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does Goldeneye (n64) still have the best level design ever in a console fps? yes.

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Okay, "clone" was too strong a word. I regret using it if only because it steered the conversation in a stupid direction. Thief and NOLF are not ripoffs or clones, but it always seemed pretty clear that they were trying to capitalize on what Goldeneye started. Except they did it in a good way, and pushed far beyond GE's boundaries.
 

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I think both GoldenEye and Perfect Dark have great level design. They were designed to be functional as if you were in a real location. Especially Perfect Dark's tower level. I remember how big that was. Go all the way up, then down. And the AI was great. GoldenEye had really cool design as well. I loved both.

I wish I could find GoldenEye. Actually, I wish I could play both GE and PD on something less blurry. Oh well.
 
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