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[Digital Foundry] Inside Xbox Series X: How Microsoft Redefined Console Form Factor

I get that they're going to continue with the Elite controller, but no integrated paddles on the new controllers is a huge missed opportunity. Doubtful Sony will do it either, but at least their paddle add-on will probably still be ~$30. I bought the original Elite for 150 just for the paddles...all the other shit is pointless honestly. And the build quality was even worse than the standard Xbox One controller.

But good on MS for making a bigger machine. Never understood small form factor consoles for the initial release. Pump power into it, then come out with a slim model later on. "But it doesn't fit in my center console!" Okay...nail 4 4x4's together or spend 50 bucks on a bigger one. Don't hamstring the entire console generation because you can't fit it in a drawer.
 
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whoa... what an epic design...

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lol seriously man? There's been just as many if not more "fluff" pieces for the PS5 as well but you can't tell me the design and internals of this console isn't anything but impressive. You don't have to like the company to respect what they are building.
Yeah, it's nice. I'm very happy that they are making another console and it will help provide competition and motivation for PlayStation.

If Jim Ryan doesn't measure up, he'll be gone.
 
copying Mac on that cannot be a bad thing

Mac Pro has to cool 2 gpu + 1 cpu IIRC.
If you talk about copying, even Series X top grills look like Apple cheese grater :messenger_spock:

Series X use of a thick standardish 130mm fan, is the peak design element, it will move big volume of air at low noise. You cant do that with those laptop blade fans.
No space is wasted, you can tell MS spent a lot more resources designing this system than before!

Buy a Series X to support their hard work!
 
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Some of these comments. Lmao
Lots of russled jimmies.

The design is merely a byproduct of them wanting (and achieving) the most powerful console whilst also keeping the acoustics nice and quiet.

To put things into perspective, you can't by a PC with this kind of power at that small of a form factor. And definitely not at the $500 price the Series X is rumored to be.
 
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MS went from big wasted space and cheap looking Xbox One, to being a design leader with Series X.

The hardware transformation is complete. Now for the sales to hopefully and rightfully catch up.

Eww, and the external power brick is not even pictured.

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Have to, cooling a 12TF GPU (or APU rather) requires good cooling, GPU's in that class tend to 1-2 dedicated fans hosed in a closed casing.
You then have the SSD, SSD expansion, UHD and PSU sitting/sticking next to them which generates and hold more heat, hence the 130mm fan.

To put things into perspective the red LED fan is 140mm (NZXT H440, I'll use it for my new comp, CBA if it's old I like the color scheme).
Of course taste and opinion differs, but IMO the solution they came up with isn't bad, we'll know how it plays out upon launch - same old is boring :p

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The Fapstation.
 
lol seriously man? There's been just as many if not more "fluff" pieces for the PS5 as well but you can't tell me the design and internals of this console isn't anything but impressive. You don't have to like the company to respect what they are building.
This Bryank75 guy is just an Xbot fanboy pretending to be a Playstation fan, trolling in every xbox thread by making irrelevant comments that have nothing to do with OP or the topics being discussed, just to make playstation fan look bad.
 
This Bryank75 guy is just an Xbot fanboy pretending to be a Playstation fan, trolling in every xbox thread by making irrelevant comments that have nothing to do with OP or the topics being discussed, just to make playstation fan look bad.
So report him and move on.

I don't like to and tend not to use the report button, but the mods have said over and over again that they moderate by reports. So if something does offend you, you should report it according to them.

Otherwise they may never see it.
 
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Have to, cooling a 12TF GPU (or APU rather) requires good cooling, GPU's in that class tend to 1-2 dedicated fans hosed in a closed casing.
You then have the SSD, SSD expansion, UHD and PSU sitting/sticking next to them which generates and hold more heat, hence the 130mm fan.

To put things into perspective the red LED fan is 140mm (NZXT H440, I'll use it for my new comp, CBA if it's old I like the color scheme).
Of course taste and opinion differs, but IMO the solution they came up with isn't bad, we'll know how it plays out upon launch - same old is boring :p

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Ageed. Thanks for the picture. This is a good example on how not to build a computer in 2020 || 2020 - 4.
 
So report him and move on.

I don't like to and tend not to use the report button, but the mods have said over and over again that they moderate by reports. So if something does offend you, you should report it according to them.

Otherwise they may never see it.
Yeah, report button is glorious. I got a frag on gamernyc.
 
Jason28 Jason28 CitizenX3639 CitizenX3639 Look at those idiots calling Rich names just because he said something positive about xbox. Fucking sony fanboys are the worst.

Why are you calling them names just for calling Leadbetter out one time?
Now, when you reply by saying "nah, not one time look at the patter..." before you complete the sentence I expect the penny to drop/the realisation of what some people mean. The guy is biased and loves to hype it up and is nowhere near as excited about anything Sony made ever and that influences what he does and his site should be trusted as being super partes reputation wise...

Now, insulting Leadbetter for this piece would be wrong and it was an enjoyable video on something really cool (motherboard design and cooling of XSX is fascinating, selling me on the console more than the performance they achieved, but I am a bit of a HW nutcase like that :p).
 
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It is not as fun and does not have enough oomph as some of those memes.
I have a hilarious photoshop in mind. It will be more fun and hit harder. I need to start working on it now!

This one is pretty hilarious too. I like this one lol

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Hahaha

It's like the ultimate statement. Only getting an xbox to rest your PS5 on it lol.

The PS4 memes about how Microsoft could only sell the xbox if it came with a PS4, in the same kind of vien, were hilarious.

These memes about Playstation always selling more and being the much bigger brand are so much more powerful and hit so much more harder
 
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You obviously missed MS response to this.

And they missed the meme thread where they can post this shit (and previous Mod post), instead of wiping their dirty shitty arses all over genuine discussion threads 🙈

It's a problem for both sides in this war - they just can't grasp it.
 
For those complaining about what it looks like, I don't give a rats ass what it looks like. It needs to be fairly powerful, works in the living room and comes in at $500.

If it does all that then it's perfect.

Agreed, and I don't think it looks bad at all, just different.
 
MS went from big wasted space and cheap looking Xbox One, to being a design leader with Series X.

The hardware transformation is complete. Now for the sales to hopefully and rightfully catch up.

Eww, and the external power brick is not even pictured.

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That shit was absolutely silent tho. Don't mind that at all.


You are late to the game breh:
 
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The console just looks well thought out and marketing it by pushing the creators of the thing into the spotlight is super smart. They are doing an apple, where that cult like designer dude is the face of all their 'beautiful' creations.

Now if only Xbox has some good exclusive games, Xbox will do super well next gen. Imagine if they somehow could bring Rare to their prime again. 4k/60fps Banjo, Perfect Dark, Kart game...
 
To bad the "redefined Console Form Factor" puts it in the no longer possible to put in my "media cabinet" due to the size/shape.
OH GOD I hope PS5 do not have a similar form factor and size/shape.
 
if they somehow could bring Rare to their prime again. 4k/60fps Banjo, Perfect Dark, Kart game...
They need to take some risk with such titles because they are what defines a successful console - variety.
Rare could make Killer Instinct 2* also while at is.
 
To bad the "redefined Console Form Factor" puts it in the no longer possible to put in my "media cabinet" due to the size/shape.
OH GOD I hope PS5 do not have a similar form factor and size/shape.
No offense but who cares if it fits in your media center. Reliability, cooling, silence, and performance are what I want out of a console that most likely will cost $500 USD. I'll find a place where it does fit. Easily.
 
To bad the "redefined Console Form Factor" puts it in the no longer possible to put in my "media cabinet" due to the size/shape.
OH GOD I hope PS5 do not have a similar form factor and size/shape.
i hope for you it will not ...because ps5 is probably also >300w and i boudt it will "breath" correctly in there.
 
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I like it, sure it's basically just a black rectangle buts it's classy looking, a lot will depend on the finish of the final materials.

The internals remind me of the attention to detail HTC put into their HTC Legend, arguably another great bit of industrial design.

There will be a lot of scope for limited edition versions, that's a great blank canvas to work from.
I just want that d-pad to finally pass the Street Fighter test.
 
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Lol this started by explaining the console's unique form factor (optimal cooling, among other things), immediately derailed it to richard (DF) then it turned into a meme thread, this is amazing :messenger_grinning:
 
So when is this thread turning into PS5 vs Xbox? Also that is the most boring design of anything ever. Where would I put something like that I wonder...
 
3 yrs ago this week, Cosair, I guess didnt invent what MS and the rest have praised them as their own idea. When will you learn MS does nothing but copy everyone else ideas and sell them to their sheep as their own.

 
I get that they're going to continue with the Elite controller, but no integrated paddles on the new controllers is a huge missed opportunity. Doubtful Sony will do it either, but at least their paddle add-on will probably still be ~$30. I bought the original Elite for 150 just for the paddles...all the other shit is pointless honestly. And the build quality was even worse than the standard Xbox One controller.

But good on MS for making a bigger machine. Never understood small form factor consoles for the initial release. Pump power into it, then come out with a slim model later on. "But it doesn't fit in my center console!" Okay...nail 4 4x4's together or spend 50 bucks on a bigger one. Don't hamstring the entire console generation because you can't fit it in a drawer.
Paddles are just another part that can break and most people that have an Elite don't even use the paddles.
 
3 yrs ago this week, Cosair, I guess didnt invent what MS and the rest have praised them as their own idea. When will you learn MS does nothing but copy everyone else ideas and sell them to their sheep as their own.

That's a copy?
 
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