Or get kicked 5 days after winning the biggest esports prizepool ever
What about muscle memory? Reflexes seem like a fairly obvious thing that would deteriorate, but do you also start losing the ability to learn, basically? Or do you just take longer to learn than you would if you were younger?
I don't understand the reference.
Did that happen recently?
What about muscle memory? Reflexes seem like a fairly obvious thing that would deteriorate, but do you also start losing the ability to learn, basically? Or do you just take longer to learn than you would if you were younger?
It takes longer to learn completely new things, but you're better at learning other things when you can leverage your existing experience.
Fighting games, which is arguable the type of competitive games that require the largest amount of muscle memory, have older players compared to other esport scenes.
You have a guy like Justin Wong there, who's one of the most famous fighting game players, and also one of the older ones ( 29 years ). But he always picks up new fighting games extremely fast, dude dominated the first street fighter 5 tournament, which had all the big shots of street fighter 4 there.
Not sure about reflexes but skills definitely do. Both f0rest and neo are good examples.
It might be reflexes, hand-eye coordination or maybe just motivation but almost all FPS pros are under 25 when they hit their prime.Unles there something like reflexes that decrease with age, I see no reason why ones skill would decrease purely because of age, if anything it should increase as you get more experience and knowledge.
I would suspect that the biggest reason for people to perform worse as they get older, is lack of motivation, which is probably inevitable.
I'm 36 and can 1CC Ketsui, Dodonpachi, DDP Resurrection, and Pink Sweets (Remix). I am also one of the best Pikmin 3 Treasure Mission Mode players on three maps, according to the rankings. Perhaps Pikimin has as much to do with spatial cognition. I'm not sure.
Also, I know these skills are going to deteriorate--relatively soon. :-(
It might be reflexes, hand-eye coordination or maybe just motivation but almost all FPS pros are under 25 when they hit their prime.
Time isn't that limited when playing videogames is your jobMost likely a combination of all the possible factors. If we assume you can compensate for your reflexes deteriorating with experience and, basically, hard work, would people over 30 really be willing to put in even more time into the game than younger people so they can play on an even field? Or even if they want to, would that be possible, with all the other stuff they have to deal with in their limited time?
It takes you longer to get to the same level, and yet you have less time available (and in most cases, you don't even want to deal with that anymore), this combination probably makes the practical difference much higher than the theoretical one.
Time isn't that limited when playing videogames is your job
Their work hours are night heavy (official matches and teammates who still go to high school etc.) but I remember some CSGO pro saying they prac and play officials around 8 hours a day during the 'season'.That does make sense, but do pro players really only play 9-5 then go home and do something else? Because I see some of them streaming late at night and stuff like that, I don't think they treat it as a "regular job", if that makes sense.
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Here's a study Titled:
Over the Hill at 24: Persistent Age-Related Cognitive-Motor Decline in Reaction Times in an Ecologically Valid Video Game Task Begins in Early Adulthood
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure/image?size=large&id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0094215.g005[img]
[b]The abstract[/b]:
"Typically studies of the effects of aging on cognitive-motor performance emphasize changes in elderly populations. Although some research is directly concerned with when age-related decline actually begins, studies are often based on relatively simple reaction time tasks, making it impossible to gauge the impact of experience in compensating for this decline in a real world task. The present study investigates age-related changes in cognitive motor performance through adolescence and adulthood in a complex real world task, the real-time strategy video game StarCraft 2. In this paper we analyze the influence of age on performance using a dataset of 3,305 players, aged 16-44, collected by Thompson, Blair, Chen & Henrey [1]. Using a piecewise regression analysis, we find that age-related slowing of within-game, self-initiated response times begins at 24 years of age. We find no evidence for the common belief expertise should attenuate domain-specific cognitive decline. Domain-specific response time declines appear to persist regardless of skill level. A second analysis of dual-task performance finds no evidence of a corresponding age-related decline. Finally, an exploratory analyses of other age-related differences suggests that older participants may have been compensating for a loss in response speed through the use of game mechanics that reduce cognitive load."
[img]http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure/image?size=large&id=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0094215.g003[img]
[url=]http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0094215[/url][/QUOTE]
This is a worthless study.
bj00rn_'s test method seems like a much better representation of what this thread is asking.
Jwong is already 29?
It might be reflexes, hand-eye coordination or maybe just motivation but almost all FPS pros are under 25 when they hit their prime.
At 26 or so you realize you can't play videogames for a living.
Just did this reaction test again:
http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime
posting the same times I did a few years ago, and from a few years before that. I get around a 2.3 when I focus, I'm 28 btw
edit: test do show they lower with age though, but I think constant video gaming helps me keep mines around the same.
I get 347ms. 29 btw. Not bad for someone whos had a lot of concussions! Better than my 450 or so I had around this time last year!! Improvement bitches!!
WHAT I THINK:
I think seeing a lack of 30+ year olds in MLG has nothing to do with reflexes, and more to do with an adults evolution towards pushing for the next step in our short lives. Whether that's family and/or work.
The older you get the more responsible we have to be, which leaves less time for gaming - in which case yeah reflexes deteriorate when you don't use them as often.
Oh shit I laughed way too much at that.First Post!