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Doom (2016) PC performance thread

holy shit, is this for real? i just bought a new 144hz G sync monitor so I can't tell you how excited I am to play something over 60fps for the first time ever (I've never even seen it before). Hopefully my 980 can get me some good frame rates at 1440p.

I honestly feel with a slight bit of tweaking getting 60 FPS at 1440p would be feasible for a GTX 970. I don't even think I would need to use my over clock settings. Though I don't think the change in resolution would be worth the loss in fidelity or lesser framerate. I am really interested to see what the Vulkan API offers in terms of performance. Wondering if 1440p maxed would be possible on a 970.
 

tomasdk

Member
I must say I didn't think I would be able to play this on 60fps with a 560ti card lol. I certainly could not play Dark Souls 3. I put everything on minimum and resolution to 720p and it's constant 60 so far. My planned upgrade is a few months away but I don't mind that at all, the single player is surprisingly good.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
i7 6700K @ 4.7GHz
DDR4 @ 3000MHz
980 Ti OC

1440p
Maxed settings, no AA
G-Sync

60 - 110 fps, averaging around 80 - 90 I'd say. Buttery and beautiful.
 
i7-920
16G RAM
Titan X
1T Evo SSD
4k TV

Running on Ultra @ 4k yields between 30s-40FPS. Vulkan should put me at 60FPS consistently.

You are not going to get a 20-30 fps boost with Vulkan.

Some are probably more sensitive to that kind of thing. Someone else mentioned they were probably experiencing something similar. The Steam forums are also filled with people saying similar things. It's very smooth, but there is this weird...stutter is probably the wrong word, but at times, the game feels it's running worse than the frame counter would indicate.

You can see the frametimes in-game. It is indeed silky smooth for me.
 
I must say I didn't think I would be able to play this on 60fps with a 560ti card lol. I certainly could not play Dark Souls 3. I put everything on minimum and resolution to 720p and it's constant 60 so far. My planned upgrade is a few months away but I don't mind that at all, the single player is surprisingly good.

that's good to hear because I'm just about to attempt the same
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
On my 980 Ti the game doesn't seem to want to use anything more than 3.42GB of VRAM.
 

Smokey

Member
How can I unlock the frame rate? Vsync is disabled, but I'm being capped some where. It won't go above 60 fps (I'm on a 144hz monitor).
 

epmode

Member
How can I unlock the frame rate? Vsync is disabled, but I'm being capped some where. It won't go above 60 fps (I'm on a 144hz monitor).

Are you checking while in a level? Because it looks like some of the menu screens after launching the game are capped at 60. The game itself is uncapped.
 
i7 2600 @ 3.4 (3.8 w/ Turbo Boost)
GTX 760 2GB
8 GB RAM @ 1600MHz

720p at low settings... still comes with constant framedrops. Prior to this, I've ran Garden Warfare 2 and Fallout 4 at 1080p 60fps on a mix of medium to high settings. Is it weird for me to feel like this game isn't optimized to its fullest? I'm not trying to max out visuals or anything, and I don't feel like this card should be falling behind like this, especially not this soon, and especially if the PS4 is handling it fine. Yeah, a console can push out a bit more performance than a PC can for obvious reasons, but even then, my parts aren't exactly weaker compared to the hardware there.

The strange part is, the performance squeezed out of running it at 720p on low is insignificant. Yeah, the framerate is a bit more stable, but I still get hits to around 30fps, which is basically the lowest I was getting at 1080p medium. Honestly, I can deal with a lower resolution granted the frames are better, but being unable to hit a consistent 60fps at 720p low settings? I just feel like they didn't even try optimizing for older cards. I feel I should be able to hit that, at least.

I'm pretty disappointed. This card has been able to handle recent stuff like Rise of the Tomb Raider and Dark Souls 3 just fine based on other's accounts, so it definitely doesn't feel like it's time for an upgrade. I'm regretting my purchase, but not much I can do now. I might wait for the inevitable Vulkan support and hope that it helps out before I play again, but I'm doubting it'll do more than make 720p playable. That can only do so much, right?
That's a shame to hear as I have pretty similar specs to you (only difference is RAM).
 
On my 980 Ti the game doesn't seem to want to use anything more than 3.42GB of VRAM.

I have seen it go up to 5.5 GB. It just depends on the area. (make sure you are using Nightmare page file)

Also, there are some pretty brutal CPU bottlenecks where my CPU usage and GPU is low (I presume driver, draw call overhead considering the expanses I look over when that occurs: but at least I have never sen it go below 60).
For example:
doomx64_2016_05_13_13xlkv0.png

I cannot wait for VULKAN!
 

KKRT00

Member
I have seen it go up to 5.5 GB. It just depends on the area. (make sure you are using Nightmare page file)

Also, there are some pretty brutal CPU bottlenecks where my CPU usage and GPU is low (I presume driver, draw call overhead considering the expanses I look over when that occurs: but at least I have never sen it go below 60).
For example:
doomx64_2016_05_13_13xlkv0.png

I cannot wait for VULKAN!

Hmm, it will be really interesting to compare this in Vulkan.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I have seen it go up to 5.5 GB. It just depends on the area. (make sure you are using Nightmare page file)

Oh crap, I didn't realise there were NIGHTMARE settings for a couple of things!

Think a 6700K would see any improvement with Vulkan?
 
Oh crap, I didn't realise there were NIGHTMARE settings for a couple of things!

Yeah I forgot as well for the first level... the shadows get a nice boost from nightmare.
Think a 6700K would see any improvement with Vulkan?

I imagine it could honestly. I am losing nearly 60% of my GPU utilisation (although it is a Titan X @ 1425mhz) due to CPU overhead... and I imagine a 6700K would fair much better, but still have some problems in spite of its great IPC advantage.
 

Smokey

Member
Yeah, it should be awesome to compare.


Yeah, I think a number of the playback animations they made framelock to 60. Death animations sometimes do for example.

But even when you take control, it's 60fps for me. Are you saying it unlocks after? I don't have vsync checked in game or in NVCP.
 
I have seen it go up to 5.5 GB. It just depends on the area. (make sure you are using Nightmare page file)

Also, there are some pretty brutal CPU bottlenecks where my CPU usage and GPU is low (I presume driver, draw call overhead considering the expanses I look over when that occurs: but at least I have never sen it go below 60).
For example:
doomx64_2016_05_13_13xlkv0.png

I cannot wait for VULKAN!

what a strange scene to be cpu limited. its not very expansive at all
 
But even when you take control, it's 60fps for me. Are you saying it unlocks after? I don't have vsync checked in game or in NVCP.

Are you downsampling and capping in RTSS or using Vsync?

Try 2 things out (idtech is fickle with detecting hz and with frame capping in strange ways):
1. Turn off the framerate cap in RTSS (set to 0).
if that does not work
2. Stop down sampling
3. Try NV vsync instead of ingame

idtech 5 had some strange behaviour with downsampling where limiting the game to 60 fps while downsampling would make it run @ 30 for a reason I truly do not understand.
what a strange scene to be cpu limited. its not very expansive at all

It could be using tons of draw call for XXX reason. But for example, if I turn around and look at a similarly geometrically complex area but with far less discrete objects, it shooots up to 120hz again. Different renderers have diff draw calls for different things (material layering for example can be draw call heavy, etc.).
 

vakarian32

Member
i5-2500K @ 4.2GHz, 16GB DDR3-1866, 980 Ti
2560x1440, 144Hz, Gsync. Ultra preset with SMAA (T1X), 110 FOV, disabled Motion Blur and CA.

Very happy with the performance so far, I'm getting on average ~110 FPS, drops to the 90's at times in heavy action but for the most part it's been silky smooth.
 

Iced

Member
Is SMAA even working? I see no difference between it being on and having anti-aliasing disabled. Am I just not looking hard enough?
 
i7 2600 @ 3.4 (3.8 w/ Turbo Boost)
GTX 760 2GB
8 GB RAM @ 1600MHz

720p at low settings... still comes with constant framedrops. Prior to this, I've ran Garden Warfare 2 and Fallout 4 at 1080p 60fps on a mix of medium to high settings. Is it weird for me to feel like this game isn't optimized to its fullest? I'm not trying to max out visuals or anything, and I don't feel like this card should be falling behind like this, especially not this soon, and especially if the PS4 is handling it fine. Yeah, a console can push out a bit more performance than a PC can for obvious reasons, but even then, my parts aren't exactly weaker compared to the hardware there.

The strange part is, the performance squeezed out of running it at 720p on low is insignificant. Yeah, the framerate is a bit more stable, but I still get hits to around 30fps, which is basically the lowest I was getting at 1080p medium. Honestly, I can deal with a lower resolution granted the frames are better, but being unable to hit a consistent 60fps at 720p low settings? I just feel like they didn't even try optimizing for older cards. I feel I should be able to hit that, at least.

I'm pretty disappointed. This card has been able to handle recent stuff like Rise of the Tomb Raider and Dark Souls 3 just fine based on other's accounts, so it definitely doesn't feel like it's time for an upgrade. I'm regretting my purchase, but not much I can do now. I might wait for the inevitable Vulkan support and hope that it helps out before I play again, but I'm doubting it'll do more than make 720p playable. That can only do so much, right?

Well, you are below the minimum system requirements. It requires at least a 670, and a 760 is quite a bit weaker than a 670. If you bought it on Steam you can just get a refund.
 

Smokey

Member
Are you downsampling and capping in RTSS or using Vsync?

Try 2 things out (idtech is fickle with detecting hz and with frame capping in strange ways):
1. Turn off the framerate cap in RTSS (set to 0).
if that does not work
2. Stop down sampling
3. Try NV vsync instead of ingame

idtech 5 had some strange behaviour with downsampling where limiting the game to 60 fps while downsampling would make it run @ 30 for a reason I truly do not understand.


It could be using tons of draw call for XXX reason. But for example, if I turn around and look at a similarly geometrically complex area but with far less discrete objects, it shooots up to 120hz again. Different renderers have diff draw calls for different things (material layering for example can be draw call heavy, etc.).

I got it to work eventually. Weird.

Just finished the first level. Game looks goooood.

I don't think I dropped below 90 fps. Ultra + Nightmare settings.

4930k @ 4.3ghz
16GB RAM
Titan X
RoG Swift
W10
Latest Nvidia Drivers
 
God bless gsync. Framerate fluctuating between 50-75 FPS and I can't even feel it, just smooth the whole time.

Everything except the Nightmare stuff maxed since it won't lemme enable it with a 4gb video card
2560x1440
GTX 980
6700K
32GB RAM
 
Saw on Twitter that Tiago Sousa mentioned they had considered with the Cinematic rendering mode to cap the frame rate to 24fps as a joke but it just looked too shit :lol
 

gstaff

Member
Quite strange that they haven't fixed this from beta but if it's anything like it was there - just sit through it for the first time and next time it'll play normally.

Make sure you're on the the updated drivers.

Also, if it does happen (on older drivers), it should only happen the first time.

AMD: 16.5.2 - Download the latest AMD drivers here LINK.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/downloa

We also have three new versions of NVIDIA drivers

 

K' Dash

Member
Guys, I need help, I can't get a locked 60fps to save my life, I tried even low settings and the game still drags to 30fps constantly, is there something wrong with my rig?

i5 2500K OC'd to 4.2GHz
GTX 780 factory OC'd to 1070mhz
16GB RAM
Intalled on a 128GB Crucial SSD
 

Bl@de

Member
Guys, I need help, I can't get a locked 60fps to save my life, I tried even low settings and the game still drags to 30fps constantly, is there something wrong with my rig?

i5 2500K OC'd to 4.2GHz
GTX 780 factory OC'd to 1070mhz
16GB RAM
Intalled on a 128GB Crucial SSD

Yes. Kepler. From what I see everyone with 7XX cards has terrible performance (even on lowest settings with a 780 ti). Could be a driver issue, Nvidia pretty much dropped Kepler support anyway :(
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Cranking a few of those settings up to Nightmare has dropped my frames a little bit, but not too much. The rare very specific vista brings me near spot on 60fps, and I've seen the extremely rare dip to like 59fps. But generally it's 70 - 90 throughout.
 

Arkanius

Member
Cranking a few of those settings up to Nightmare has dropped my frames a little bit, but not too much. The rare very specific vista brings me near spot on 60fps, and I've seen the extremely rare dip to like 59fps. But generally it's 70 - 90 throughout.

With Gsync I don't even notice those drops to 50 which are like, one second at most.

Everyone, what do the other render modes do ? (At work, can't test)
 

K' Dash

Member
Yes. Kepler. From what I see everyone with 7XX cards has terrible performance (even on lowest settings with a 780 ti). Could be a driver issue, Nvidia pretty much dropped Kepler support anyway :(

I knew I should have waited for the 1070 to buy this, disappointing.
 
Guys, I need help, I can't get a locked 60fps to save my life, I tried even low settings and the game still drags to 30fps constantly, is there something wrong with my rig?

i5 2500K OC'd to 4.2GHz
GTX 780 factory OC'd to 1070mhz
16GB RAM
Intalled on a 128GB Crucial SSD

I've had this too, after dying or loading a new level. Turning off Adaptive Vsync seemed to work. (Vsync On also works)

Yes. Kepler. From what I see everyone with 7XX cards has terrible performance (even on lowest settings with a 780 ti). Could be a driver issue, Nvidia pretty much dropped Kepler support anyway :(

I'm playing on Ultra with a pretty good 60 on a 780TI.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
With Gsync I don't even notice those drops to 50 which are like, one second at most.

Yeah exactly. Honestly this game is really showing off g-sync and high end hardware. My framerate can basically dance between 59 - 110 fps, all over the place, maxed out and looking really gorgeous, and feels like butter to play with not a single torn frame.
 

kinggroin

Banned
Any impressions from fx8350 users?

8350@4.2ghz + GTX970

Foundry area ran like dog shit. Walking through smoke would slow the game down (like an old school 16-but game), after that however, it's been mostly locked 60fps.

Ultra settings, no AA, 1080p
 

K' Dash

Member
I've had this too, after dying or loading a new level. Turning off Adaptive Vsync seemed to work. (Vsync On also works)



I'm playing on Ultra with a pretty good 60 on a 780TI.

Tried that and still fucked, I'm downloading the latest driver to see if that works.
 

TheTrain

Member
Weird bug, if you use any DSR resolution and then return back to the native resolution the game doesn't go beyond 60Hz/FPS., like it's hardlocked or something similar. To return to the 144Hz you need to reload the game, I haven't tried to reload only the level but probably it's enough
 

Zeth

Member
i5-2500K @ 4.2GHz, 16GB DDR3-1866, 980 Ti
2560x1440, 144Hz, Gsync. Ultra preset with SMAA (TX1), Motion Blur and CA disabled.

Very happy with the performance so far, I'm getting on average ~110 FPS, think I saw it drop to the low 90's a couple of times in heavy action but for the most part it's been silky smooth.

Sounds great - latest drivers by any chance? Think I should probably update as I haven't since dark souls 3.
 
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