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DmC DLC!!! (Play as Vergil)
- Thread starter rockman zx
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I imagine we'll hear approximately equal amounts of comments in both directions.
Infinite Justice
Member
Not really since whatever side will deem it glorious.
I have trouble believing that game development works in exactly the assembly line that you've illustrated, especially considering that DLC content is decided in the planning stages.
Even so, I'd rather the portions of the team move onto other projects than work on DLC pre-release. I think that extras, if worked on pre-release should be included in the game. If the budget doesn't allow for it, then the budget doesn't allow for it.
Again, this is my opinion. And yes, it's my ideal world that doesn't exist because we're in a progressively anti-consumer industry.
Saint Gregory
Member
I have no complaints about the number of characters in SFxT nor in DmC. Capcom is free to do whatever they want with their development resources and content that they choose to release.
My problem with SFxT, DmC and increasingly with Capcom's decisions as a whole is that they chose 38 characters for SFxT and then characters that everyone wanted most (like Elena) or characters that had been staples of previous games (like Lei and Sakura) magically became on disc DLC. In the case of this game they take Virgil, a character fans of the game had been clamoring for, and make him day one exclusive retailer DLC.
Fine, but I choose to vote with my wallet. I routinely double-dipped and sometimes even tripple-dipped on Capcom games in the past to own them on all platforms and bought DLC costumes and such but starting with SFxT I only bough the PC version, on sale, and none of the DLC. I may or may not buy the PC version of DmC even though I had planned on buying the PS3 version day one. It's not that I don't want to enjoy these games or that I want them to fail, it's just that I don't want to continue to follow Capcom down this road anymore. There's nothing inherently wrong with DLC but Capcom's found ways to make it feel very wrong during this gen.
All that I ask is that the champions of these practices to ask themselves why it's more profitable for Capcom to divert resources to concurrent DLC development rather than to the development of new games.
It doesn't matter.
If the game is great then we actually have a good DMC game to look forward to. Naturally if it's good we will see combo videos popping up and that gets me hyped.
If it's ass then we can watch meltdowns and bust out the popcorn. I am sure some people will make videos showcasing glitches/bugs found in the demo.
In addition, the discussion around here will actually have some merit and we can actually start talking about the game play more in depth. DLC talk is boring.
This entire thread is a spoiler along with the video posted in the OP. The final boss was already spoiled in the achievement list.
The Judgment Cut he used was lifted from Dante's version in DMC4, for some reason.
lol, exactly what I was thinking. Final Boss Vergil is going to have a good portion of the moves seen in the trailer, probably with doppelganger/shadows.
Snapshot King
Member
He's implying that even as a joke question it's not really that good because they could hazard a random guess and turn out to be right and then you'd look like an asshole, but you seem to be a few steps ahead of that on your own.
Pretty much.
I got your statement and question... it was just a poor rhetoric.
I'm sincerely hoping for the former. Though I'm convinced that a number of people will be pissed off about what it is not, instead of what IS there.
Snapshot King
Member
Personally I'm looking forward to surprised impressions on both sides. The "it wasn't as bad as I thought" and "this really isn't as good as I wanted it to be" impressions will be by far the best. That is if people can swallow their pride and admit they may have gone too far one way or another in the past.
robotzombie
Member
Well those are points I can't disagree with. I also understand they made very intentional character choices, which can be seen as intentional baiting, and I also find that pretty crappy. But again, I don't really think its totally unfair as they provided everyone with all the info they needed to make a purchase decision.
No way man... the polar opposite impressions are going to be the best ones.
"DmC trumps every DMC game before it. Day 1 all over my face. NT am gods!"
"DmC is fucking ass! NT doesn't deserve to make games anymore. MGR and Bayo 2 will shit all over this. 60fpsPGKamiya etc"
Also SFxT was ass because of the whole gem fiasco. The character DLC was more salt on the wounds. The entire structure of the post release content was horrendously bad. No one can defend that anti-consumer bull crap... I don't care if SFxT was the most expensive game Capcom had put there was no excuse for that.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Seriously. We have people who's entire intention of buying the game is so they can convince others not to. I can only imagine what they will say when they play the demo. Oh yeah, demo sucks. Don't buy it. White hair something something.
I'll own up to it sucking if that turns out to be the case. But I'm not expecting many of the others on the opposite end of the spectrum to do the same.
"It's still 30FPS! It's terrible on this basis alone!"
So do I, so do I.
Snapshot King
Member
I fully expect to go from hating the game and everything about it to just being kind of tired and mildly disappointed personally. But I really, really want to be made to look like a childish cretin and be proven wrong.
Supermanisdead
Member
I wonder how crazy that demo thread is going to get. Never has a demo been so important.
You are sounding as bad as the game journalists.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
If you were going to support it, which indicates you've already established the concept of getting the game, wouldn't you just pre-order the game and get the DLC for free? Unless of course you live somewhere in which the promotion isn't offered.
Or, maybe you just dislike the concept of DLC altogether, despite the fact it's offerred...for free. But then, we're now talking about voting for a dollar...guys it's just DLC. The core game that interested you two days ago is still the same core game. We're not debating the implications of a nuclear Iran here. Relax.
robotzombie
Member
You seem to have been personally hurt and offended by what I said. I don't know why, and don't even remember commenting towards you so I'm not sure how that happened. As it stands, my point was legitimate. The guy says a game sucks that he didn't play, a statement I found funny and responded in kind.
Snapshot King
Member
Yknow considering I'm the guy who said that first part, and everything on this page is me talking about how I'm going to try and give it a fair shake and hope to be proven wrong, and have never said anything about the white hair at all, that's kind of disingenuous to imply LHK. Cmon man.
Yeah, and you jumped down Dahbombs throat for making a valid point in return. The idea that you had to hurt my feelings for me to realize your post was dickish is weird, as well.
They are going really hard for the feel of a CW tv show.
Ugh.
He look much more 'classic' in the trailer. They probably changed the design somewhat since then.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
God your stupid. Relax. Take a joke - I'm well aware of the white hair jokes. This isn't my first DMC thread in the past 11 years I assure you.
Forza Horizon is 30 fps, and it's hella fast
/cringes
Dahbomb, would you like to make the demo thread or should I?
this video shows off some of the move list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBHpqkMGGG0
this video shows off some of the move list.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBHpqkMGGG0
Oh my goodness...my sides.
Matt Lanter from 90210 is also playing Vergil. He's also Anakin Skywalker in the Clone Wars tv series.
You can make the demo thread if I get to make the OT.
Someone needs to practice what they preach.
I think someone else already claimed it. You can try talking to the guy.
Goon Boon
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450653
Snapshot King
Member
It sure isn't, but you weren't as frustrated and continually as upset in those others. Maybe you need to relax bro, it seems to be getting to you.
Saint Gregory
Member
Not to beat this issue to death but remember that they initially hid the fact that the characters were on disc in the PS360 version of the game. Thankfully I found out in time to make an informed decision but a lot of people didn't.
RoboGeorgeForeman
Banned
I'd be annoyed if I was actually interested in this game, but given Ninja Theory's track record I'm not even going to think about touching this game until it hits bargain bin prices.
It is a little discouraging that this practice is becoming commonplace though. I hope they don't try to pull this with Monster Hunter.
It is a little discouraging that this practice is becoming commonplace though. I hope they don't try to pull this with Monster Hunter.
Snapshot King
Member
It was hard for me not to point it out but LHK seems really mad about all this so it's best not to poke fun.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I can assure you that my god is not stupid.
Da faq you have to officially claim OTs now?
Goon Boon if you are listening we need to settle this mano e mano. As the maker of the DMC3 OT, DMC4 OT and part of the DMC HD OT I feel like we should discuss this.
Infinite Justice
Member
robotzombie
Member
As a general rule, I don't often run into people who call someone an asshole over a joke they made towards someone else entirely unless thy were somehow personally offended. That's fine if that's just your nature I guess. I also don't remember jumping down a throat, nor responding to a valid point by dahbomb.
I couldn't help but chuckle.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Kagari said:
Framerate has nothing to do with "game speed." A developer can make it however fast or slow that they want to irregardless of whatever framerate it runs at.