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It could be just that the video of the XB1 version was originally captured with more compression, so it shows like more blurring here.
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Digital Foundry: Tomb Raider: DE on PS4 vs Xbox One
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fastford58
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Not sure that is the version that should be under scrutiny. But all things considered...yeah. Carry on.
My point is that your "clarification" is at odds with the wording used in the industry. If people find the overlap between capped and locked confusing, they would likely have difficulty contributing meaningfully to the conversation in the first place.
The average framerate of this game on PS4 is better than many current gen games that run 60FPS. Like DMC4/MGR while advertised to run at 60FPS have frequent dips (in the case of MGR it dips really low at times) and if you average out their frames it would probably be around what this game's is.
This is way way better than have it be locked/capped at 30. I can't believe people are trying to argue that especially when the lowest PS4 value is still higher than the highest of the XB1 version!
This is way way better than have it be locked/capped at 30. I can't believe people are trying to argue that especially when the lowest PS4 value is still higher than the highest of the XB1 version!
This is what I would guess.
Yep. 60fps games on consoles are rarely 60 all the time. CoD on PS3 didn't even get to 60 most of the time but everyone still says they're 60.
? Its still the one to get, way to cut out the other half of my post.
fuzzyreactor
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lol, this guy
and the embarrassment for Microsoft continues. The ps4 is only going to continue to get better, this is early in the gen. And the Xbone will always only be able to be as good as its sum of parts, which are inferior to the PS4.
Damn this is incredible to witness.
Plenty good for last gen's 1080p titles, plenty good for early games at 1080p on new consoles.
Is "both are bad?" The new party line now? Shit.. gotta update.
Damn this is incredible to witness.
Plenty good for last gen's 1080p titles, plenty good for early games at 1080p on new consoles.
Is "both are bad?" The new party line now? Shit.. gotta update.
I guess that's what happen when there is a noticeable power difference between the two consoles.
Nice spin though.
anexanhume
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Yeah, but it's not really informative to gets it max anyway without a XB1 max too.
maquiladora
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With gameplay dips to 24fps I wouldn't be expecting too much..
Isn't that basically showing when you compare the two lowest instances? 24vs33. I guess the XB 1 would be 10 Fps below the PS4 if it was uncapped?
Joke post?
Yeah. With the framerate capped at 30, it would be legitimately impossible.
djblackice
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Wow, as low as 24 fps on XBO version?
Yikes.
Yikes.
Why would i talk about Xbone version? Its capped at 30fps as it should be if its not hitting 45+.
BotoxAgent
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let them dream
fastford58
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Perhaps...I guess the good thing is that there is no sharpening filter in use here. Also, no crushed blacks. With the native 1080p, it seems that these things are not present (also evident in Forza5).
I would rather slightly blurry IQ with more dynamic black ranges than the above if I had a choice.
shinobi602
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I like you.I feel like you need this.
Oh so you actually were serious, was wondering if my sarcasm detector was busted.
Marty Chinn
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I have no doubts the PS4 is more powerful, but nobody can really quantify in game performance what the gap is if the Xbox One version is capped at 30.
djblackice
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Agreed, I wonder what the spin would have been and here it is in this very thread wearing its ugly head.
kitschbeam
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Been playing this game on my PS4 for a while. For someone who never played the PC version this definitive version certainly delivered, at least in terms of graphics.
One minor complain though, sometimes Lara's movement still feels kinda robotic and her eyes seem lifeless but that's very few and far between.
One minor complain though, sometimes Lara's movement still feels kinda robotic and her eyes seem lifeless but that's very few and far between.
I might just have unrealistic expectations for my ps4- I fully admit I don't know the complexities of getting a game like TR to run locked at 60, people seem to indicate that TressFX is a hog.
I feel like you need this.
Pure victory.
If you read the article it states it was more difficult to optimize the PS4 version, its performance seems more brute force/raw, Also X1 seemingly had more development time since The devs doing the ps4 version had to help with the X1. So I wouldnt say they are lazy if it required more work.
The numbers you gave represent a 37% increase in favor of PS4. You can't just add ten frames and call it good. The Bone version ran poorly enough that the team decided a cap was needed. That tells you more than I ever could.
maquiladora
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But whole point of this is a comparison between PS4 vs. Xbox One.
It's not a comparison between PS4 vs. My Idea Of What Good Performance Is.
I highly doubt its constantly fluctuating between 30 and 60. It probably runs around 55 -60 fps for the most part and drops to around 30 when the game transitions between cutscenes etc.
LittleJohnny
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I know I'm going to get jumped on, but I've seen worse things happen last gen:
And worse the fact that it wasn't just the framerate that suffered. At least the quality is comparable in Tomb Raider
I know it may seem crazy to some, but I'm waiting a little before assuming that things will get worse instead of better. I mean even if they stay where they are, Tomb Raider looks great on the Bone and I'm certain things will get better for both anyway. In the future we'll look back at these first gen titles and probably chuckle at the arguments.
Kocolino67
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This was really informative to me in the DF article:
It's kind of off topic, but it's part of the article. I know, graphic options are against console philosophy. But if this "consoles becoming more like PCs, and PCs becoming more like consoles" sentence is true, they really could start to add some simple options. Like FPS, resolution, or effects optimized.
It's kind of off topic, but it's part of the article. I know, graphic options are against console philosophy. But if this "consoles becoming more like PCs, and PCs becoming more like consoles" sentence is true, they really could start to add some simple options. Like FPS, resolution, or effects optimized.
crazygambit
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Serious question. How do you lock the framerate then? How would a locked game deal with a more complex scene? Something has to give after all.
He was talking about the PS 4 being 40% faster, so 37% cuts it pretty close, no?
And the cap is most likely there because a drop from 40 to 30 is more jarring than a drop from 50 to 40
Same applies to the PS4 version maintaining 60fps. Meh on both these versions.
Maybe they'll offer a patch for the PC version.
I second this. So many people in here complaining that PS4 version hits 30ish alot. They need to go back and look at the average the PS4 hits and realize that game would run better unlocked.
Sounds like tears also.
It dips below 30 in action packed scenes. The entire snow fight, for example, keeps the XB1 version under 30fps for the most part: http://youtu.be/UzuT0uA9snE?t=2m13s
Interesting thing about that vid...there are some very brief moments where the XB1 version goes to 32fps. Is that a framecount glitch I wonder?
Impeccable
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Yeah, we will all forget this. Like people forget about last generations debacles.
averaging 53 with Tressfx is disappointing? by this logic, 98% of all games created in history of consoles/PC have disappointing performances!
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