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DmC Worth It? / Also: Any Chance of Sequel?
- Thread starter Darkmakaimura
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This. Bayonetta is actually good and more of a successor to Devil May Cry than DmC was. Also its probably as cheap if not cheaper than Heavenly Sword 2.. erm i mean DmC.
TheSpoiler
Member
DMC3 has color coded enemies? DMC4 has restrictive gameplay?
At least point out such complaints instead of driving by. It does wonders for discussion.
.la1n
Member
Story and art design are a love it or hate it thing but the game play itself (the important part in action games) is pretty solid. For the right price I'd say it's well worth the investment, especially if you enjoyed the demo. I do not think we will see a sequel done by Ninja Theory, the game didn't sell as well as Capcom hoped. I am not even sure we will see a sequel from Capcom or anyone else in the near future.
There's a lot to enjoy and a lot to dislike. Personally I loved the characters and voice acting (when I wasn't a fan of OG Dante) and the art style was interesting for a lot of the time. There are a bunch of bad sections though (that look ugly or are a chore) and the game play gets repetitive at points.
Worst purchase of the year for me. Labeling it as Devil may Cry and implying that it is anywhere near the quality of true DMC games is like buying a steak from Outback, burning it to a crisp, and then trying to pass it off as a Ruth's Chris.
Terrible, terrible game. Gimped, over simplified combat, garbage tier character design, and somehow sub-garbage tier writing.
Terrible, terrible game. Gimped, over simplified combat, garbage tier character design, and somehow sub-garbage tier writing.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
My memory is hazy but the way you crisscross and backtrack through some of the environments in 1 and 3 lends a feeling of non-linearity. Certainly not to the degree of a metroidvania, though.
CambriaRising
Member
I really enjoyed it, even as a DMC fan. You are going to get a lot of people saying it is shit, but it's not.
SturokBGD
Member
If you play on PC, Green Man Gaming have Steam keys for DmC for $12.49 with an additional $2.49 off with coupon code GMG20-ZB5D1-93X49. Worth it for $10 I'd say.
Jawmuncher
Member
DmC bombed as much as Tomb Raider bombed.
They both sold fine just under the predicted forecasts that either company wanted.
Also before I get called out on it I KNOW that DmC didn't sell as much as TR. Still last I recall it broke a million in sales at the least.
As for you OP if the metroidvania type stuff in earlier DMC is what you liked DmC has none of that. Still I say it's worth a play. The game is very polarizing here on GAF so you honestly just have to give it a go yourself. Which shouldn't be hard to do the game is dirt cheap now. 20 or less.
They both sold fine just under the predicted forecasts that either company wanted.
Also before I get called out on it I KNOW that DmC didn't sell as much as TR. Still last I recall it broke a million in sales at the least.
As for you OP if the metroidvania type stuff in earlier DMC is what you liked DmC has none of that. Still I say it's worth a play. The game is very polarizing here on GAF so you honestly just have to give it a go yourself. Which shouldn't be hard to do the game is dirt cheap now. 20 or less.
They're two very different games. I loathed the original series for exactly the reasons you seemed to like them, heh. DmC is pretty much God of War.
TheSpoiler
Member
Is there a demo for the PC version? I can't remember. He should see if it runs alright and go for it there with the codes above.
badcrumble
Member
I don't think it makes sense to describe the combat system in a game as linear or nonlinear. Linearity isn't really a concept that applies. Yes, there's a lot of *freedom* to do as you will in the combat.
But when it comes down to the overall broad structure of the game, DMC games have always been set up in chapters/missions presented to you in a strictly linear order.
You know, when I'm playing a hack and slash, I like being able to focus my attacks on whatever it is that I'm trying to fight at that moment. It helps to have something like, say, a lock-on mechanic in those situations.
DmC, for some reason, doesn't have any kind of lock-on mechanic. It may not seem like a big deal, and it very well may not be for some players, but it was a real pain in the ass for me. I want to know that I'm fighting the enemy I'm trying to fight, and not whatever the game thinks I am.
DmC, for some reason, doesn't have any kind of lock-on mechanic. It may not seem like a big deal, and it very well may not be for some players, but it was a real pain in the ass for me. I want to know that I'm fighting the enemy I'm trying to fight, and not whatever the game thinks I am.
badcrumble
Member
That thing you're implying, that a game is owed sales by anybody at all? It's not true.
What do you mean?
I have just started playing and I do not find it to be that bad.
The biggest issue I find have to do with Angel/Demon modes. I think those could have been better handled as they currently make the combat much more clunky than it should be.
And the lack of auto-target is bullshit.
People didn't like the direction they took the game and voted with their wallets. Sounds about right to me.
TheSpoiler
Member
I mean DmC is more restrictive than the previous games, even at a base level.
The A/D shit forces you to use weapons you may not want to use to beat them, because the game says "well, you need to use this to win!" Prior to that, the DMC games just let you use whatever. Some weapons would be more effective depending on the situation, but they wouldn't outright cripple you.
I'm sure some don't mind, but some kinda wanted that freedom to use whatever you want in any situation. That alone made the experience really sour for me. I don't want to use Hulk Fists!
The game was OK. But was it great? No. Did it feel like a DMC? No. Did the gameplay add anything new to the series except the shitty unnecessary platforming and weird weapon switching? No.
Will we get a sequel? I hope not. Its time for old uncle Dante to return.
That's not completely true. The A/D system, if fixed, could be a cool Style choice in the future. Like one does less damage but is faster, and one does more damage but is slower, and certain enemies respond better to different types, but the game doesn't completely say fuck you when you want to use something else.
I want Styles back, now that I think about it. Switchable styles in a next gen system. Please let my Christmas wish come true!
It's a totally fine game. Nothing special one way or the other. Uninspired. Most of its best story ideas come from John Carpenter's They Live. And its gameplay ideas are all familiar rehashes of earlier DMC games mixed with cheap God of War knock offs (like Dante's Inferno).
For me, there are too many great games out there to bother with mediocre ones. I put in a few hours and then shelved it.
For me, there are too many great games out there to bother with mediocre ones. I put in a few hours and then shelved it.
If you want to blame someone, blame the casuals that didn't give a single fuck about DmC. Because Capcom was going after them, and failed.
Also, the PC version is good. Cheap, it looks fantastic and 60 fps as DMC was meant to be.
edit: if you haven't played Bayonetta yet, GET IT. It's basically the real sequel to DMC4.
Jawmuncher
Member
As I always say at least DMC fans got something to make up for DMC 2 (Games 3 and 4) and got something that while they may not like isn't near the travesty of Dino Crisis 3.
Outright Villainy
Member
I thought it was great fun, and if you liked the demo then there's a good chance you'll like it throughout. It's a very different game to the originals though, would have been a lot better off as its own thing.
It's okay. The combat and enemy design elements range from mediocre to terrible, but it looks very pretty and avoids some of the more frustrating aspects of previous entries. The story is of roughly the same caliber as the other games (ie: awful), but lacks the series' charm and sense of humor.
You probably won't see a sequel to DmC; at least not one by Ninja Theory. Get it on PC where the framerate isn't locked at 30fps and some of the game's problems can be addressed with mods.
Yes, damn them for not buying something they didn't want.
You probably won't see a sequel to DmC; at least not one by Ninja Theory. Get it on PC where the framerate isn't locked at 30fps and some of the game's problems can be addressed with mods.
Yes, damn them for not buying something they didn't want.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Look, i dont want to sound like a dick, but there's a ton of differences between the two series mechanically. If you think they're the same then I guess you'll have a ton of fun, but it's also apparent that you didn't play DMC much.
Stone Ocean
Member
It's definitely worth it for cheap. As others have said, PC is the way to go if you can.
And I think hell will freeze over before Capcom bothers with the IP again.
And I think hell will freeze over before Capcom bothers with the IP again.
ShockingAlberto
Member
It's worth it cheap, under $20.
I did a video review, but the summary is basically: it's alright, but it should have been way better. If you like DMC as an action game, DmC doesn't do a good job replicating it. But that's only if you like DMC as an action game.
I did a video review, but the summary is basically: it's alright, but it should have been way better. If you like DMC as an action game, DmC doesn't do a good job replicating it. But that's only if you like DMC as an action game.
I played it recently and ended up finishing it on Normal, Son of Sparda and DMD difficulties in quick succession. Enjoyed it quite a bit to be honest, there are some neat environments and zero backtracking was a nice change after DMC4.
Can it rival the combat/gameplay of the previous two entries? Nope, but its still a fun game with a solid combat system.
The story and dialogue were also pretty solid and a lot less cringe worthy than what the series usually has.
Go in expecting an alternate universe take on the series and you might be pleasantly surprised. Also, don't try to compare the new Dante to the old one, just see him as a new/different character.
Can it rival the combat/gameplay of the previous two entries? Nope, but its still a fun game with a solid combat system.
The story and dialogue were also pretty solid and a lot less cringe worthy than what the series usually has.
Go in expecting an alternate universe take on the series and you might be pleasantly surprised. Also, don't try to compare the new Dante to the old one, just see him as a new/different character.
Jawmuncher
Member
Would GAF believe me if I said I knew someone who was basically pro at DMC 1-4 and finds DmC to be his favorite game in the series?
Did we play the same game? I seem to recall there being an entire boss fight with a thousands year old demon that told you to go fuck yourself, called your mother a whore, etc, and Dante introduced himself to said boss with "I'M YOUR PROM DATE YOU UGLY SACK OF SHIT."
Nah man, solid writing.
BurritoBushido
Member
As a hardcore DMC fan and someone who loves and misses original Dante, I still thing DmC is an incredible game.
In case you didn't know, DMC4 already has switchable styles. Dante could switch between 5 styles, 3 weapons and 3 guns on the fly.
She also mentions something about eating him and shitting him out.
Pretty sure that whole exchange was supposed to be funny, nothing serious.
I personally didn't like the Angel/Demon system. Especially when it got combined with the enemies. The whole "You can only kill blue enemies with angelic weapons and red ones with demonic weapons" was just a pain in the ass. And it made the game slower than it already was.
Nailed it. I'd go as far as to say that if you enjoyed the older DMC titles, then DmC is just plain bad by comparison. It's a ridiculous step down from DMC3 and 4, IMO.
Thankfully this game bombed and Ninja Theory has moved on to the mobile space. I don't think we'll be seeing another DMC title for a good while. Capcom's focusing on mobile too and the team that made the previous DMC games are on other things (Dragon's Dogma, etc..).
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
If you liked the demo, then go for it. Will it get a sequel? It sold 1.2 million in a year when it was supposed to sell 2 million within 3 months. I'd say no.
My favorite has always been the first one. The new DMC is my 2nd favorite.
The first game has great atmosphere and music, but it pales in comparison to DMC3 and 4 in gameplay.