speculawyer
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Yes, definitely. Mars.
The real question is will humanity get to other stars.
The real question is will humanity get to other stars.
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Do you think humans will really colonize other planets?
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DeathNote said:
7-If humanity is still around when our star 'dies' it will be in a form completely unaffected by such an event.
By the time we arrive at interstellar spaceships our biomedical technology is going to have completely transformed us. Scientific progress isn't an isolated phenomena. You have to imagine that progress projected across every field of human endeavor.
Academician Provost Zakharlog
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FUCK YOU @ all who say that humans don't deserve to colonize other planets!
We are awesome and deserve everything we can get. Our race and our technological advances in just 200 years time are astonishing and we definetly deserve to leave a mark on this galaxy.
You can go die on this planet, but I long for adventure like none before.
Our race united, making a difference on the face of the universe. Maybe it's only my hopes and dreams. But deep inside me, I know we can stand together, eliminate all threats to us and neither time nor space shall be our master, only us.
We are awesome and deserve everything we can get. Our race and our technological advances in just 200 years time are astonishing and we definetly deserve to leave a mark on this galaxy.
You can go die on this planet, but I long for adventure like none before.
Our race united, making a difference on the face of the universe. Maybe it's only my hopes and dreams. But deep inside me, I know we can stand together, eliminate all threats to us and neither time nor space shall be our master, only us.
If light is the fastest thing something can possibly travel, then no. Even if we were to somehow be able to travel at light speed, space is too big it would render that practically worthless. there would be no point.
unless there is some kind of fundamental change in physics as we know it, I don't thnk we're going anywhere. Its like wondering if the penguins will ever leave their icy hell habitats so they dont have to huddle in crowds for months. No. Not gonna happen.
for anything special to happen, we need to ditch science and get back to studying magic.
unless there is some kind of fundamental change in physics as we know it, I don't thnk we're going anywhere. Its like wondering if the penguins will ever leave their icy hell habitats so they dont have to huddle in crowds for months. No. Not gonna happen.
for anything special to happen, we need to ditch science and get back to studying magic.
Not for a long time... If we can't take care of the Earth with it's abundant resources, it's going to be much harder to essentially start from scratch on a barren wasteland and have to do terraforming and whatever other processes are needed to make things livable. Still, I can't really say, because the rate at which technology is accelerating is phenomenal, so the future is nearly impossible to predict.
I actually don't think humans will colonize other planets. Given that Mars is relatively close compared to other planets with conditions in which humans could potentially survive in, we sure don't have the will to go there. I mean, how are we going to colonize a planet if people arent even willing to visit? Sure I guess if the means of travel were improved, we will. But until a large enough group of astronauts or whatever step onto Mars... NAY!
Plus I dont think moving to another planet will ever happen unless you're talking about a mass movement millions going to Mars at the same time.
Plus I dont think moving to another planet will ever happen unless you're talking about a mass movement millions going to Mars at the same time.
alr1ghtstart said:
Huh? That doesn't mean anything. THe point is that you build a structure that could make it possible. I think something like this or space colonies is crucial for the far future, based on over population. Life expectancy is expected to rise steadily... what happens when we have cures for things like heart disease, cancers, etc.? Where will everyone go?
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i don't think so. and i don't really care...
would i like to see other planets? sure. but this planet is fine with me.
would i like to see other planets? sure. but this planet is fine with me.
actually if aliens somehow come and take us away, we might be able to then, but it would be like giving sperm in a clinic, you aint gonna see those babies again and if you do, they dont mean much to you really.
and I happen to think aliens coming to earth is statisically unrealistic, considering how many planets are out there and how small and insignificant we are. stick a message in a bottle and throw it in the sea. chances of someone finding x however many million = aliens finding us.
and I happen to think aliens coming to earth is statisically unrealistic, considering how many planets are out there and how small and insignificant we are. stick a message in a bottle and throw it in the sea. chances of someone finding x however many million = aliens finding us.
kaizoku said:
I've heard this thousands of times, but wouldn't it be expected for a civilization that reached space colonization to have exponentially better search equipment? And supposing their knowledge of geology, astronomy, cosmology, etc, also evolved, they'd know where to search for what.
We only recently started venturing into the science of the cosmos, we shouldn't make suppositions like those. But i guess the same is valid as well to mine.
I don't really have an answer to that question, either, but it makes me sad, I'll never get to know.
Would someone of you take the chance to be frozen and get woken up again as soon as we have colonized another planet (assuming you would have the possibility to do so) - even if it would take ... maybe 5.000 years?
Would someone of you take the chance to be frozen and get woken up again as soon as we have colonized another planet (assuming you would have the possibility to do so) - even if it would take ... maybe 5.000 years?
DjangoReinhardt
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I think it's just a matter of time. I don't think it's a goal worthy of serious pursuit yet.
Once humans achieve the ability to live for extraordinary long periods of time, it will happen much easier.
Right now, our lifetimes are a little on the short side to make travelling anywhere in the universe very difficult, but once we start attaining life spans into the 100s or 1000s of years, it wont be nearly as difficult as you wont have to worry about your crew dying off in transit.
Lets face it, the length of time humans have been around isn't even a blink in the overall scheme of things, only time and evolution will change that. Hell look how fast we've advanced in the past few 100 years and even faster more recently.
Right now, our lifetimes are a little on the short side to make travelling anywhere in the universe very difficult, but once we start attaining life spans into the 100s or 1000s of years, it wont be nearly as difficult as you wont have to worry about your crew dying off in transit.
Lets face it, the length of time humans have been around isn't even a blink in the overall scheme of things, only time and evolution will change that. Hell look how fast we've advanced in the past few 100 years and even faster more recently.
elitehebrew
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Jibril said:
only because religion
ezrarh said:
What if evolution is true, but we´re the descendants of a former human race that got wiped out by ferocious alien-beasts, but these original humans sent space ships into space that returned to earth later on, giving us a second chance? That way we´d be both.
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It wont happen, because it´d be awesome. And human society won´t be doing stuff that´s awesome. Im still baffled that CERN got approved, but exploring space is, probably, a lot more expensive.
I could now go into full rant-mode, because of how fucking ridiculous it is that something essential was the attempt to increase our understanding of the world and the universe is only restricted....by money. >_<
Really makes me go all out and damn money itself. Without it, we could create a society that just works for science, increasing our knowledge, granting us new "abilities" and so on. But no, all we´re bothering with are economy and getting trivial jobs. FFS. >_<
Atramental
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AVATAR actually. That unobtanium can't harvest itself you know. :lolMr. Sam said:
But yeah, Fight Club fits as well.
Synth_floyd
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It won't happen for a long, long time, if ever. How are people on other planets going to produce energy and food? How are you going to get all the building material to the other planets? It's so expensive right now to even get a rocket in space, that right now it's impossible. We need some kind of energy or technological revolution to make it even feasible.
BocoDragon
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I always see planet colonization threads and I'm always amazed by how people think it's some inevitable future benchmark of our greatness.. We're always talking in terms of "dragging our heels" towards this "inevitable future". People say things like "we aren't ready" in regards to how good we are, in comparison to how we measure up to this popular fantasy of being an interstellar race of peace. It really is a byproduct of our 20th century science worship/space race/science fiction-shaped minds. It is undeniably a fantasy.
What if humans don't end up ever making it to other stars? Does this trouble you. What about a humble existence on Earth? What's wrong with that? Is the grass greener in some interstellar Star Trek fantasy rather than a this existence we know and is very likely to continue?
I think humanity is worthwhile even without conquering the stars.... and I don't think that this space future is inevitable at all. Where's the profit?
What if humans don't end up ever making it to other stars? Does this trouble you. What about a humble existence on Earth? What's wrong with that? Is the grass greener in some interstellar Star Trek fantasy rather than a this existence we know and is very likely to continue?
I think humanity is worthwhile even without conquering the stars.... and I don't think that this space future is inevitable at all. Where's the profit?
I'm fine with us dominating and conquering every other species on this planet. I'm not great humanitarian or anything. But the very notion of spreading ignorance throughout the solar system, much less the rest of the cosmos, to be revolting. Mankind won't change. And sadly, though you and I may love sci-fi and wish to travel the stars, neither of us will live long enough to see the advances that make that possible. Hell, we'll probably be wiped out by an asteroid long before then. And good riddance, we're just a destructive blip in this planet's lifespan. PEACE.Des0lar said:
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We will destroy ourselves and our planet before we manage to reach beyond our solar system.
The way I see it, science out post will establish in Mars like we do in Antarctica until a valuable mineral is discovered. And then serious for-profit colonization will begin. And then its 3 way race between the Americans, European and the Asian coalition (mostly Chinese).
I think humanity can survive a nuclear holocaust, maybe it will delay the science and technology for 50 years, 100 years. But it will definitely accelerate aerospace advancement. So Mars colonization will continue even after WW3.
Just like the early American immigrants, the early Mars colonists will be religious people. We probably won't see atmosphere terraforming since oxygen mask is so much cheaper. They probably can simplify it to just oxygen tubes to the nose. Once Mars have enough population, there will be independence movement to establish a government. And then I will pick one of the good Heinlein Juvenile Universe to continue the time life.
I think humanity can survive a nuclear holocaust, maybe it will delay the science and technology for 50 years, 100 years. But it will definitely accelerate aerospace advancement. So Mars colonization will continue even after WW3.
Just like the early American immigrants, the early Mars colonists will be religious people. We probably won't see atmosphere terraforming since oxygen mask is so much cheaper. They probably can simplify it to just oxygen tubes to the nose. Once Mars have enough population, there will be independence movement to establish a government. And then I will pick one of the good Heinlein Juvenile Universe to continue the time life.
itsinmyveins
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Am I the only one who thinks humanity is improving? I mean sure, there's a lot of fucked up things going on in the world, but at the same time there's a lot of work being done to improve on social issues, environmental issues, relations between nations and etc. That being said, it's gonna take some time before we are able to colonize other planets.
Mango Positive
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The movie Pandorum, while basically an "Alien" style monster movie, does tackle the concept of colonization. It's certainly not high-art, but there's some interesting concepts relating to the logistics of it all.
My hope is that a benevolent race sees our potential and helps us out a bit in the technology department, thus allowing us to either find our own planets, or hobnob with them on one of theirs.
I also hope to win the lottery and become a famous musician / dragon slayer.
My hope is that a benevolent race sees our potential and helps us out a bit in the technology department, thus allowing us to either find our own planets, or hobnob with them on one of theirs.
I also hope to win the lottery and become a famous musician / dragon slayer.
People for some weird reason love whining and complaining about how much humanity suck and deserve getting destroyed.ItsInMyVeins said:
I can't wrap my head around why it's almost as if people wish for things to get worse when really, the world is actually a pretty alright place all in all.
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