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I loved how Strange used intelligence, not brute force in order to win the day.

In fact I loved the movie. A great and respectful introduction of Doctor Strange to the big screen.
 
I enjoyed the movie. Visually it was great, acting was on point.

But a few problems I had with it:

*reminded me of Thor and Iron Man. Played it very safe, but as a consequence that also made it a very solid film.

*villians were weak.

*wouldve been nice to see more magic, besides as weapons and changing the environment/transporting in the environment.

Hopefully Dr Strange 2 tries to be more unique/etc.
 
Yeah, Strange's assistant was telling him about Rhodes's paralysis from Civil War right before he crashed. The Strange mention in Winter Soldier was just a wink to those in the know, but I guess you can justify it as Hydra... classifying a photographic memory as a superpower?

I've said before, but the word "timeline" in the context of modern pop culture is just the worst
WhatCulture seems to believe the reference was to an injury we see in Iron Man 2.

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=3JEDPnv4SYg
 
It's likely not either but if the injury described was a complete laceration of the spinal cord, that would fit Rhodes exactly. I can't remember how it was described to Strange.
 
It's likely not either but if the injury described was a complete laceration of the spinal cord, that would fit Rhodes exactly. I can't remember how it was described to Strange.
It's confirmed to not be Rhodey, but even if it wasn't, they say the guy was 35 so it still couldn't be Rhodey.
 
Of all the Heroes of the MCU Doctor Strange strikes me as the most powerfull easily besides maybe the Hulk. It seems there's a spell for everything.
 
Please. This is just coming up every 5 posts and getting really annoying.

And honestly, the reference would have been more specific if it were Rhodey. He would have just said "War Machine broke his back" and Strange probably would have jumped at the opportunity to perform surgery on an Avenger, but here he just shrugged it off.
 
I think we can expect AoS to soon shoehorn themselves in as relevant with one of their characters being a possible surgery he declined.
 
Of all the Heroes of the MCU Doctor Strange strikes me as the most powerfull easily besides maybe the Hulk. It seems there's a spell for everything.

If only he could use a spell to get his hands right so he could jerk it again

I think we can expect AoS to soon shoehorn themselves in as relevant with one of their characters being a possible surgery he declined.

'DAMN YOU STRANGE'
 
I'll live either way, but I may just go early on Thursday to catch the opening of Doctor Strange. The parts that I missed, at least.

I already ordered a 7:05pm ticket for Arrival, and Doctor Strange is playing at 6:45 in 3D. I'll just explain and ask if I can go in for a few minutes to catch the opening and then leave for Arrival. I already got a ticket for Doctor Strange today, albeit one in 2D.
 
We should either put it in the thread title or just stop correcting people altogether. LOL

Doctor Strange |Spoiler Thread| They're not talking about Rhodey
Yes please. The thread is constantly being derailed with this at this point.

Of all the Heroes of the MCU Doctor Strange strikes me as the most powerfull easily besides maybe the Hulk. It seems there's a spell for everything.
As said above, I think Scarlet Witch is much, much more powerful. Strange had a year of training yet (without the aid of the time stone) he never accomplished anything as powerful as anything she did in Ultron with no formal training whatsoever.
 
As said above, I think Scarlet Witch is much, much more powerful. Strange had a year of training yet (without the aid of the time stone) he never accomplished anything as powerful as anything she did in Ultron with no formal training whatsoever.

Five things Strange has been shown as able to do:

He conjures up shields, whips and other weapons.
He opened portals to other parts of this universe.
He can use the mirrorverse to prevent any impact happening to our universe.
He has a flying cape as a sidekick
He can control time.

Wanda can match him on the first one and doesn't need a cape to fly, and she can make people have visions. That's it. No access or control over other parts of the multiverse, let alone having mastery over an infinity stone.
 
Five things Strange has been shown as able to do:

He conjures up shields, whips and other weapons.
He opened portals to other parts of this universe.
He can use the mirrorverse to prevent any impact happening to our universe.
He has a flying cape as a sidekick
He can control time.

Wanda can match him on the first one and doesn't need a cape to fly, and she can make people have visions. That's it. No access or control over other parts of the multiverse, let alone having mastery over an infinity stone.

I wouldn't be sure about that. She was created from one, and when she manipulates Vision's density you can see the mind stone turn red, which could imply that she is controlling it to some degree. It's something that might come up later in Infinity War.
 
Dr. Strange vs Scarlet Witch is kind of a whatever the writer wants scenario imo. You have insane magic vs insane reality warping.

As for Hulk, dude cannot die. He's like one of those little water bear microorganisms that can survive anything. Stopping Hulk is always just a temporary solution.
 
They don't really go in to why. The photographic memory definitely helps, but they suggest in movie that that can't be the only reason. My theory is that once he was able to finally "surrender" to the power, it finally clicked and he was able to progress extremely fast the same way he was able to progress extremely fast as a surgeon. There might be something "special" about him, but I'm assuming it's more that he's just a natural genius at this stuff once he applies his mind to it.

Being "super smart" would be the worst basis for his powers if we used in-universe logic.

Why is Tony Stark, for instance, fucking around with metal machines when apparently he can just go be a magician and have god like powers? Or any of the other extreme geniuses in the Marvel universe?

The basis for his ridiculous powers just seems too easy to achieve without some other kind of reasoning in there.
 
You missed part of Civil War.
To be fair, I limited the comparison to things that happened during Ultron. But the point I was trying to make was that she did it with no training, and she has certainly been training as long as Strange has by now. I think it's not been shown that Strange has more potential.
 
Wonder how much Dr. Strange Thor 3 will have, cus the ending scene made it seem like he'd be in there A LOT. I wouldn't mind if he joined up and made this a Hulk, Thor and Dr. Strange intergalactic road-trip movie.
 
Wonder how much Dr. Strange Thor 3 will have, cus the ending scene made it seem like he'd be in there A LOT. I wouldn't mind if he joined up and made this a Hulk, Thor and Dr. Strange intergalactic road-trip movie.

We'd probably know if Strange was in it a lot, it's filming now

What probably happens if Strange finds him, drops them right next to him, and bounces
 
Being "super smart" would be the worst basis for his powers if we used in-universe logic.

Why is Tony Stark, for instance, fucking around with metal machines when apparently he can just go be a magician and have god like powers? Or any of the other extreme geniuses in the Marvel universe?

The basis for his ridiculous powers just seems too easy to achieve without some other kind of reasoning in there.

I might be under-explaining what I'm thinking. I think it's a little more than just being smart and more that he has a certain knack for it. I think the suggestion is that the "flexibility" of his mind that The Ancient One alludes to is what allowed him to succeed as a surgeon and, now that his mind is open to it, will allow him to succeed as a sorcerer (faster than most). For lack of a better term, he seems to be a savant. Like Stark could in theory learn to do sorcerery, but would he ever be able to really open his mind to being truly capable without getting torn down to the level of desperation Strange was?
 
Tony Stark is the kind of guy to ask, "why spend all this time learning how to do all this bullshit when I can build something that does the same thing?"
 
This version of Strange with limited powers is so much more interesting then him believing in himself enough to pull whatever spell happens to be needed to beat an all powerful being like Dormmamu.
 
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Being "super smart" would be the worst basis for his powers if we used in-universe logic.

Why is Tony Stark, for instance, fucking around with metal machines when apparently he can just go be a magician and have god like powers? Or any of the other extreme geniuses in the Marvel universe?

The basis for his ridiculous powers just seems too easy to achieve without some other kind of reasoning in there.

Tony had panic attacks because easily defeatable aliens came to Eartj. Dude would gave been a gibbering wreck with magic.
 
So the sorcerers of Kamartaj totally have blood on their hands for not helping out when the Loki summoned the Chitauri in the first Avengers, right? They got a door that leads right to New York. No excuses, guys.
 
I broke my own rule and made internet hyperbole get to me, and was expecting totally mind-blowingly awesome from this movie.

And ended up with your typical superhero origin movie with like 2 cool looking sequences. And a weird climax that I guess is different, but was more played for laughs than anything.
 
Really good movie, probably my favorite marvel movie in a long time. Better than civil war (which to me was really just the air port scene), and he defeated the big bad in an unconventional way. The effects were top notch. Cumberbatch had a lot of charisma and I could see him taking over as the New RDJ of the MCU.

Even more excited for Thor 3 now as well. It's right up there with Iron Man for me.

Only complaint is that the pacing was a little off in the second half of the movie, felt like it slowed down a bit when he returned to NY.

Really happy they treated magic like magic, I was afraid going off Feige's comments in the past. Love his cloak relic. Now I'm in the mood for Strange comics but I don't know what trades would be good to start off with (most of his rec's seem to be older stuff and single issues).
 
Wonder how much Dr. Strange Thor 3 will have, cus the ending scene made it seem like he'd be in there A LOT. I wouldn't mind if he joined up and made this a Hulk, Thor and Dr. Strange intergalactic road-trip movie.

It'd probably be in the middle of the movie. Odin's needed, they can't find him, they go to Strange, Strange helps out, they find him, Strange tells them to get the fuck off Earth, then they go back to Planet Hulk shit.
 
Which doesn't help your point at all. Not every critic gives a score.

Hacksaw Ridge 7.2. Yet Gibson Stans will fawn over it.

My point was that the critical praise he implied with 90 % Rotten is simply not there.

Not sure why you needed to bring up a movie I heard nothing about.
 
So the sorcerers of Kamartaj totally have blood on their hands for not helping out when the Loki summoned the Chitauri in the first Avengers, right? They got a door that leads right to New York. No excuses, guys.

Physical world. Not their department. Back to sharing Beyonce tracks over their private FTP server.
 
Physical world. Not their department. Back to sharing Beyonce tracks over their private FTP server.

Wong listening to Beyonce with his stupid ass cheap Panasonic blue headphones might have been the most jarring thing and the farthest I've ever seen Marvel carry a bit in forever
 
Yes it is. They did a solo Hulk film. That was it.
Rights are still Universal's

In regards to the discussion on the timeline, would the following be possible:
-Time of the accident around Iron man 2, the mentioned victim could be the one shown during the hearing about the future use of Iron Mans tech (the one in Hammers prototype).
-During the months of Stranges recovery the Avengers happen
- so when Strange is introduced to magic the Avengers could be mentioned, Stranges training begins/continues.
- his training takes some years, the other recent Marvel Films happen
- jump to 'today': Stranges training is finished the Second half of the movie happens
He was only gone for months in Nepal between his accident and him going back to the hospital = less than 1 year
 
More marvel schlock - enjoyable schlock, to some degree, but still as safe and banal as all Marvel movies have become. I wish they could dispense with some of the camp.
 
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