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Dishonored 2 PC performance thread
- Thread starter JaseC
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If I had to guess, they don't want to pay any more royalties for using Unreal.
But but, polygon write the article for the click...
Water on Ultra is a huge FPS hit, much better off lowering it. I put everything on Very high except Textures and draw distance are on ultra at 1440p using a 1070 and I get 50-60 fps (locked it to 60) with it mostly staying around 60. However, I ended up using a controller since mouse controls felt awkward so the hitching when fps changes occur aren't that noticeable.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
very astute. good point.
The game is fucking awesome, but the performance really drags the whole thing down. Wish I hadn't bought a key.. no refunds for meI hope they patch it rather soon.
Is it likely they can/will?
How have other IDTECH 5 engine games improved since release?
Slackbladder
Member
Hmm. Think I'll give this a miss for now. I'm sick and tired of fighting with games to get the performance from them that should've been there day one. There's plenty else out there for me to buy but no more pre-ordering. I've learnt my lesson with Horizon 3 and Mafia 3. If a games performance is below par in reviews I'm not getting it at launch (assuming performance is even mentioned in reviews), even if it's something I really want like Mass Effect Andromeda, though I have a feeling that will work pretty well thanks to the Frostbite engine.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
what really surprised me was during the GB quicklook they said they were just running the game just fine, but what suspicious was that Bethesda was adamant about them not being able to look/report on the graphical options.
ugh.
ugh.
NeoRaider
Member
What a clustefuck.
DOOM is a much better game in terms of optimization and it even runs perfectly on a hardware from 2013 with Vulkan.
This is just... wow. For the game that looks the way it looks this is just sad.
Only 3 cards can give 60fps at 1080p!
Fahzgoolin
Banned
You mean only 2 cards can reach it? Because I wouldn't count 1080 SLI as a separate card.
It's either own a 1070 or own one or two 1080, what a clusterfuck this is.
NeoRaider
Member
I actually included 980Ti, because some ppl are saying that it doesn't drop below 60 very often.
And there is also Titan X Pascal. Lmao
Could not agree more. I was burned by both of those and I'm glad I'm not getting this yet. Will wait for a price drop when the game is better anyway.
I don't think the problem's in 970. I have that too, was getting 60+ FPS in the tutorial, but the game feels like it's 20-30.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
I own a 1070 and its still a cluster fuck. It goes from 100+fps to 40/50fps constantly. even when i lower the settings it doesnt seem to matter. Might as well lose the extra 5fps and keep it at all ulra
edit: even in areas where I'm getting 90 fps it feels jittery. I'll try locking my monitors refresh rate to 60 and see if it helps, but fuck this shit.
Coreda
Member
Basically the minimum/rec requirements are bogus, GPU-wise. It's pretty much latest high end or nothing atm.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
for a game that really is nothing to write home about graphically this is unacceptable. And it's worrisome that people are so pessimistic about this getting fixed ever because of the engine.
NeoRaider
Member
Exactly. I mean if you don't have 1070 or 1080 you are pretty much fucked. Even at 1080p.
AMD doesn't even offer powerful enough GPU for today's ports. And i think that situation after PS4 Pro and Scorpio are released will be even worse!
This is madness!
Pop On Arrival
Banned
so for those with 1070s or at least an i5 6600k equivalent, has anyone figured out a way to make the run consistently above 60 frames? I don't care if I have to turn shit to low. I wanna enjoy the gameplay a little bit and try to ignore the performance issues. if only i can get a consistent 60.
N1ghtW4lk3R
Member
What the fuck are you talking about? FH3 is an amazing game with an outstanding graphics. Of curse it still has some problems here and there but the situation is much better now than the release day.
Dishonored 2 is simply....dishonorable
We're at launch day for this game as well, Horizon 3 was a shitshow for weeks and it still pretty mediocre right now.
dgrdsv
Member
Pro and Scorpio (based on what we know about it right now) don't add anything but GPU processing power, and PC is already way ahead of both console upgrades in this. Average framerates will be lower because shaders will be more complex but they won't affect PC ports negatively because there's no reason for them to.
NeoRaider
Member
It will, trust me. Because many developer will care ever less about the PC ports with more raw power available in new consoles.
dreamer3kx
Member
So sick of these poorly optimized games that I would like to enjoy, so many recently, whats going on here?
dgrdsv
Member
You don't need to care about shaders when porting to PC, they are basically the same as on consoles. Most issues in PC ports of late are coming from lack of attention to resource streaming / management (console UMA vs PC NUMA basically) and some peculiar CPU usage decisions (some devs seems to think that it's ok to just dump the whole console game on 1 PC CPU core or something), they are not in any way GPU relevant (well, beyond the lack of optimization for non-AMD GPUs in some titles but that's completely understandable).
N1ghtW4lk3R
Member
From what I see we played 2 different games. FH3 always performed pretty well on my rig with 60fps cap from day1.
Darkstorne
Member
Eh? The vast majority of sales will be on console, and unless those versions have major performance issues 95%+ of this game's players won't even be aware of an engine change.
Just booted the game.
Set everything confidently to Ultra and i get 50s to 40s in the initial area. Just walked outside and i get 11fps. What madness is this?
Also there is a slight stuttering that is weird, and when running inside i would drop almost to 30s. Man... with my rig i should be able to run this no problem. Any tips?
BTW. running this at 1080p because 4k breaks the game right now. I can't even imagine how 4k would hold haha. 1fps?
Wrestlemania
Banned
Played it briefly last night. Other than frame rate issues, has anyone noticed that turning with a pad feels really off?
Yea, there is a slight stutter.
icecold1983
Member
judging by the demo, forza horizon 3 on pc is trash
Twinsen343
Member
This has the same 'engine' feel that wolfenstein did.
It's awefull the stuttering to the point it's not worth playing until fixed.
It's awefull the stuttering to the point it's not worth playing until fixed.
Agreed. It seems like perhaps there's optimisation for specific CPU cache sizes or behaviour on the console hardware and some developers on some projects just do none of that for the PC port. Or, they're so pushed for time and resource that it's a quick and dirty implementation to meet the ship date and maybe once those engineers have had their post-crunch holiday, they re-visit the PC code and improve it.
Whatever's going on, it's happening so frequently this year alone that staying away from PC console ports for 6 weeks at least is getting to be par for the course. It's not like new PC APIs are to blame, because this is happening for games written against very mature APIs too.
You have a magic PC.
With my same rig i can run FH3 at 4k with SMAAx4 everything cranked up and keep a steady 60fps. I will only drop in the city and that is to 55. So how is this game trash?
Dishonored im getting 11fps. ELEVEN!
The game looks technically dated compared to most big games these days. It has nice art like the first one but the game looks nowhere near good enough to warrant this kind of performance. Breaks my goddamn heart because I was really looking forward to this. Unless they somehow patch this really quickly I will give my money this month to another game.
Pop On Arrival
Banned
Just booted the game.
Set everything confidently to Ultra and i get 50s to 40s in the initial area. Just walked outside and i get 11fps. What madness is this?
Also there is a slight stuttering that is weird, and when running inside i would drop almost to 30s. Man... with my rig i should be able to run this no problem. Any tips?
I wanna know this too, but I dont wanna use my 20 hour gameplay refund time tinkering with their fucking shitty graphics. I wanna know what I can turn down doesn't matter as long as it's not all very low or some shit.
BriareosGAF
Member
You guys are way off-base, the generation of efficient GPU microcode is the number one focus on console this generation, in order to get maximal hardware utilization. As a result we pursue tons of techniques that leverage microcode intrinsics (to achieve scalarization for better VGPR utilization) or other hardware features on the consoles (render target metadata, MSAA abuse). Then we have to spend time figuring out how to bring similar to the PC (c.f. NVIDIA and AMD), or come up with alternate schemes.
And almost no one does development of PC as a port. PC is a different build target out of the same tree for almost every studio out there, and for a majority of them the primary development platform. I don't know why the audience clings to this notion of "ports", it's nonsensical.
Did Wolfenstein get fixed?
Yes. Its an awesome game to get into now.
Well that's encouraging at least.