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[engstra]

I don't know why moves like this are being celebrated. They aren't releasing it in a way that can be purchased and played locally. It's literally just moving towards, "You'll own nothing and be happy." It would be one thing if it could be purchased OR accessed via Nintendo Switch Online, but moves like this are garbage and just proves that Nintendo will milk everyone dry, and Nintendo fans will happily allow them to do so. I'm not trying to hate on anyone in this thread. I just hate that these types of situations are being lauded instead of lambasted.

Honestly who cares? As long as I can play the game. Don't really care about outright owning it.

Yes, on a N64. Is that difficult for some reason ?

You would have to buy a whole other console and the game and expansion pack. That is definitely more expensive than just paying for a subscription (one that is relatively cheap all things considered). Also this is way more convenient.

 

[cireza]

That is definitely more expensive than just paying for a subscription

It is not by definition because the subscription doesn't give you anything. You don't own anything, so at the end of the day, you paid for nothing.

Ownership is a nice thing. Cartridge based consoles are very reliable on top of it. Anyone interested in N64 and a bit serious about it will own the console and an Everdrive for example. Gives you pretty much everything for a very reasonable price.

 

[rkofan87]

put Bad Fur Day in the mature app cowards

 

[engstra]

It is not by definition because the subscription doesn't give you anything. You don't own anything, so at the end of the day, you paid for nothing.

Ownership is a nice thing. Cartridge based consoles are very reliable on top of it. Anyone interested in N64 and a bit serious about it will own the console and an Everdrive for example. Gives you pretty much everything for a very reasonable price.

You pay to experience the game? That's like saying you paid for nothing when going to a concert or football game

 

[cireza]

You pay to experience the game? That's like saying you paid for nothing when going to a concert or football game

I wasn't aware that you could own a concert or a football game.

A better example would be comparing a house rental and actually buying the house. You pay a monthly fee, except that after enough years, you actually own the house in one case.

 

[Fahdis]

I don't know why moves like this are being celebrated. They aren't releasing it in a way that can be purchased and played locally. It's literally just moving towards, "You'll own nothing and be happy." It would be one thing if it could be purchased OR accessed via Nintendo Switch Online, but moves like this are garbage and just proves that Nintendo will milk everyone dry, and Nintendo fans will happily allow them to do so. I'm not trying to hate on anyone in this thread. I just hate that these types of situations are being lauded instead of lambasted.

Taking them seriously will embark you into a new form of cult youve never seen before. Just fart their way and move on. Let them get ripped off. I just find the whole thing perplexing.

 

[Esppiral]

Can you easily play Donkey Kong 64, right now if you wanted to, without emulation?

Could 15 year old Timmy play it without emulators or piracy know-how?

No? Then STFU and let ppl who could/would never be able to play DK64 play it in peace and convenience on their Nintendo Switch.

Do you realize that the NSO is emulation?

 

[MacReady13]

Can you easily play Donkey Kong 64, right now if you wanted to, without emulation?

Could 15 year old Timmy play it without emulators or piracy know-how?

No? Then STFU and let ppl who could/would never be able to play DK64 play it in peace and convenience on their Nintendo Switch.

Can you easily play Donkey Kong 64, right now if you wanted to, without emulation?

Could 15 year old Timmy play it without emulators or piracy know-how?

No? Then STFU and let ppl who could/would never be able to play DK64 play it in peace and convenience on their Nintendo Switch.

No how about he say what he likes as he is right. Allowing people to play them is fine but not allowing people to own these fucking games is pathetic. You can only rent it. And that's just wrong. For as much as I hate gamepass, you can still buy all the games you can rent. Nintendo doesn't allow that and it's beyond pathetic. Stop championing this bullshit.

 

[rkofan87]

Do you realize that the NSO is emulation?

legal emulation without stealing the ROM

 

[TintoConCasera]

legal emulation without stealing the ROM

All emulation is legal. Nintendo makes games, not the law.

 

[MrCunningham]

All emulation is legal. Nintendo makes games, not the law.

Emulation as a concept goes way beyond console gaming. It has been a staple of software development since the beginning of computers. The only parts of console emulation that can be classified as illegal are the usage of copyrighted BIOS's and ROM's. Emulation is fair game.

 

[Hyet]

That's cool and all but the game is pretty bad lol

 

[keefged4]

I've played through DK64 a couple of times, and honestly have no desire to go back to it. Rare made the best N64 games, but this one is a massive slog to get through.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I've played through DK64 a couple of times, and honestly have no desire to go back to it. Rare made the best N64 games, but this one is a massive slog to get through.

Some of their later games feel way too bloated. I have the same problem with Banjo-Tooie. For me Banjo-Kazooie was the best balanced platformer they've made in that regard.

 

[keefged4]

Some of their later games feel way too bloated. I have the same problem with Banjo-Tooie. For me Banjo-Kazooie was the best balanced platformer they've made in that regard.

I have a soft spot for Tooie, I think it's balanced just right for my tastes, but I get the complaints about the backtracking and the bloat.

The bloat in Tooie is absolutely nothing compared to DK64 though.

You really can't go wrong with any of Rare's 64 titles. Even Mickey's Speedway has its charm

 

[TintoConCasera]

I have a soft spot for Tooie, I think it's balanced just right for my tastes, but I get the complaints about the backtracking and the bloat.

The bloat in Tooie is absolutely nothing compared to DK64 though.

You really can't go wrong with any of Rare's 64 titles. Even Mickey's Speedway has its charm

Might need to give Tooie another chance then. I went to play it right after a replay of Kazooie and that might have been a bad idea.

And yeah man I love Rare's games. I believe they carried the N64 and it wouldn't have been the same without them, at all. Jet Force Gemini is a personal favorite, love that game.

 

[keefged4]

Might need to give Tooie another chance then. I went to play it right after a replay of Kazooie and that might have been a bad idea.

And yeah man I love Rare's games. I believe they carried the N64 and it wouldn't have been the same without them, at all. Jet Force Gemini is a personal favorite, love that game.

Jet Force Gemini's OST lives rent free in my head, It's one of the best N64 games for sure.

Kazooie is the better game compared to Tooie if I'm being honest, it's just perfectly paced compared to Tooie. So yeah playing them back to back I can see why Tooie would come across as a bit overwhelming.

Fully agree that Rare carried the 64. The first party Nintendo titles are good and all, but Rare's output was the cream of the crop.

 

[Robb]

DK 64 releasing on 6/4.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Still a ton of games missing:

Conker
Glover
Diddy Kong racing
Gex
Goemon
Megaman 64
Resident Evil 2
Rocket Robot on Wheels
Body Harvest
Space Station Silicon valley
Cruisin'
SF Rush
Beetle Adventure Racing
Extreme G 2
Rogue Squadron
Battle for Naboo
Shadows of the empire
Bomberman
Snowboard Kids
Ogre Battle
Mischief Makers
Smash

And a few Japan exclusives could use a translation.

 

[TintoConCasera]

And a few Japan exclusives could use a translation.

Which ones?

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

Which ones?

Custom Robo, the original Animal Crossing, probably a few of lesser known others

 

[keefged4]

Which ones?

Ngl I'd love to see and official english translation of Densha de go!

 

[poodaddy]

This is cool, it is a good game, if extremely flawed.

This is probably the game I'm more interested in a decomp/recomp of than anything. There's an amazing game here, but the forced backtracking due to only being able to collect items corresponding to the color of each kong just makes the game take far too long, and that's something that could be addressed in a decomp. Anyone know if that's being worked on or not?

 

[AJUMP23]

For harambe.

 

[IFireflyl]

This is cool, it is a good game, if extremely flawed.

This is probably the game I'm more interested in a decomp/recomp of than anything. There's an amazing game here, but the forced backtracking due to only being able to collect items corresponding to the color of each kong just makes the game take far too long, and that's something that could be addressed in a decomp. Anyone know if that's being worked on or not?

dk64_decomp / dk64 · GitLab

GitLab.com

gitlab.com

It looks like it's about 58% complete.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Tbf even

Can you easily play Donkey Kong 64, right now if you wanted to, without emulation?

Could 15 year old Timmy play it without emulators or piracy know-how?

No? Then STFU and let ppl who could/would never be able to play DK64 play it in peace and convenience on their Nintendo Switch.

Tbf even my microwave runs DK64 on it

 

[Sethbacca]

Nintendo not having all of their first party games available on day one for these subscription services is lame. What, are they afraid they're going to accidentally sue themselves?

Afraid it would give you too much value all at once.

 

[Ceallach]

Why does everyt Nintendo thread devolve into absolute nonsense lmao

 

[tr1p1ex]

I don't know why moves like this are being celebrated. They aren't releasing it in a way that can be purchased and played locally. It's literally just moving towards, "You'll own nothing and be happy." It would be one thing if it could be purchased OR accessed via Nintendo Switch Online, but moves like this are garbage and just proves that Nintendo will milk everyone dry, and Nintendo fans will happily allow them to do so. I'm not trying to hate on anyone in this thread. I just hate that these types of situations are being lauded instead of lambasted.

You really gotta jump through a lot of hoops to hate on a game being released for NSO.

 

[IFireflyl]

You really gotta jump through a lot of hoops to hate on a game being released for NSO.

Show me where I said games shouldn't be released for Nintendo Switch Online.

 

[tr1p1ex]

Show me where I said games shouldn't be released for Nintendo Switch Online.

Quote your first post where you cry and whine and complain that people are happy a game was released for NSO.

 

[VGA-Games]

Awesome

 

[Germuso]

I couldn't finish it, they should relaase a enhance version that fix all those fucking bananas.

 

[poodaddy]

dk64_decomp / dk64 · GitLab

GitLab.com

gitlab.com

It looks like it's about 58% complete.

Thank you brother, I'm fucking so pumped now lol. I wonder how long that last half will take. I truly have no idea how long this de/recomps take to finish, and I'm sure DK64 is a bit more complex than some others as well, but man this will be so good when we can configure it to where any Kong can pick up all items and bananas.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

He's obviously referring to unofficial emulation software with that comment. This wasn't needed because no one is obviously asking for Nintendo to come up with a hardware-based solution, lol.

Having an official option is always nice, but convenience doesn't need to be official, and DK64 is a good example of that. Easily found on the internet and can be played on virtually every PC and smartphone out there.

Even when Nintendo actually sold the games, people found (legitimate) reasons to not buy them anyway.
On the Wii, games sold in PAL regions were 50Hz versions, unacceptable in the post-5th gen era when Nintendo offered 60Hz options for most of their games, even before Sony started doing that.
On the WiiU, N64 emulation was botched, with games looking visibly darker than on the Wii VC.
And on top of that, you had tons of people complaining that they'd have to rebuy the games every time Nintendo put out a new console.
Meanwhile, all the people complaining kept not buying the games and emulating them elsewhere anyway, with better results.

So… why would Nintendo try to sell the games anymore to people who kept complaining and not buying them for a decade?

What people mean when they say they'd rather buy the games, is that they'd buy NES and GB games for $0.99, SNES and GBA for 2.99, N64 for 4.99. I can assure you that nobody would put their money where their heart is when a NES ROM is sold for 5.99 at the very minimum. And then you see GBA Pokemon games sold for fucking $20 and… seriously, nobody can say they'd rebuy these games at Nintendo prices and believe it. So don't expect me to believe it.

This is cool, it is a good game, if extremely flawed.

This is probably the game I'm more interested in a decomp/recomp of than anything. There's an amazing game here, but the forced backtracking due to only being able to collect items corresponding to the color of each kong just makes the game take far too long, and that's something that could be addressed in a decomp. Anyone know if that's being worked on or not?

There's mods that allow you to swap Kongs on the fly, iirc.

 

[nial]

Even when Nintendo actually sold the games, people found (legitimate) reasons to not buy them anyway.
On the Wii, games sold in PAL regions were 50Hz versions, unacceptable in the post-5th gen era when Nintendo offered 60Hz options for most of their games, even before Sony started doing that.
On the WiiU, N64 emulation was botched, with games looking visibly darker than on the Wii VC.
And on top of that, you had tons of people complaining that they'd have to rebuy the games every time Nintendo put out a new console.
Meanwhile, all the people complaining kept not buying the games and emulating them elsewhere anyway, with better results.

So… why would Nintendo try to sell the games anymore to people who kept complaining and not buying them for a decade?

What people mean when they say they'd rather buy the games, is that they'd buy NES and GB games for $0.99, SNES and GBA for 2.99, N64 for 4.99. I can assure you that nobody would put their money where their heart is when a NES ROM is sold for 5.99 at the very minimum. And then you see GBA Pokemon games sold for fucking $20 and… seriously, nobody can say they'd rebuy these games at Nintendo prices and believe it. So don't expect me to believe it.

I don't see how you can blame the consumer here. When people say that they want classic games on their consoles, they don't mean that they want poor emulation, or having to buy them again every time Nintendo puts out a new console, or that they want them at $20. If Nintendo thought that the whole Virtual Console experiment didn't meet their expectations, it's because they botched it. Simple as.
IMO, $5 for NES/SNES/GB/GBA/VB games and $10 for N64/GCN games would be reasonable prices. Sony-published PS1/PS2/PSP games are $10 on PSN. Asking $20 for some Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen roms is insane.

 

[touchfuzzy]

I mean, we have the exact same fucking conversation in every NSO thread. Whining and crying over "Why can't I just buy it?!"

Until of course the one time they did release one you can actually buy, then it was "Why does this cost so much?!"