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Disney reportedly unhappy with Rogue One

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Doesn't mean the film is shit in its current state...just means Disney doesn't like it for some reason and I wish we knew why.

I'm pretty much into whatever Edwards does after Monsters so I'm down.
 
he's got a lot of potential, yea. but why fuck around when you're choosing directors for the biggest media property ever?

Have you seen some of the directors hired on recent blockbusters? Some had zero big budget experience.

Have you seen Monsters? It's amazing what he did with a zero budget. He did everything on that movie including the FX. He's a legit talent.
 
Turns out George Lucas was under the mask and all this time you thought it was Gareth Edwards.

"It's me Disney!! It was me all along!!"

Disney Execs: "Ah, sunuvabitch. Order the reshoots."
 
To me this reads like: The director tried to make a good movie and didn't care to make it as accessible to everybody as possible, so now we have to step in and "fix" his mistakes.

Doesn't live up to EP 7, yeah, right.
 
The same Disney that was happy with how the New Xmen turned out and shipped?

Not the same Disney because that Disney you're referring to has nothing to do with and doesn't own the rights to X-Men movies. You're thinking of a different Disney..the one that looks like a Fox.
 
I doubt this has to do with the movie being bad more as it being a Gareth Edwards ass Gareth Edwards movie. In that he is avoiding the big crowd pleasing shots and scenes for as long as possible and it's rubbing people the wrong way.
 
TFA was so by the numbers and boring. This franchise is gonna get so homogenized in a way that any narrative risk is gonna been seen as an affront to the spirit of the franchise in Disney's eyes. Lame.
 
I've read somewhere that Disney is unhappy, because the movie is way too dark and brutal for Star Wars movie

That'd be disappointing.

These spin-offs should be more experimental in tone, as Disney has the main series for "family-friendly fun"

Valtýr;205161417 said:
I doubt this has to do with the movie being bad more as it being a Gareth Edwards ass Gareth Edwards movie. In that he is avoiding the big crowd pleasing shots and scenes for as long as possible and it's rubbing people the wrong way.
I forgot how awful those cutaways were in Godzilla.
 
To a point, yes. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a well-crafted dark story that fits its narrative.

The problem is when over-the-top-oppressiveness is shoe-horned into source material where is doesn't belong. Star Wars (like it or not) is a family friendly universe, and not apt for the proving grounds of Jason Voorhees. Although, I would watch the hell out of that movie.

Again, even if it were an interesting new take on the universe, Disney still wants to cram the theaters with the kiddies and crank out another billion.

Yes but it's a side story. I thought the whole point was to do things you normally wouldn't find in the numbered films. I'm all for the number films being family friendly affairs but I was hoping for a bit more from the spin offs. And when people say dark they obviously don't mean anything to ridiculous.
 
I don't believe that the problem is that the movie is bad. I think the problem is that the movie isn't safe. I like The Force Awakens but it was safe to a fault and it made Disney a lot of money. I think it's very possible that Disney has problems with the morality of the movie like Marvel did with Edgar Wright's version of Ant-Man.
 
Valtýr;205161417 said:
I doubt this has to do with the movie being bad more as it being a Gareth Edwards ass Gareth Edwards movie. In that he is avoiding the big crowd pleasing shots and scenes for as long as possible and it's rubbing people the wrong way.

This is also very possible. That angle worked for Monsters but I hated it in Godzilla even if it made sense at times. For Star Wars it wouldn't work at all. They can't really skimp on the big space battle, for example, considering it's part of the original title crawl this movie is based on.
 
I'm...kinda glad. I do NOT want Star Wars to be annual film type of series. Far more thought and effort should be put into each film. If this film under-performing gives Disney pause and makes them put more effort into Episodes VIII and IX that can only be a good thing.

Based on Godzilla, I'm betting Edward's cut spent most of the film developing bland characters we don't care about while all the best action is saved for the last half hour.
 
Well, Godzilla was pretty bad...

And the only thing good about "Monsters" is the fact that it was made on an incredibly small budget. Aside from that, it sucked
 
Trailer looked like a shitty self-serious EU novel for edgelords in movie form, so anything to move it away from that and towards something actually watchable is a plus.
 
As a casual fan, I thought the trailer looked really good.

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I've read somewhere that Disney is unhappy, because the movie is way too dark and brutal for Star Wars movie.

If that rumor is true, then damn.

This sounds plausible to me. Movie is set in the darkest period of the Star Wars universe and the trailer didn't exactly seem cheery. Massive reshoots could be bad, could be good. I'm leaning towards bad.
 
They probably demanded reshoots because they saw a Gungan in the background or they said the word Kamino or something.

Or, they think the scene where Darth Vader arrives and kills almost every rebel except Jyn is too dark for the kids.

God, I hope that scene exists.
 
I don't believe that the problem is that the movie is bad. I think the problem is that the movie isn't safe. I like The Force Awakens but it was safe to a fault and it made Disney a lot of money. I think it's very possible that Disney has problems with the morality of the movie like Marvel did with Edgar Wright's version of Ant-Man.

Edgar Wright left because he didn't want to work in the 'producer centric' environment that Marvel operates.

Disney will never do a 'dark and gritty' Star Wars when it's a cornerstone brand of theirs alongside Frozen etc, etc.

There is too much money to be made for this ever to be the case.
 
I would be interested to see how Disney would tackle something like The Old Republic or a character like Darth Revan. Some dark shit can go down in those games and the focus is decidedly less kid friendly. Would almost work better as a mini series or something along those lines. They seem buddy buddy with Netflix so lets see it Disney.
 
I liked episode 7 and Godzilla, so I am really pumped for this.

Reshooting. It could mean the movie has pacing or story issues... Or more likely the movie was too dark for Disney.

Either way, I trust in their abilities to deliver a quality film. Hope they don't remove anything cool from the movie to lower the age rating or get better responses from families though. I was, and still am, looking forward to a brutal story.
 
It seemed they wanted to make it like a war film, but Disney instead wants more kid-friendly Star Wars-ey.


Yeah sad if true. Wanted to see SW from different lenses for once. Not just dancing alien bands. Typical Disney avengers 2 treatment. Guess jokes every five seconds is wanted.
 
For all the peeps making the "high bar" jokes, i think it's obvious that they mean a high bar in expectations. Which after TFA doing record numbers, is absolutely true.
 
It's a Gareth Edwards movie, so I imagine the problem is the dramatic scenes are all pretty flat.

They probably didn't like that there's only 20 minutes of action scenes, and you can only watch one of them via news report on a tv in Mon Mothma's living room.
 
Bet its being neutered. This is my greatest fear for the rest of the mainline trilogy. The good guys are just going to steam roll in all 3 movies.
 
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