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[Mechazawa]

It's not the snark just the "Not most, some people are having issues" and "try lowering your settings". It's like, come on, you must've known about these problems.

Few things in this world are as sure a bet as Pete Hines being a useless ass mouthpiece for the company.

It's aggravating, but we'll all live a much happier life basically ignoring anything that dude ever says and hitting up other elements within Bethesda for basically anything else.

 

[SURGEdude]

Few things in this world are as sure a bet as Pete Hines being a useless ass mouthpiece for the company.

It's aggravating, but we'll all live a much happier life basically ignoring anything that dude ever says and hitting up other elements within Bethesda for basically anything else.

Yeah. He's almost Randy Pitchford levels of pathological.

 

[Intheflorsh]

Pete Hines is a dirtbag? Who knew!

 

[CrichtonKicks]

It's not the snark just the "Not most, some people are having issues" and "try lowering your settings". It's like, come on, you must've known about these problems.

Where did Smith say to try lowering settings? His entire twitter feed is pretty much some variation on "we are investigating now."

I'm as frustrated with the performance as anybody but so far Smith has been a class act. Hines on the other hand...

 

[GavinUK86]

wait, is he saying only 5% of people are having issues?

 

[JigglesBunny]

So both the PC and Console versions are a bust performance wise?

 

[mosdl]

The sound mix issues are way more annoying to me...

 

[Corpekata]

wait, is he saying only 5% of people are having issues?

No, in context he was saying that 95 percent of interactions with fans are people that love the game(s), so that's why he does it.

 

[CrichtonKicks]

So both the PC and Console versions are a bust performance wise?

Not sure on consoles- there isn't the overwhelming negativity that there is for PC so I'm inclined to think that the drops aren't as severe (starting from a 30 fps base there of course). It also seems that most of the discussion from people actually progressing through the game is coming from the console side while PC gamers seem inclined to shelve it until patched.

I played an hour of the PS4 Pro version and performance seemed rock solid 30 fps (with outstanding image quality) but I didn't get up to Karnaca so don't know if that holds.

 

[GavinUK86]

So both the PC and Console versions are a bust performance wise?

i've not heard anything bad about ps4 performance.

 

[Fahzgoolin]

I think PC players wouldn't complain if they expected 30fps. Ultra 30fps is attainable. It's those ultra high framerates for high refresh monitors that people like I expect. I played Dishonored 1 on 144hz and it was just such a great experience. Mouse feels bad at 30fps, but feels alright with a joystick.

 

[CHC]

So I've discovered one kind of.... "silver lining" to this PC port. The settings have VERY little visual effect. Been playing around with a lot of things and without any direct comparisons, High and Ultra are extremely similar in terms of looks.

Also, this seems good. And some context on the other tweet that is being bandied around:

 

[Tovarisc]

I played an hour of the PS4 Pro version and performance seemed rock solid 30 fps (with outstanding image quality) but I didn't get up to Karnaca so don't know if that holds.

Downsampled to 1080p monitor? Could explain outstanding IQ. I'm too afraid to downsample this game with my 980Ti, even on 1080p already getting major dips.

 

[Dmax3901]

I think PC players wouldn't complain if they expected 30fps. Ultra 30fps is attainable. It's those ultra high framerates for high refresh monitors that people like I expect. I played Dishonored 1 on 144hz and it was just such a great experience. Mouse feels bad at 30fps, but feels alright with a joystick.

30fps is not attainable on PC, if you lock it to 30fps the load times increase a hundredfold.

 

[Fahzgoolin]

30fps is not attainable on PC, if you lock it to 30fps the load times increase a hundredfold.

even if you lock it with something like RivaTuner?

 

[Dubz]

Stuck on "Installing". Is that normal on Steam?

 

[CHC]

Stuck on "Installing". Is that normal on Steam?

How stuck? It shouldn't take longer than maybe a few minutes in that phase. If all else fails just restart Steam, it's a pretty duct-taped-together application, but it will remember where you were in the installation or download the missing pieces if something went wrong.

 

[Dubz]

How stuck? It shouldn't take longer than maybe a few minutes in that phase. If all else fails just restart Steam, it's a pretty duct-taped-together application, but it will remember where you were in the installation or download the missing pieces if something went wrong.

Steam Restart worked.

Sad to see the negative reactions on PC. I've got a1070, i7 4770K, and 16GB RAM. Anyone with a similar setup have impressions?

 

[Relique]

any tips for running this on a 1070? I was really hoping to get 96fps in this but now it looks like i can't even get 60.

Anyone can recommend a settings combo to at least run this smoothly with 60fps?

 

[flipswitch]

I really, really hope they end up fixing this and don't just come out with lower/change your gtx settings and leave it at that. I'm 3hrs in, I could have gotten a refund but I didn't because I like what I've played despite the problems and was a fan of the original.

 

[epmode]

Steam Restart worked.

Sad to see the negative reactions on PC. I've got a1070, i7 4770K, and 16GB RAM. Anyone with a similar setup have impressions?

I think it runs poorly for everyone. The judder, anyway. I suspect that some people aren't as sensitive to it so they may not notice.

I really, really hope they end up fixing this and don't just come out with lower/change your gtx settings and leave it at that.

They'll have to do more than that; The wonky framerate judder is there even at the lowest settings.

 

[GavinUK86]

even if you lock it with something like RivaTuner?

yup it takes ages to load. i tried nvidia control panel half refresh rate and just rtss capped to 30fps and it had the same result.

 

[CHC]

Steam Restart worked.

Sad to see the negative reactions on PC. I've got a1070, i7 4770K, and 16GB RAM. Anyone with a similar setup have impressions?

I have the exact same setup except with a i5-2500k @ 4.4 GHz. I am playing at 2560 x 1600 on "Auto" settings, which is a mix of High and Very High. I enabled Ultra textures because it doesn't really cost anything in terms of FPS. It doesn't really dip below 50 FPS, worst has been around 45 near that gate in the lower part of Karnaca in the first mission.

However, the really bad part is the mouse. It's extremely weird and somehow tied to the FPS, so the sensitivity varies like mad. Looking around or using menus feels very sucky.

I really, really hope they end up fixing this and don't just come out with lower/change your gtx settings and leave it at that. I'm 3hrs in, I could have gotten a refund but I didn't because I like what I've played despite the problems and was a fan of the original.

I have a feeling that they will fix things up to passable degree. The first game didn't even have an FOV slider when it launched IIRC, but it was put in by popular demand. Plus the developers are active on Twitter. Check Harvey Smith's tweets and replies - he definitely cares. Giving them the benefit of the doubt while I play other games.

 

[BarelyLegalAlien]

I think PC players wouldn't complain if they expected 30fps. Ultra 30fps is attainable. It's those ultra high framerates for high refresh monitors that people like I expect. I played Dishonored 1 on 144hz and it was just such a great experience. Mouse feels bad at 30fps, but feels alright with a joystick.

But, see, 30 FPS isn't even attainable at Very Low in 1080p on my R9 290. The FPS is at Very Low and Ultra in certain scenes.

 

[Tovarisc]

even if you lock it with something like RivaTuner?

Even with RTSS.

Unlimited to 60FPS cap => Slightly slower load times than it was with unlimited FPS

60FPS to 30FPS cap => Loading into main menu took noticeably longer. Started to load save. Got bored after 2 minutes of loading screen being stuck around 60% mark, removed FPS cap and save loaded instantly.

How you even manage to tie loading times to games FPS like this?

 

[texhnolyze]

I've put about an hour into the Pro version and honestly I think it looks better than the PC version on Ultra. The image quality is sterling and textures seem less muddy as well. Makes me wonder if the settings in the PC version are bugged

That doesn't sound good. Has a console game ever look better than maxed PC version before?

Anyway, I heard it's similar to the reconstructing technique Quantum Break has.

30fps is not attainable on PC, if you lock it to 30fps the load times increase a hundredfold.

This is insane.

 

[jrcbandit]

any tips for running this on a 1070? I was really hoping to get 96fps in this but now it looks like i can't even get 60.

Anyone can recommend a settings combo to at least run this smoothly with 60fps?

Play with settings on Very High instead of Ultra, although I bumped textures up to Ultra. Even then, you will get drops to 50-55 FPS or so if playing at 1440p. Also, I use a controller instead of the mouse because the changes in frame rate felt very off controlling with a mouse.

 

[icecold1983]

That doesn't sound good. Has a console game ever look better than maxed PC version before?

Most recent example was arkham knight. Pc version was missing AO and rain shaders

 

[Fahzgoolin]

Holy crap guys. Thanks for letting me know. That's insane about the loading times with framerate...

 

[jorimt]

i7-4770k/980 Ti, 1440p, G-Sync...

Very Low Preset/HBAO+ Off

Ultra Preset/HBAO+ On

Wha???

Also, an example of the frame pacing issue in motion, even at the very low preset (be sure to view at 1080p/60 fullscreen; I recorded it 144Hz G-Sync, so I'm not sure how well it will show up, but it's really bad in person):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuYiKtllHn0

*shrugs*

 

[Hierophant]

stop shipping broke ass games, at least reviewers will have the same experience as the players. for better or worse....

 

[ymgve]

I've got a 970 and a i5 4690k. On Medium and using the process priority tool I get 50-80 fps depending on the place (1080p). Turning Vsync off seemed to help with the sluggishness as well.
The mouse input is still.. odd, it feels like it keeps readjusting the sensitivity based on some arcane rules. But it's playable. And tbh, the game itself is awesome so far.

It is readjusting the sensitivity of the mouse according to your FPS.

 

[CrichtonKicks]

Downsampled to 1080p monitor? Could explain outstanding IQ. I'm too afraid to downsample this game with my 980Ti, even on 1080p already getting major dips.

1080p HDTV but yep.

How you even manage to tie loading times to games FPS like this?

Dragon Age: Inquistion did it too. And at least one one other game in recent years but I can't recall which offhand.

Also a different issue but equally infuriating: Mass Effect 2 tied loading time to the duration of the loading animations.

Another famous one from earlier this year: Hitting the CAPS lock key in XCOM2 dramatically decreased load times.

 

[I speel my dreenk]

Got it on Steam, using a 6600k and 970 on Windows 10. Played through the tutorial just to see how things would run, and it seemed good, but not great.

Went into the campaign, got into the first playable room, started messing with settings. Treated to my first blue screen yet on this computer, and now blue screens constantly in regular mode, even after disabling most everything I could, rolling back drivers, doing whatever it is the Windows 10 'Reset This Computer' option does, etc. Probably just going to reinstall.

Good game.

 

[ymgve]

Even with RTSS.

Unlimited to 60FPS cap => Slightly slower load times than it was with unlimited FPS

60FPS to 30FPS cap => Loading into main menu took noticeably longer. Started to load save. Got bored after 2 minutes of loading screen being stuck around 60% mark, removed FPS cap and save loaded instantly.

How you even manage to tie loading times to games FPS like this?

Fallout 4 kinda did this - in Fullscreen mode loading took 2-3x the time it would if you used Borderless Window mode.

Also I requested a refund. Will buy it back once performance is fixed.

 

[Tovarisc]

Got it on Steam, using a 6600k and 970 on Windows 10. Played through the tutorial just to see how things would run, and it seemed good, but not great.

Went into the campaign, got into the first playable room, started messing with settings. Treated to my first blue screen yet on this computer, and now blue screens constantly in regular mode, even after disabling most everything I could, rolling back drivers, doing whatever it is the Windows 10 'Reset This Computer' option does, etc. Probably just going to reinstall.

Good game.

CPU overclocked?

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I tried to DSR to 4k and take comparison pic between 1080p and 4k. When selecting 4k resolution in games options screen went black for about 10 seconds and when picture came back resolution had reverted back to 1080p.

wot

Edit: Game is blast to play, but holy shit they have screwed up tech side of things so hard

 

[Yeul]

Got it on Steam, using a 6600k and 970 on Windows 10. Played through the tutorial just to see how things would run, and it seemed good, but not great.

Went into the campaign, got into the first playable room, started messing with settings. Treated to my first blue screen yet on this computer, and now blue screens constantly in regular mode, even after disabling most everything I could, rolling back drivers, doing whatever it is the Windows 10 'Reset This Computer' option does, etc. Probably just going to reinstall.

Good game.

Yeah I got a few BSODs on my PC too and they were my first ever as well so I was like...uhhh??

 

[Tabasco]

Refunded the game until they fix these issues.

Maybe by the time they do, I can buy it on a sale. No way am I giving them my $60 for a broken port.

 

[Fahzgoolin]

Dunno if this has been posted or looked at yet, but this has some good suggestions I haven't seen yet:
Fixing Dishonored 2's FPS drops

 

[Pop On Arrival]

no blue screens so far, just the along with the massive amountsof people complaining about bad framerates and judder

and yeah, the game is so much fucking fun that it's a travesty that I'm posting here most instead of dudes just chillin' and actually talking about the game. It's what I deserved for getting hyped for a toy at 29 years old

^a lot of people have tried all those things I've turn things down all to low and still get the terrible judder and weird feeling I'm playing the game at 24fps

 

[TheFNEffecT]

Here's a not very good PS4 Pro and PC comparison, I set the game to everything on Ultra with TXAA 1x and HBAO+

PS4 Pro (Credit to Elios83)

PC (I tried to correct the FOV to match a bit better)

and at my FOV that I play on

 

[Relique]

Play with settings on Very High instead of Ultra, although I bumped textures up to Ultra. Even then, you will get drops to 50-55 FPS or so if playing at 1440p. Also, I use a controller instead of the mouse because the changes in frame rate felt very off controlling with a mouse.

Thanks I tried your settings and they worked well for the first mission but I hear the second is where the performance tanks. I'll play more tomorrow.

The game looks a bit washed and textures are quite poor up close. I am quite surprised it runs like it does given all that.

 

[renzolama]

Those twitter comments, lol. That's exactly the type of bullshit that I'll see all over forums for the next month from people who are "PC experts who know what settings mean and how to properly configure their game." You know the ones I mean, they're constantly defending developers and congratulating each other on their amazing technical prowess, utterly certain that anyone complaining about performance issues is just too fucking dumb to change a setting or install a graphics driver. Meanwhile, they almost certainly have never booted the game in question and haven't read or considered a single one of the complaints being made.

Edit: And the majority of them probably don't actually own a gaming PC

 

[Locuza]

The german site Gamestar did a technic check and made this framerate protocol which illustrates the incredible fragile performance:

Source: http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/dishonored-2-das-vermaechtnis-der-maske/artikel/dishonored_2,52378,3305144,2.html

 

[Chakan]

i7 4790k, gtx 1080, w10, 16gb.

1080P @ ultra (except shadow quality - very high). Never drops below 60 fps. With shadow quality at ultra sometimes the performance goes to 50 fps in town.

Adaptive resolution = 100%.

 

[Neptonic]

What does this stutter feel like? Is it like the micro stutter Source Engine games have?

 

[epmode]

i7 4790k, gtx 1080, w10, 16gb.

1080P @ ultra (except shadow quality - very high). Never drops below 60 fps. With shadow quality at ultra sometimes the performance goes to 50 fps in town.

Adaptive resolution = 100%.

I bet you still have the same jitter that I see at all times. I can screw with my settings to make Fraps think I'm getting a perfect 60 FPS but it still runs like crap.

What does this stutter feel like? Is it like the micro stutter Source Engine games have?

It's not something that only happens every few seconds. Fraps says 60 FPS but it looks like 40.

 

[Chakan]

I bet you still have the same jitter that I see at all times. I can screw with my settings to make Fraps think I'm getting a perfect 60 FPS but it still runs like crap.

The game is indeed poorly optimized. I had to turn on vsync because the fps kept going from 60 to 100+.

 

[epmode]

The game is indeed poorly optimized. I had to turn on vsync because the fps kept going from 60 to 100+.

The best part is when the framerate spikes affect your mouse sensitivity.

 

[Chakan]

The best part is when the framerate spikes affect your mouse sensitivity.

Agree. It feels sluggish. Even tunning the options on the menu improved nothing. Using a controller the movement feeling seems ok though.