What in the OP makes you feel like that's what the message is?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Does anyone else feel bothered by how anti-police things have gotten online?
- Thread starter airmangataosenai
- Start date
- Status
To Far Away Times
Member
The reason there is anti-police sentiment in the first place is because the police as a whole are earning that sentiment.
By job standards in the US?
It's much less dangerous than being in garbage collection or fishing based on the raw numbers. Hell, taxi drivers have a higher risk of fatal injury.
What was the story behind this photo again?
I don't. The past year has been...illuminating. It is my hope that the work being done now and has been going on for hundreds of years amounts to a better world for those hurting. There's a lot of work done on this subject by activists, writers, artists on what's happening here. While I have still only read The New Jim Crow on this list, I'd recommend starting here. Not on this list or on this one, but the author of the second list regularly recommends Fatal Invention by Dorothy Roberts, which I hope to read in the near future.
kame-sennin
Member
Nah. The police have been engaging in a campaign of racial terrorism. Harsh rhetoric is the least we can do as a society.
Also, the idea that civilization would collapse without a police force is one of those commonly held beliefs that's never challenged or tested by even a modicum of rational analysis. It also has no basis in historical fact.
They all turned their backs when Mayor DeBlasio spoke at a police funeral. The guy with the glasses is one of those "good apples" you always hear about.
Also, the idea that civilization would collapse without a police force is one of those commonly held beliefs that's never challenged or tested by even a modicum of rational analysis. It also has no basis in historical fact.
They all turned their backs when Mayor DeBlasio spoke at a police funeral. The guy with the glasses is one of those "good apples" you always hear about.
Why don't people make a thread whenever I take a call? I do good work here, people. But the ONE TIME I go on a racist, homophobic rant suddenly everyone is going crazy.
kame-sennin
Member
Note the smiling faces:
People often forget (or rather the information is suppressed) that lynching was and is a popular public spectacle. Lynchings used to be put on postcards. Now we have body cameras.
Lynchings were also advertised in newspapers well ahead of time. How come police didn't intervene to stop them when it was right there in the papers days ahead? And people will pick their butts looking stupid as to why black people in this country don't trust police smh.
Fugitive Slave Acts... who do you think enforced them? You think Joe Six Pack and his friends had the authority to interrogate whether a black person was free or an escaped slave? No... the police in "free" states did that and sent people right back to slavery. And people wonder why black people never trusted law enforcement smh.
"My great great grandfather came from [insert European country] with 2 cents, lint, and an owl pellet in his pocket, grew up poor and had a great relationship with police!!" -- lucky you!
Fugitive Slave Acts... who do you think enforced them? You think Joe Six Pack and his friends had the authority to interrogate whether a black person was free or an escaped slave? No... the police in "free" states did that and sent people right back to slavery. And people wonder why black people never trusted law enforcement smh.
"My great great grandfather came from [insert European country] with 2 cents, lint, and an owl pellet in his pocket, grew up poor and had a great relationship with police!!" -- lucky you!
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
The mayor, who has a black son, had the audacity to acknowledge that he had to have a discussion with his son about how the color of his skin will likely have an impact on potential encounters with police.
The NYPD overreacted to an obscene, almost satirical degree. It was absolutely shameful and embarrassing.
theignoramus
Member
theignoramus
Member
I'm not sure what's worse: your insinuation that people who have problems with cops are bringing it on themselves or your apparent ignorance of things like "walking while Black"
and "driving while Black"
You don't seem to understand and appreciate the fact that many departments make harassment of black citizens a priority, regardless of how the black person behaves.
I am as white as the driven snow and have never had a good encounter with american law enforcement. I've never had a bad encounter with police anywhere else in the world.
There is something intrinsically wrong with how the culture of power there or something, and then when you add institutional racism into the mix it goes from something unpleasant to an actual disaster.
Any criticism of the american police short of wishing harm on them is fine by me, considering what we've seen over the past few years.
There is something intrinsically wrong with how the culture of power there or something, and then when you add institutional racism into the mix it goes from something unpleasant to an actual disaster.
Any criticism of the american police short of wishing harm on them is fine by me, considering what we've seen over the past few years.
Eric the Red
Member
Nah, it's police culture in general that's gross. The culture within the precincts have to change before they get more respect.
zeopower6
Member
Not bothered by it at all really. Not a fan of the local law enforcement and haven't had encounters with officers that would make me think otherwise. It seems like as the years go by, there's always something about law enforcement overstepping their boundaries on the local news. A big recent one was the Kelly Thomas murder in Fullerton... and guess what? The officers were found not guilty of all charges. >_>
I feel you, OP. For every horrible police brutality case out there, there's like hundreds of smaller stories of the police actually protecting and serving that's only a minor headline. I tune out many Off-Topic GAF threads because it reads like many posters have given up trying to sift the good cop stories from the bad and just lump them all up together.
old manatee
Banned
Fire them all, jail half, and start over.
It makes me sick when people want to coddle those fucking thugs.
It makes me sick when people want to coddle those fucking thugs.
CrimsonCommie
Member
Why do you feel that police doing their job should be a major headline? Nice to know you're like most Americans and acknowledge police brutality exists and decide to ignore it anyway.
benjipwns
Banned
It sucks that the news only publishes stories about my daily commute when it causes mass amounts of death.
Look, being caught on tape beating a mentally ill homeless man to death is no reason to convict the officers!
Is that dude trying to look like Hitler on purpose?
This is applicable to almost any sensitive issue thread on GAF, which is a sad state of affair.
Jesus, is the 2nd paragraph true? I expect GAF to be better than this smh
MHWilliams
Member
Many cops I've met have been kind, great civil servants doing their jobs.
The problem, is if you run into an officer that either makes a mistakes that costs the life of a citizen or abuses their power with the same outcome, there is little to no justice or restitution for that citizen or their family. There are biased systems in place preventing that justice. This is before you get to other officers, who will not break rank when they notice a co-worker do something abusive or illegal or who may even back those actions up with lies.
Essentially, due to the lack of institutional accountability, a number of bad actors have poisoned a profession.
Officer gets jumpy when they think a citizen has a weapon? That's understandable. An officer not facing any justice for harming a citizen after making a poor call? That's not good at all.
Punish bad actors and the issue goes away.
The problem, is if you run into an officer that either makes a mistakes that costs the life of a citizen or abuses their power with the same outcome, there is little to no justice or restitution for that citizen or their family. There are biased systems in place preventing that justice. This is before you get to other officers, who will not break rank when they notice a co-worker do something abusive or illegal or who may even back those actions up with lies.
Essentially, due to the lack of institutional accountability, a number of bad actors have poisoned a profession.
Officer gets jumpy when they think a citizen has a weapon? That's understandable. An officer not facing any justice for harming a citizen after making a poor call? That's not good at all.
Punish bad actors and the issue goes away.
Lil'DigiOp
Member
Thats the joke really. Prosecute over aggressive and dangerous cops. Actually find them guilty of their heinous behavior.
No more people arguing. But no... that makes too much sense.
LOL you didn't think before posting this did you? I am a black attorney and I've been racially profiled twice by police. Tell me what lifestyle changes you would suggest?
benjipwns
Banned
Well, a black attorney would be a danger to police. Especially if you're a defense attorney.
Most dangerous thing in the world is a black man with a library card.
soundahfekz
Member
Get that Sammy Sosa...
hair looking like beef stroganoff
Princess Carl
Member
Not in the slightest.
Do you applaud everyone who does the job they get paid to do?
Mammoth Jones
Member
This. The cult of police worship is just strange.
IrishNinja
Member
yuuup, couldn't agree more - frankly, it's long ovedue
this is highkey about the grossest post ive read on GAF all week
Live a life shook to death of abuse of authority and rationalize it online folks
i am unagi
Neo Member
I actually had a brush with LAPD yesterday.
It seemed like they were going out of their way to prove that they are level headed and out to do good.
They were going out of their way to change the online negative perception. I think in time more officers will engage in this behavior and the backlash will die down.
All the negative backlash actually invokes change. Just think about the animal rights movement and the "food revolution." Ten years ago no one cared and now Sea World and McDonald's are struggling more than ever. The main catalyst was just starting a discussion about the issues on social media.
In this scenario, the officers will change for the better (hopefully), and there will no longer be a need for backlash.
It seemed like they were going out of their way to prove that they are level headed and out to do good.
They were going out of their way to change the online negative perception. I think in time more officers will engage in this behavior and the backlash will die down.
All the negative backlash actually invokes change. Just think about the animal rights movement and the "food revolution." Ten years ago no one cared and now Sea World and McDonald's are struggling more than ever. The main catalyst was just starting a discussion about the issues on social media.
In this scenario, the officers will change for the better (hopefully), and there will no longer be a need for backlash.
And when they pull you over for no reason but to harass you and yours? Then what? There are plenty of minorities that do dick all and still get shitted on by the police. This way of thinking is so hilariously fraudulent.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Aren't police trying to be othered?
They dress the same, drive the same cars in the same livery, present a united front against outsiders, have their own speech pattern and jargon bordering on a different dialect...
They dress the same, drive the same cars in the same livery, present a united front against outsiders, have their own speech pattern and jargon bordering on a different dialect...
chaostrophy
Member
The only problem I really see is that there's not enough reflection and examination of the attitudes of the general public that got us into this mess. I'm not pro-cop, I think that police power is totally out of control. But there's so little media coverage of the decades of mass calls for law and order, tough-on-crime policies. I hope the people who went along with those are admitting some fault, and not just blaming the cops they enabled.
- Status