Zoloft Sonic
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ITT: The beloved 'Nintendo Tax'. Paying full price for nerfed versions of old games that can be had for 20 bucks. Then folks twist themselves into pretzels to convince themselves they're getting a deal.
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DOOM for Nintendo Switch, First Direct-Feed Screenshots
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What the hell is this post?
kitchenmotors
Banned
ITT: Doom fans looking forward to a portable version of one of the best shooters and games of this gen.
PdotMichael
Banned
Switch uses tablet hardware. There isn't really a discussion to have from a technical point.
MetalliCabombination
Member
I seriously hope apple/samsung is not the precedent they follow at all.
Phones are far more diverse and evolve with far less function critical features per year.
This is more akin to newer phones supporting newer network bands every 2 years
games arent some secondary thing on the switch that id be okay losing out on had my old iphone not been capable of running newer iphone games.
brochiller
Member
Why do people think that just because games are a year old on other systems and cheaper they should automatically be cheaper when a new version is made?
Was it free to develop this new version?
Do people not understand how companies like to make money?
Are you being forced to buy this at launch for Switch and not wait for a similar price in Switch in a year as the other versions?
Dark-Cloudz
Member
I'm not saying you're wrong. From a graphical standpoint, objectively, the game looks worse and is coming out a year and a bit later than the other versions, but the whole Nintendo Tax thing is definitely different now that the system is an SoC running on ARM portable hardware.
If you look at it that way there is a big difference between this and the shitty Mass effect/Arkham Asylum support the Wii U got, so I'd argue that this is progress for sure.
……forgetit
Member
No 3DS successor is coming, from a purely engineering perspective it wouldn't make sense.
What you're referencing is the same PR spin they gave the DS, and out if the Switcu ended up bombing.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Yeah I don't agree with this at all.
If a game is exclusive to one system or another because they chose to do that then thats their problem. Like nobody forced Tomb Raider to be locked up to one system for a year. Then when the game is regularly $30 or less on one system don't be surprised when people aren't going to pay full retail price for the game a full year later.
Not quite the same thing with Switch obviously because its a new platform but personally have little interest in these late ports because I've already played them elsewhere and yeah, because they're cheaper on other systems I already own.
Lol why is this the first post I see upon entering the topic? Your mind must have been twisting itself to make this post, Lmao.
It's a portable version of one of the best games ever, and it looks and plays great according to every game journalist who went hands-on with it at Bethesda's media event.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Yeah, but a lot of people see value in portability and the cartridges that come with it. PC players have been dealing with this for over a decade. Just because i can buy it for 7 bucks on one platform doesn't eliminate the value of another platform.
bobbychalkers
Member
Not really,its actually pretty goofy in how over the top things are.
UncleSporky
Member
Wait this is weird to me. The article is dated September 21, like two weeks ago. Did everyone just miss these when they were first released?
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
You're litterally a machine of death on legs. It's the demons that should be afraid of you.
Btw, those screenshots seem to have a lot of chromatic aberration, which i saw it can be disabled in the switch video options. I would be curious to see it without, it's always one of the first option i uncheck in every PC games.
fabricated backlash
Member
For the poor demons, it sure as hell is.
Baraka Obama
Banned
It runs on a tegra GPU so it is a portable machine and that's not an excuse it's a fact.
Vampirolol
Member
Their favorite logo on the console.
Thanks for the correction, I assumed that as an Nvidia product that had such great compatability with basically all current development tools that it had to be x86.
I suspect the further down the life of the Switch we get the more it becomes apparent that this is Nintendo's best overall hardware product of at least the last several decades, if not of all time. It's competitive tech relative to form factor, it doesn't restrict developers with archaic or abstract design, and it doesn't have any random high dollar features that distract from a very appealing concept.
These later ports aren't going to disappear after the first month or something. Sure, I've played DOOM on my PS4 but if this is available for say, $20 sometime next year I might decide to grab it. Same with Skyrim (though I'd probably splurge and pay $30 there as I went through it pre-DLC).
These games aren't going to be $50-$60 for all time. They'll launch at an MSRP likely intended for those who are either huge fans of the game or who haven't had the opportunity to play it elsewhere, then rapidly head down to roughly the same value pricing as the other versions in an attempt to maximize sales.
I like how there was no real prompt for this post. Dude just jumps in ready to be obnoxious for no real reason
Yep. Nothing more to add, i wouldn't bother by the negative comments, they always come from the same people. I played this game on PC with all the settings at maximum and can't wait to play this game again at the lunch time, it looks great.
AquaWateria
Member
I am glad that I'm not a graphics snob because it looks good to me.
Yeah these are Bethesda games, being helped with Nintendo publishing, so maybe add another month to the usual Bethesda 60days to price drop.
There is nothing here to force early adopters if they don't want to. I fully expect to be able to buy both of these games for sub $30 at retail by or after Christmas.
plagiarize
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fabricated backlash
Member
It probably sounded very clever in his brain as well.
sixteen-bit
Member
Hopefully you can turn off the chromatic aberration
To think.. we went from this:
to this:
This is a handheld generational leap? at least 2 handheld generations... PEople are crazy if they are not impressed! this is a HANDHELD GAME!
All thanks to mobile market, not handheld
Nvidia failed at mobile and Tegra since 4 never went to any phone. Even Tegra 3 was more of a tablet chip :O .
pretty done
Member
Well yea, it's gonna look bad docked.
For the little tablet screen though it will look pretty good.
LordOcidax
Member
Amazing, the Switch keep delivering.
AquaWateria
Member
Any thread about graphics turn into this or most of them.
3DS used mobile chips too. We have to go back to PSP in 2004 to find a handheld that didnt exclusively.
JershJopstin
Banned
That's actually why it's not x86. Very few companies have a license for it, an Nvidia is not one.
Well, that, and ARM was better for the product they were designing anyway.
Haha, you jest, but seriously speaking; With all the incredible feats we've seen Nintendo achieve on very limited hardware, I'm sure their choice of no/minor AA solution is purely...umm...choice! Most Nintendo games run at 60fps w/v-sync(and usually a 'set' resolution)... limited/no AA is more of a convenient way to direct that performance to areas that matter more to their games, than it is incompetence.
PdotMichael
Banned
Comparing 3DS and Switch is always misleading because of the different form factors of the two devices.
Also the fact that companies like Nintendo can now take advantage of the gigantic mobile market.
Also the fact that companies like Nintendo can now take advantage of the gigantic mobile market.
Honestly the form factor is the biggest reason why I just don't take Switch anywhere unless it's a longer-term trip. Putting it in anything without a case just feels reckless, and even if I had a case the thing takes up far more space and runs out of battery much quicker than my 3DS (be it the old XL or the new one) or Vita.
PdotMichael
Banned
Tegra X1 is a mobile variant of the common Nvidia Maxwell architecture. Not sure what kind of secret sauce there is supposed to be left. Porting games shouldn't leave "unused" computing power especially not if we are talking about id Software
Vita had hardware that was used in the most popular mobile phones in the world but exclusives still look and perform better than ports.
Vita ran a bunch of PS2 games subnatively for christ sake.
Doom isn't being ported by id.