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[Wandering Leopard]

Not unless they can do native 4k / 60fps / Raytracing, so these new consoles would need to be approx. 2 times as powerful.

But it's possible upscaling / reconstruction tech will continue to get better so I would settle for (mid-gen console that can do) 60fps with a lot of Raytracing.

 

[plip.plop]

I'd be down for an XSX digital version.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I'd like to see more of what these current ones are capable of first

 

[Kerotan]

Ps5 pro holiday 24 please.

 

[Neo_game]

If they want this gen to last really long then Pro, X is a must. They should also consider releasing 2gb or 1.65gb storage console.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Fuck yeah I do. As a PC gaming elitist, a small part of me dies every time I have to pick between quality mode and performance mode on my PS5.

A mid-gen upgrade that can do "quality mode" at 60+ FPS would be a dream come true.

 

[dorkimoe]

No. Get games out for the new ones

 

[RaySoft]

MS will for sure, they're a continously evolving "PC" platform now.
According to Sony, they believe more in generations, so who knows. I doubt it, but they could do a Pro model down the line for reaching 60fps on all 30fps PS5 titles that's currently in the pipeline.

 

[ReBurn]

Not unless they can do native 4k / 60fps / Raytracing, so these new consoles would need to be approx. 2 times as powerful.

But it's possible upscaling tech will continue to get better so I would settle for 60fps with a lot of Raytracing.

Why would they need to be twice as powerful and how would that even be measured? They really only need to barely implement the latest GPU features available for people to buy them by the millions.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

I think Sony will eventually make PS5 one SKU. Disc Edition will be the size of Digital, and they will discontinue the Digital Edition. And the price will be 450$.

 

[DispatchNinja]

Yes I want a bigger PS5.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Yes I want a bigger PS5.

I heard consoles double in size every 18 months so you won't have to wait for long.

 

[Tmack]

Unless one of them really drop the ball and have ridiculous sales and decide to release a brand new system to try to undercut the competitor, a mid gen SKU is a matter of when not if.

 

[FeldMonster]

No. Get games out for the new ones

Do you honestly think that hardware engineers develop games during non-launch years?

 

[Reindeer]

I want a PS5 Pro targeting a price of around 800-1000 dollars / euro. That would hit incredible performance with a full-fat CPU and a massive raytracing improvement with a full-on DLSS counterpart and an even faster SSD with about 2-3 TB of storage.

Aaaaand you woke up.

 

[Birdo]

Yep. Slim and cheaper versions.

 

[Tygeezy]

There is less reason for an upgrade. You had 4k tv's that people wanted to take advantage of which was the primary reason for the upgraded consoles. 8k has huge diminishing returns unless you're punching distance away from your tv and would be a complete waste of resources to try and achieve when it's often times hard enough to see a big difference between 1440p and 4k when you sit a reasonable distance away from your tv. VR is a different beast altogether though and can use all the pixels it can get.

 

[Tygeezy]

Fuck yeah I do. As a PC gaming elitist, a small part of me dies every time I have to pick between quality mode and performance mode on my PS5.

A mid-gen upgrade that can do "quality mode" at 60+ FPS would be a dream come true.

You already have to do that on pc when you budget settings to hit an ideal framerate. The main issue with pro versions is the software has to support the advantages of the newer console or you're not getting anything out of it.

 

[QuantumZebra]

Phill already said they're working on next console, it's happening.

I haven't seen sauce on this... but seriously? They already have two versions out. Microsoft needs to sit on their hands. They're like Google with apps... constantly revising and dropping shit. Kinect anyone?

On topic: I don't believe in power boosts except in extreme instances where the OG version is just weak (the PS4 Pro / X1X was passable as hinted due to 4k, etc.). Slim models/revisions, sure... but don't split the playerbase into ones with 2-3x more powerful systems.

 

[kruis]

The PS4 Pro was a substantial improvement on the PS4, so I would welcome a PS5 Pro that can make the current PS5 look like crap.

 

[TrebleShot]

There should be a new console every year to be honest, new iterative hardware features and you can trade in your old console.
Just like mob phones.

would be wicked.

 

[reksveks]

There is less reason for an upgrade. You had 4k tv's that people wanted to take advantage of which was the primary reason for the upgraded consoles. 8k has huge diminishing returns unless you're punching distance away from your tv and would be a complete waste of resources to try and achieve when it's often times hard enough to see a big difference between 1440p and 4k when you sit a reasonable distance away from your tv. VR is a different beast altogether though and can use all the pixels it can get.

If there was an amd chip with better hardware support for ml and/or raytracing, that's what they will sell as a feature.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

 

[FStubbs]

I don't think I want a mid gen upgrade. I think both the PS5 and XBX are good enough to last the full generation. And so Sony and MS should allow developers to get the most out of them.

My thinking is, the PS4 Pro and XOX were one offs. I think they were produced because of 4K TV's being more popular.

8K TVs will be the next thing they push.

 

[Bonsaibäumchen]

Pros with better RT HW acceleration sure why not?

 

[OverHeat]

Hell yeah!!! More power!

 

[iJudged]

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

You already have to do that on pc when you budget settings to hit an ideal framerate. The main issue with pro versions is the software has to support the advantages of the newer console or you're not getting anything out of it.

A high-end PC today can max just about any game at over 60 FPS with settings equal or better than your typical PS5 4K30 "quality" settings. But yeah thanks for informing me that you can indeed tweak graphics settings on PC.

 

[MonarchJT]

yes i do

 

[MrPotato]

Yes, ps5 with rdan 2 would be cool

Spoiler

/s

I think these consoles are perfectly fine as they.
Now let the games do the talking

 

[Reindeer]

I haven't seen sauce on this... but seriously? They already have two versions out. Microsoft needs to sit on their hands. They're like Google with apps... constantly revising and dropping shit. Kinect anyone?

On topic: I don't believe in power boosts except in extreme instances where the OG version is just weak (the PS4 Pro / X1X was passable as hinted due to 4k, etc.). Slim models/revisions, sure... but don't split the playerbase into ones with 2-3x more powerful systems.

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Microsoft says it's already working on new Xbox consoles, "some of which won't come to light for years"

Microsoft made a raft of announcements today around the cloud - but it has also insisted it remains committed to making…

www.eurogamer.net

Why would they stop making new hardware? It would be silly for them to stop and watch Sony launch a Pro console.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

8K TVs will be the next thing they push.

of course but 8K TV's will be useless for a lot of people. 8K TVs are only for people who would want a cinema experience at home. for a lot of people to notice any difference over 4K they'd need to get a screen that is 80-130" as 42-65" are the most common 4K sizes.... or sit a lot closer. I have a 55" 4K TV and beyond 8ft away it doesn't look any different from a 1080p TV. if i replaced it with a 55" 8K TV it would be a waste of money. i'd need to sit right infront of the TV to notice a difference or get a much bigger display to stay at my 8ft distance.

but hey that didn't stop Sony/MS marketing the PS4 Pro/XB1X as 4K consoles when A) they didn't really do 4K in a lot of games B) 4K TV adoption was still really low in 2016-2017. 4K was just a buzzword and I'm sure 8K will be too.

 

[rickybooby87]

Yes. Seeing what the PS5 can do with a paltry 36CUs is already impressive, imagine 72CUs!

PS4 had 18, PS4 Pro had 36.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

Here

Microsoft says it's already working on new Xbox consoles, "some of which won't come to light for years"

Microsoft made a raft of announcements today around the cloud - but it has also insisted it remains committed to making…

www.eurogamer.net

Why would they stop making new hardware? It would be silly for them to stop and watch Sony launch a Pro console.

why are people acting surprised that MS is working on new consoles?

both Sony + MS have always started working on new consoles as soon as they put one out. Sony are very likely already thinking about not just a PS5 Pro but the PS6. the PS4 was in development just after PS3 came out. MS will be thinking about a mid gen console and their next gen Xbox. both Sony + MS would be absolutely stupid to NOT be working on next gen consoles right now. i know tech needs to progress before they can really do anything seriously but they are definitely seeing what they can do with next gen.

 

[alabtrosMyster]

I think that there will be a subset of people who want to run Ratchet and Clank at fidelity mode+ in native 4k 60fps, probably even with the shaders used in the cut scenes.

If there is a market for a "PRO" console it will happen for sure, I know I was in for the PS4 PRO, but I this was because I thought that the performance benefits would be obvious (even if I still think that the base PS4 is a really nice piece of hardware).

 

[QuantumZebra]

Yes. Seeing what the PS5 can do with a paltry 36CUs is already impressive, imagine 72CUs!

PS4 had 18, PS4 Pro had 36.

But what about the tflops? Tell me about the tflops!!

 

[ResilientBanana]

Just a slim for me.

 

[The_Observer]

At first we should reach to a point where crossgen is just a memory, and it seems this is very far. We haven't even seen anything from what these consoles can do, who cares about midgen refresh? By that time nextgen should come, not midgen refresh

 

[rickybooby87]

But what about the tflops? Tell me about the tflops!!

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

But what about the tflops? Tell me about the tflops!!

we already have pc gpus with 46TF. these consoles are only a mere 10.3 (PS5) + 12 (XSX).

so lots of room for improvement.

 

[Tygeezy]

A high-end PC today can max just about any game at over 60 FPS with settings equal or better than your typical PS5 4K30 "quality" settings. But yeah thanks for informing me that you can indeed tweak graphics settings on PC.

Your last sentence was rude, snarky, and unnecessary considering my post was not intended as confrontational. You're not getting 4k native ray tracing above 60 with maxed out settings on newer titles which is why we have DLSS. Compromises need to be made. You also didn't acknowledge the most important part of my post and that is console games settings are locked down which makes it more difficult to take advantage of mid gen consoles since we don't have access to framerate caps or advanced settings to tweak like we do on pc. We depend on the developers to go back and "support" the newer consoles by increasing framerate cap, unlocking framerate cap, boosting resolution, or increasing iq settings.

 

[Entroyp]

Yes please.

 

[highrider]

Why don't they just focus on getting their current product to stores? I guess it's not even money on the table to them, they are that certain we will wait and pay a premium. There's a lot of semi casual types like me that would pull the trigger but aren't going to jump through hoops.

 

[M1chl]

Absolutely

 

[deriks]

Wants? Not really. But everyone know that they will do

 

[onnextflix5]

No thanks, rather have a full gen upgrade in 5 years then small update in 3 years.

 

[Velius]

This sounds like a $500.00 console remorse thread.
Or more likely, a $1200.00 console on ebay remorse thread.

Sit in your coffin and rot. I'll get the Pro at $399.99 you cucks

 

[onnextflix5]

Didn't Microsoft already admit they're going with the "Ecosystem" model from now on?(Like iPhone and Android and hell, Windows) IE starting with XBox One you just buy whatever model is currently out and it pretty much plays any past XboxOne/XboxSeries game that has already come out and will play any game for the next 5 years or so. If this is what they're going with I'd expect consoles updates.(Not that it matters now since neither Sony or Microsoft can meet demand anyway.)

No they did not, ms dont want to be in the loss making hardware business, they want to be full in on the streaming crap, but will release new hardware if sony dose, for time being.

 

[MaKTaiL]

I don't want it and even if they do I won't buy it. I spent the entire last gen with a PS4 and I'm happy to stay with my PS5 until the PS6 drops.

 

[TrackZ]

I want new consoles every 3 years. Period. People upgrade phones roughly every two years for $1k+. We can buy $500 consoles every few years. Forget delineating them as mid-gen or whatever as well IMO. Just push the power every 3 years as much as possible. I'd buy it and this would serve to pull me from PC.

Do one new model as powerful as possible every 3 years and support the last model with new games, giving each console a 6 year guaranteed lifespan of new game support. So one could upgrade every other cycle if they wanted to and not miss playing titles.