)
30 minutes of Bugaga crying "shader compilation"
edit: Ok I am watching this and WTF. They are not going to talk about games that released less than 3 months ago because they are giving "fair" 3 months for patches? Wtf is that.
And bugaga is already doing prolonged squinting. He is already malfunctioning.
Edit: and then despite giving "3 months" they go attacking forspoken... but it was patched 2 months after release with better graphics, ao and so on (edit ok they acknowledge it)
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Mister Wolf
Member
Respawn should not use Unreal Engine for the third Survivor game. They don't know how to use it properly.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Top worst ports are almost entirely populated by EA.
The games themselves are good, EA just sucks at outsourcing PC conversions.
The games themselves are good, EA just sucks at outsourcing PC conversions.
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S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You can't be serious
Senua
Member
I'd actually put Forza Motorsport in this list. The constant memory leaks, DLSS being completely broken until recently, shite-tier CPU scaling. Missing graphical features from the XSX quality mode (extra scenery detail). Also a 30+ gig hi res texture pack that does NOTHING, it has worse textures than Forza Motorsport 7. It's slowly getting better but jeez what an unfinished product.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Forspoopin's AO overhaul patch came out in May.
You can't be serious
Watch the video, they cover it within the Redfall segment.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Don't be so petty. I didn't check when the patch came out. it barely matters.Forspoopin's AO overhaul patch came out in May.
Watch the video, they cover it within the Redfall segment.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
It's not in the list...Forspoopin's AO overhaul patch came out in May.
Watch the video, they cover it within the Redfall segment.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
They talk about it in the Redfall segment, they say it wasn't one of the worst PC ports at launch anyway and BGS were quick to fix most of the issues in the first few weeks, unlike the games where it took months or in cases like Dead Space, Wild Hearts, Jedi Survivor where the PC versions are still not fixed.
It doesn't come anywhere near the 'worst PC ports of 2023'.
I'm not claiming it, they talk about it pretty openly in the video.
Also, Starfield's issues at launch were relatively smaller things like missing official DLSS plugin and FoV slider. The games in this list are straight up broken with persistent stuttering and such.
It's apples to oranges.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Nah, I meant that both DF and Heisenberg are right.Did you just "you're both right" and include yourself in it ?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Didn’t buy a single one of these games. Get fucked. 
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
The minor improvements didn't come till late Nov not a couple weeks later like you claimed.
They talk about it in the Redfall segment, they say it wasn't one of the worst PC ports at launch anyway and BGS were quick to fix most of the issues in the first few weeks, unlike the games where it took months or in cases like Dead Space, Wild Hearts, Jedi Survivor where the PC versions are still not fixed.
It doesn't come anywhere near the 'worst PC ports of 2023'.
Also meme worthy bugs still exist.
It won't make these damage controllers list to no ones surprise.
Zathalus
Member
Ratchet and Clank had broken RT and texture streaming issues with plenty of graphical issues (especially with water) on the later planets. It was also rather prone to crashing and ran (still does) quite badly when enabling RT. Hogwarts Legacy had severe stuttering issues at launch that required a few patches to clear up.You can't be serious
Starfield by comparison had no DLSS and had a performance overhead that was later patched. No stuttering issues, extensive shader compilation, or outright broken graphical effects or texture issues. It has in-game bugs of course, but this video is obviously talking about the technical portion of the game. If in-game bugs were to be included them BG3 had far more severe issues, but it is obviously not included because the game wasn't a technical mess.
Buggy Loop
Member
They're never gonna fix Jedi Survivor, they never really fixed Fallen Order, so...
we keep buying (I'm part of the problem)
we keep buying (I'm part of the problem)
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
DLSS wasn't*officially*added till a couple months later
Bugs are still there and are apart of tech/performance especially when freezing and crashing from them.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
Yeah, how have they not put Forza on that list is beyond me. The launch version on pc was just a broken mess. Constant stutter, DLSS not working or even detecting, memory leak, Shit cpu utilisation, brokenRT effects that didn't work, broken graphics settings and missing track details. One of the worst pc ports ever tbh. Its alot better now but still far from perfect.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
2023 was the first time I considered dropping pc gaming. I have a 4090 and should not be seeing issues that won't be fixed.
I play dead space remake pc every week and I always feel so let down by the traversal stutter!
yeah.... Dead Space demo was a good warning for me to better get ps5 version
That damn thing stuttered so much on shuttle explosion that whole cutscene went by in the background
You two make me want to get it on PC so my beast could slay it.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You can try free demo.
Don't get me wrong, you will get great fps but stutter is stutter
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Good call. I completely forgot about that one. It should definitely be there.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Come on, man. Why do you want to torture him?
Lucifers Beard
Member
What? The game was a bit of a mess at launch, still isn't as good as it should be. It's definitely related.Just 2 posts to bring in Starfield in an unrelated topic.
Mister Wolf
Member
They're never gonna fix Jedi Survivor, they never really fixed Fallen Order, so...
we keep buying (I'm part of the problem)
The only way I could enjoy it was with the Frame Generation mod.
poodaddy
Member
This is the fuckin right attitude and the post barely got any attention.Didn’t buy a single one of these games. Get fucked.
Stop rewarding shit ports with your money people. You want this to change? Don't ever spend money on lackluster PC ports. If publishers can't be bothered to put funding and effort towards PC ports then they shouldn't receive sales. If they fix the games later, reward them with a purchase during a sale, but one should never spend full price on a lackluster port. Just don't do it.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I guess they’re saving Konami’s MGS for next year?
diffusionx
Gold Member
PS5 version was a mess at launch though, thankfully they fixed it quickly. That stupid VRS has to be the most overhyped graphical feature.yeah.... Dead Space demo was a good warning for me to better get ps5 version
That damn thing stuttered so much on shuttle explosion that whole cutscene went by in the background
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I tried the demo. Just the traversal stutter is still there.
What makes you think the PC version is the port?
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
agreed
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
They start the video off by absolving the devs of any blame and put the blame squarely on the publisher. What? Microsoft gave Turn 10 6 fucking years to make one game and they blew it. this is not on Phil Spencer. Sony gave ND 7 months after launching the PS5 version to port TLOU Part 1. They didnt force day one releases like EA does. So who is at fault there?
Alex was like we didnt bother reviewing TLOU at launch because it was so bad. Id argue that they MUST review these broken ports and give them a 0/10 for being unfuckingplayable. People do watch these videos from DF. they total several hundred thousand views despite them not being a PC focused channel. They owe it to their audience to review these games and be harsh. It is literally their job. Making a funny podcast style video isnt enough. It needs to be a review and it needs to rip Naughty Dog a new one.
Respawn made the game and decided not to fix it. The immortal devs are still fixing it. Game published by the same EA that published Dead Space and Respawn. We need to stop putting devs on a pedestal. This is on the dev who knew that the shader stutter in Star Wars and Dead Space rendered them unplayable in some levels, and didnt bother telling his bosses. If he told his managers then its on them. If the managers told their studio exec leadership then its on them. I highly doubt Jim Ryan or Phil Spencer even know about shader struggle. I am going to blame the devs who ship games with bugs.
Lastly, EA let Respawn delay the game OUT of their Fiscal Year. It wasnt forced to release during the holiday period. They were willing to take a hit on their fiscal year earnings. They literally told Respawn to delay it by 3 months but Stig said 1 month is fine. This is on DEVS.
Absolutely fucking retarded I say.
Alex was like we didnt bother reviewing TLOU at launch because it was so bad. Id argue that they MUST review these broken ports and give them a 0/10 for being unfuckingplayable. People do watch these videos from DF. they total several hundred thousand views despite them not being a PC focused channel. They owe it to their audience to review these games and be harsh. It is literally their job. Making a funny podcast style video isnt enough. It needs to be a review and it needs to rip Naughty Dog a new one.
Respawn made the game and decided not to fix it. The immortal devs are still fixing it. Game published by the same EA that published Dead Space and Respawn. We need to stop putting devs on a pedestal. This is on the dev who knew that the shader stutter in Star Wars and Dead Space rendered them unplayable in some levels, and didnt bother telling his bosses. If he told his managers then its on them. If the managers told their studio exec leadership then its on them. I highly doubt Jim Ryan or Phil Spencer even know about shader struggle. I am going to blame the devs who ship games with bugs.
Lastly, EA let Respawn delay the game OUT of their Fiscal Year. It wasnt forced to release during the holiday period. They were willing to take a hit on their fiscal year earnings. They literally told Respawn to delay it by 3 months but Stig said 1 month is fine. This is on DEVS.
they didnt include anything after september because they think there should be a grace period of 3 months to allow devs to FIX the game.
Absolutely fucking retarded I say.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They're painfully bad at this.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
i also play it on a 3080 on a 7.5GBps ssd and 32GB of ram. The only difference is that my CPU is a 11700k and i am using ddr4 3600 ram.
It is stuttering hell. Every new area i enter has massive stutters that last 5 seconds. and because its not shader compilation, it continues to happen as its traversal related stutter so all backtracking means i continue to encounter these stutters. In a game that has you enter and leave rooms every couple of minutes, it is virtually unplayable.
Calverz
Member
By time I played dead space (around 6 months after launch) it was generally fine. The stutters were there but not shockingly bad on a 4090. The game was so good I was able to put up with it. I agree fm23 should be there as the game launched unfinished. Tlou at launch was a nightmare. So many issues and at one point ran my cpu to like 98 degrees c. In fact, it’s what encouraged me to upgrade my case to allow more air flow. But after a couple of patches it improved a lot and I really enjoyed playing through at ultrawide.
Stamps1646
Member
Starfield had to be modded just to get the game to work, it took Bethesda over a month to get it somewhat working.
Wild Heart was unplayable.
Wild Heart was unplayable.